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post Jan 24 2014, 09:35 AM

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More evidence of Christ Jesus, 1500 years old Mosaic discovered.

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http://news.yahoo.com/ancient-church-mosai...-160232405.html

Archaeologists in Israel have uncovered intricate mosaics on the floor of a 1,500-year-old Byzantine church, including one that bears a Christogram surrounded by birds.

Just off the courtyard, in the church's narthex, or lobby area, there is "a fine mosaic floor decorated with colored geometric designs" as well as a "twelve-row dedicatory inscription in Greek containing the names 'Mary' and 'Jesus', and the name of the person who funded the mosaic's construction," Varga said in a statement.
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 24 2014, 01:23 PM)
Yes, when you do this, it means you must submit to his will.

Meaning whatever ambitions you got..like wanna be a doctor, want to marry a beautiful wife, want to have kids, want to drive a nice car...all this worldly stuff...you submit to his will..and you may not get it.

Its either this, god will bless u...but on the bigger things you want (which reflects your own self preserverance) (I am sure you got)...he may either grant you in later life or not at all.

Example, when Abraham and Sarai, was so eager to have their own offspring, took so long until Sarai was pregnant with Isaac at age 80 ! Impossible at today's feat. This is while Abraham see his neighbors can get pregnant at 30, if his faith wasn't strong, he would have grind his teeth and said why I get child at 80? But my friend here get child at 30?

Yes, I even know of a youth pastor, his faith is strong, he found the woman he like. Alas, he married late, he badly wanted a child, but due to their late age, they were unable to conceive.

Or a pastor who graduated as an engineer from local uni, but he took the path of pastoralship instead. 20 years later, he is driving a protong, he saw his classmate driving a mercedes, though he no regrets..the pastor almost fell into temptation of disatisfaction.

Yes I also know that on paper, if we really truly believe in god, all this worldly stuff doesn't really matter, doesn't it? We die, we bury six feet deep, cremate or what...we just rot and go back to the ground, dust to dust..ashes to ashes...even the rich, the powerful, kings and queens, all will be same level when we all die...six feet below.

We can't take our material possessions with us to the afterlife. Its our life in earth, how we live for christ is judged..is what counts.

But..you don't tell me, not for a sec...you don't winch...or tempted to lift up your fist in the air...and say something you not happy to god? Even though you submit your every will to god's will?

Fren, its not easy as ABC to say "by God's grace, I don't worry anymore".

What you say is very true...but the enemy is watching and he will definitely test you. By all means you will overcome (but there are cases some didn't), but you will know and come to understand how i feel when you do.
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Knowing on paper is one thing, daring to live out what you believe on paper is another thing right? smile.gif


Faith.
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 25 2014, 10:41 AM)
Those who dare to live on right thing usually gets persecuted in their own church. Thats the crap thing about it. We are suppose to get persecuted by outsiders not from our very own, or so called own.

You see, the people who rise up fast in church are those who back stab other people, polish shoe to get their spots up there. Even everyday they know too well, that all this are just worldly posessions.

You think its easy, you just tell yourself to focus on god. But i tell you your ministry will face challenges especially from within.

Just yesterday, my fren from that stinking tmn B church, told me, he got a phone call from the pastor...asking him to come for some activities. He was thinking, why suddenly the big time pastor is calling him? The youth have 12 gutless spinless leaders and on top of that they have a big head rich man son leading them. Why none of them are calling him? They are not empowered meh? Useless..

THen he rememberd posting some small jokes at the church watsapp...he didn't get too good response on it, he told me the joke, i thought the church was a bit too serious about it. Maybe some arseholeee church member filed a complain to the pastor, thats why the pastor has been pestering him to go to certain activities.

Just like what Eduardo Saverin receive a phone call from his buddy Zuckerberg to come back to office...just to receive the bad news, that his shares are being diluted to 0.06% (The Social Network).

Of course, nothing of that sort, my friend doesn't work for that stinking church, so what can they do to him? He knows the only weapon they can apply is the weapon of snub and gutter politics. So what for attend their meetings? I tell him to go elsewhere la, don't be stuck at this forsaken POS church.

So trivial matter, the church also wanna take action.
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I see you understand some basics of Christianity but you don't subscribe to the deeper side of it.

Have you read Ephesians 6:12 and do you understand what it means?


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post Jan 25 2014, 11:59 PM

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skydrake

I found this song, very encouraging and soothing.
Share with you.
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post Jan 27 2014, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jan 26 2014, 03:50 PM)
How could Allah have a Son?
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to demonstrate an understanding how God loves us.
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post Jan 27 2014, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 26 2014, 05:54 PM)
What is this? This is not a challenge for grades on who is better at christian knowledge/theology.

You still don't get my point.

My point is not to ignore the politics that goes on at the church. One has got to challenge it and fight the system. Some leaders are using certain verses like "submissioN" and "focus on god" for their own selfish agendas.
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No it's not a challenge.
But if you have intention to be a really a disciple of Christ you must have proper understanding of Ephesians 6:12.
It has to do with fighting but not in the sense of what you think fighting is.

Otherwise you'll live your life disgruntled with people all the time.
You will have no peace in your life.

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post Jan 27 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(skydrake @ Jan 27 2014, 11:05 AM)
*Streaming now...*
Glad u still remember I love these type of songs smile.gif

Btw bro, I'm leaving Malaysia on end of February. Going out to Honiara, Solomon Island for work/businesses opportunity purpose and only will be back to Malaysia every 6 month. Be frank, I never plan of this before.. It just came out of sudden. My brother in law had offer me this opportunity and this opportunity had free up my time & helps up my financial crisis. I'm no longer a guy who work day & night to get my living $ in Kuala Lumpur.

I will have plenty of time to self upgrade myself and learn more bible knowledge. And I had found that Honiara, Solomon Island religion are base on Christian too.  rclxms.gif

Btw, do you have facebook? if you do, please add me by searching skydrakex@gmail.com because this is the fastest way to keep in touch with me by facebook messenger or email me. Or else, we only could message thru LYN inbox.

Lucky too this place have internet lines.  thumbup.gif
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Yup Honiara is predominantly Christian nation.

I will pray for your success. Looks like God is moving you to better place.

you can keep in touch with me here.

my facebook, i never update. laugh.gif


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post Jan 29 2014, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(jimineycric @ Jan 29 2014, 12:57 AM)
Question:
Somebody raised a question about dinosaur fossils found on earth in our church gathering.
Have u guys ever had such question thrown your way? If yes, how do u answer to that?
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If you take the time to read the Bible,

you'll find the answer in Genesis 1 itself.

Genesis 1:21 covers it.
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post Jan 29 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 28 2014, 01:26 PM)
Sometimes we have to defend ourselves.

Z100 will be cringing in anger reading this...but its no slander, its real life.

I recall being part of a cg...the cg leader always get angry and say bad thing behind member's back.

Got one of my fren, he had to miss a few meetings to prepare for his examination. This cg leader ah go and say the cg member not commital enough la, say he not believing enuf la...

Then when he came back from his exam, the cg leader tell us to ignore him for the whole duration of the meeting..punishment for him going missing for 3 cg meeting.

Apa ini? I was just a college student then, it really crush our hearts man to see the cg leader who is grown man going around bully his young cg members..

we should have stood up, and voice up our disagreement.
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If you don't practice the biblical principal outlined by the Holy Spirit, you'll be fighting people your whole life.

It's really your choice.

you fight or let God fight for you.

Who is stronger? smile.gif
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post Jan 29 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(jimineycric @ Jan 29 2014, 11:55 AM)
Dinosaurs existed million of years ago and were extinct million years ago (fact and proven) but the bible (Genesis 1:21) states...
God created "great sea monsters" on the fifth day.1 The Hebrew word tannîyn, can have several meanings, including "dragon," "serpent," "sea monster," or "venomous snake."

Assuming great sea monsters are the aquatic dinosaurs (cryptoclidus, brachauchenius, elasmosaurus)

Well, this is very conflicting with the scientific evidence we have today by the paleontologist. Fact is, humans never co-existed with dinosaurs. So................................
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you may want to read this.

https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent....=9&article=2416

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent....=9&article=1493

and there are 2 world views; still very much discussed.


YEC and OEC.

pehkay may have better insight.
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post Jan 30 2014, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(jimineycric @ Jan 29 2014, 11:10 PM)
So do we just assume it happened before the Adamic world? What evidence do we have that the earth was covered under deep water?
Even if all of Artic and Antartic ice melts, it still wouldn't cover the whole entire earth. Don't forget Mount Everest is 29,029 ft above sea level and assuming we are in the time when bible was written like uh.... >2000 yrs ago?? And >2000 yrs ago or so.. Everest still peaked at above 29,000 ft. It would take A WHOLE LOT of water to cover the earth.
So uhmm... where did all the water go?

I've read the apologetics press... it simply does not prove that humans once lived with dinosaurs. Period. The truth is, I find it scientifically flawed.
If humans once lived alongside dinosaurs, we would have discovered AT LEAST a tiny fraction of Homo-habilis civilization or artifacts of human existence with dinosaurs. To this day.. there is none. Homo-habilis was the first of the "great Ape" type creatures to lived on earth 2 million years ago. Longgggggg after dinosaurs were extinct....
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Well, Keep on searching then. biggrin.gif


My advise is don't conclude anything yet.
Science data is always changing as time goes.

Isn't Homo-habilis an Animal?

I don't see how that is related.

Because if I guess it right, you're trying to force through from Scientific POV, eliminating any possibility that God existed and that Evolution is right, debunking the Bible in the process.

With that kind of objective in mind, I see it's kinda pointless to have discussion even.
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post Feb 7 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(jimineycric @ Jan 30 2014, 10:33 PM)
Yes, we can change theories as new answers/scientific proofs are being discovered through science. No doubt about that. That's how it should be.. That's how we separate truth/facts from myths/lies.
I think there is some flaws in the bible. People should learn to accept that. I'm not saying everything in the bible is flawed. Just certain context of it..
I would love to be proven wrong. I really do...

Btw, homo-habilis is an extinct species of humans ancestor of modern humans and the earliest hominid to make tools. This species existed between 1.5 and 2.0 million years ago.

Of course evolution is right, all u need to do is take a look in the mirror.. smile.gif
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A lot of people "think" the bible is flawed because they expect it to be something that it's not or they have a flaw understanding of it.

I vouch the later to be more true from my experiences of people.

I see myself everyday and I'm far more convinced that I'm a creation, created in God's own image rather than a product of chance which makes no sense at all.



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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 31 2014, 10:33 AM)
So u just sit there and keep quiet? That is your idea of you allowing God to fight for you?

That is not an act of faith. Faith need works to put it into practice.

I give u a story of a man who lost his oars in while he was rowing his boat. So he let his faith save him, his boat move by the flow of the current. It pass by another fisherman's boat, "he ask the man, i'll pass my rope to you and then you pull your boat to my boat and "I'll tie our boats together". But the stupid man say, I have faith in god, he will guide me out of the torrents. Then his boat pass by, he saw a kid by the shoreline. The kid shouted out to him that he will call the rescue services to send a helicopter to rescue him. But the man refused, he say, by my faith god will pull me out of this. Then his boat reached a big waterfall, it fell, he drowned.

For me, whenever i face politics at church, I will stand up and shout injustice. I haven't said anything yet at that tmn bilon church, but i will say my peace soon. There is some discrimnation there, i don't like it. There are some young leaders who think they are the crem de la crem. Got one fat lady there, she even laugh at a mentally challenged youth there. She as a leader, discriminate other members, when she doesn't look at herself in the mirror (her biceps are as big as my head). I am gonna speak up.
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That's because you don't believe God will fight for you, that's why you need to resort doing thing on your own, base on what you know best which may aggravate the situation further.

But I do and God is faithful to my prayers. smile.gif

and I'm here to tell you, He will answer you too, if you have faith.

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 6 2014, 07:35 PM)
Some basic talk

With everyone claiming their religion is the one and true one (or the other extreme, all roads lead to Rome)...

What is the most definitive proof that Jesus is the real God and no one else?
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 7 2014, 04:41 PM)
Oooooooooo this is the first time I've hear this kind of explanation on youtube.

Does he have a more extensive analysis on this subject floating somerwhere, or this is the only section?
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He has lots of intellectual sermons, about 45- 1 hour.

you can start with this one. smile.gif


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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 7 2014, 07:09 PM)
Many have attributed God to be the ultimate abuser, because He said 'I'(As almighty god himself) am the only way, any no other.

Another example is the Tree of Knowledge. Why put such a catastrophic tree, tell humans not to eat it, when He knows humans will disobey.

It's like setting up the existence of humans to just be thrown to hell.

I find it very difficult to accept this corundum too. I am bitter inside as I see so many are born with a destiny to Hell.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 8 2014, 04:54 PM)
If I get it right, the world is created based on the most possibility of love?

There's then another question peoplpe ask me. Or actually punched in the face figuratively speaking.

'Why should I follow a god that forces me to love him? It's either love god, or thrown to hell. What kind of choice is this? Isn't the threat of eternal punishment the same as forcing someone into submission?'
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Nobody can love God unless they know & understand what God has done for them.

We are here to proclaim that good news.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 11 2014, 03:20 PM)
Their understanding is blocked off from Satan.  Only God can lift off that blockage. In the end it's all down to their fate isn't it? sad.gif
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not really, I believe everyone will have a chance to hear the gospel, pending children and people born under abnormal circumstances.


Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.



edit: and those we know in need of Salvation, our duty is to pray for that blockage to be opened in the name of our God.

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 11 2014, 04:43 PM)
It kind of clashes with predestination as I understand it. But then again, my cousin's husband describes predestination as something like this

'I'm born a human, in the image of God. So it's my predestiny to know God"

Something like that.
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God wants everyone to be reconciled back to him.

That is not predestination but his will, what God wants.

It has nothing to with fate or pre-destination.
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QUOTE(11c @ Feb 11 2014, 04:55 PM)
God is ever present but I am weak,

What is His plan for me?

I'm struggling in my work and life...  cry.gif
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Believe & Trust & Rest.

Stop worrying.

Let go of the world's way.

Let God prosper you all every way.










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