yes I understand now, walking in the path now..

The bacteria infection had failed to infect further in my body before I complete my "Antibiotic Session". I'm completely healed. Only Lord can do this, praise lord. Amen~ 

Thank you brother unknown warrior for passing me this message.

Few days ago I watched this movie "Life of PI", very nice movie all I can say. Just like to share with u all.


Sorry I don't know how to share youtube, anyone can teach me?
Youtube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Hjrs6WQ8M

Beautiful song indeed, loved it.    Has been awhile I never posted on Christian Fellowship thread, just finished reading all 6 pages lol 

Yes I did learn some thanks to you guys.

I had not been active in my christian life since after my SPM ends (now in college), I only seek to God when I'm feels troubled, sad or any negativity is in me, and have not learned bible verses that moment, only read some other christian books to help me with my faith in Him.

Actually am feeling a little down, due to stress with people around me and my studies result, and I have no solution for this except to speak out with them. I was just wandering around in the forum and bumped into this thread, so I try to get some bible verses to enlighten myself. 

i watch this movie unplanned, i was just walking ard setiawalk puchong n have my dinner, out of sudden my wife said wan to watch movie n we saw the new tgv banner hanging on the big wall so we walk in n see see.

this is the only movie we can watch at that time without waiting for long. we tot that we bought a tamil movie when the movie started to intro with all india artists name..

I think its dangerous when one is ill (and with medical valid reasons i.e namely Genetically determined diseases, Infectious Diseases, Heart Diseases, DM), one could think it can go away by praying to God as this sharing said. It ONLY applies to extraordinarily cases where medical interventions or explanations could not deal with the specific disease, or above all sorts, causes deterioration of health where no medicine can do, then God's intervention through fervent prayer hope faith can heal.

Because many things science can explain (namely how your blood vessels are clot with fats and cholesterol for example), and as far as science goes, it complements religion, does not overstep religion. Through illnesses sometimes we can see God's grace work through (weakness made perfect in God's strength) and one definitely has to take medicine for if not it will progress further worsens.

I myself gonna be graduate to be a doc in 1.5 years, and while I am a Christian, I would treat the patient as well as pray for them, but certainly prayer alone does not do when medically, can be sought out (ancient shaman healing?).

As for cases of Infectious Diseases, by assuming you recover (and of course, with prayers) due to Convalescence Period actually is not right. One still has to finish his antibiotic course or else microbes do not get killed entirely and you can be unknowingly a transient/healthy/immunised/convalescent carrier which spread diseases to immunosuppressed people (HIV, Pregnancy, DM, elderly and children amongst). Many microbes which causes latent infection on us (without clinical symptoms that is) might not do the same to others.

We have a body, and Christ bought it over, and we too, have a responsibility to take good care of our bodies. my 2 cents

btw sry to pull down some sad story in cnn that just happened within 48hours, wana ask u all.. how do u all feel after seeing this below.

Devil pushing year end sales quota. especially with the 21st December 2012 mayan calender. 

I have explained my part, dear bro. I believe we complement each other for what we believe, not contradict.

To put it in proper:

CCC - YOUCAT by Pope Benedict XVI

I think its dangerous when one is ill (and with medical valid reasons i.e namely Genetically determined diseases, Infectious Diseases, Heart Diseases, DM), one could think it can go away by praying to God as this sharing said. It ONLY applies to extraordinarily cases where medical interventions or explanations could not deal with the specific disease, or above all sorts, causes deterioration of health where no medicine can do, then God's intervention through fervent prayer hope faith can heal.

As for cases of Infectious Diseases, by assuming you recover (and of course, with prayers) due to Convalescence Period actually is not right.

Mayan is another god among god
i play games i know it little. it a long ago the people mayan praygod  it, but i dunno bout how the look like. most that time all are predict and research on natural environment

my question here may offend u all, maybe not i dunno

i saw alot horror movie about exorcist ghost or emily exorcist, 666  demon, and many

is it all really exist before? emily story i read article and it say that girl was possessed by many demon. why the gof not helping her and let her suffer till she died

eh unable to understand it

fallen angels is satan right? a god who harm jesus and throw in the deep of hell
demon is animal human form

last sentence "sin"
emily is a good girl and why she must suffer this all during young time. she possessed by demon from hell.

i mean jesus assistant throw satan in deep of hell not satan throw jesus
some demon use a fake light and fake advise to guide everyone too. ( read on novel and film)
the part i bold i understand, we human need to believe god and pray them and should not reject own god.

Bro disregard my following sentence bro

Say that you have parents who have hypertension or heart diseases, supposedly when you age around 50-60 yr old generally you have AHT or HEart Diseases as it is of our diet, and our genetic flaws.

Pray to God alone would not solve your problem or make the fat go away.

Ignorance of one's health is not bliss dear bro. I am not saying contradicting things from the Bible, but taking care of your health is more than just praying, but also to observe diet.

So would you tell the doctor: Doc I am not going to do Coronary stenting. I believe by praying to God alone my arteries will be unblocked.

Instead, you pray to God that operation would go successfully and you can lead a better life to serve His will.

while NOTHING is greater than GOD, that I agree, there are some part, that we have to make. God plan the rest, we do our best. Even though this is not biblical but we always agree that 'Thy Will Be Done'

In this case, your life depends on God. But you make your best to care for it too.

This has nothing to do with my faith or spirituality. I am saying this as a concerning Doctor that would, for a patient.

Negative. if this is true, why the Illuminatis? RCC err that time, refusing to accept Science that serves creation. So the Pope now is right. and if this is true, Why so many denominations allow abortion, contraception etc etc? It contradicts what you just said

din know this group exist! HI GUYS!

Instead, you pray to God that operation would go successfully and you can lead a better life to serve His will.

while NOTHING is greater than GOD, that I agree, there are some part, that we have to make. God plan the rest, we do our best. Even though this is not biblical but we always agree that 'Thy Will Be Done'

This is what I believe: Diseases and illness are consequences of our sin, besides spiritual death. We men are corrupt by that very 'nature' you mentioned. And Yes, we are no longer subject o the law and effects of it, but nature takes its course too.

Take away all sin and selfishness and you would have heaven on earth. Even the remaining physical evils would no longer rankle and embitter us. I agree with Bro too

Saints endure and even embrace suffering and death as lovers embrace heroic challenges. But they do not embrace sin. They include us, Saints on earth, which I agree with Bro too.

Law and effect?
Furthermore, the cause of physical evil is spiritual evil. The cause of suffering is sin.

The Cross is God's part of the practical solution to evil. Our part, according to the same Gospel, is to repent, to believe, and to work with God in fighting evil by the power of love.
That is why Jesus said: “Take up your cross and follow Me” (Matthew 16:24; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23)
I am saying I have more faith in Healing from God, that I agree with Brother's sharing but I am also saying it is dangerous to just solely believe in ousting the disease that science, which serves Creation, ought to cure and it cannot be applied LITERALLY to all cases (if that happens, the world would now be the New Heaven on Earth, but fact is, it is not. The world now that God created IS GOOD - Genesis, but not ULTIMATELY GOOD). Therefore exists extraordinary cases where terminal illnesses are healed which I dont deny, but Praise be to God, but also exists cases where we inch along with fervent prayers to help us live through suffering while continue to fight with the disease or control it - Our Suffering.

Suffering can work for the greater good of wisdom. It is not true that all things are good, but it is true that "all things work together for good to those who love God.

He may not yet wipe tears away, but He makes them His.

It is Christ's invitation to us to follow him.
Christ goes to the cross, and we are invited to follow to the same cross.
Not because it is the cross, but because it is his.
Suffering is blessed not because it is suffering but because it is his.
Suffering is not the context that explains the cross; the cross is the context that explains suffering.

The key to the mystery of strength made perfect in weakness is the cross of Christ.

“My son, do not forget my teaching, but keep my commands in your heart, for they will prolong your life many years and bring you prosperity . . . This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones”
(Proverbs 3:1-2, 8)

“I pray that you may enjoy good health and that all may go well with you, even as your soul is getting along well” (3 John 1:2)

Obviously, God is more interested in our spiritual health than our physical well-being, but He does want us to be physically healthy as well. On the other hand, disease is a result of Adam’s sin, and even the most righteous may suffer. After all, Job was righteous, but God allowed him to suffer disease and hardship.
Therefore as a Dr in the future, Besides prescribing treatment, I would take to it personally to care for my patients and bring joy to them, as well as prayers with their intentions on my mind.
and I look forward to your devotion when you have time.