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changhao
post Dec 3 2006, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Dec 3 2006, 01:59 AM)

EDIT: Keelly Modded Boss ds-1 seems very popular at overseas...but never heard somebody owning(maybe) or selling it so far....can find it in Malaysia?
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The closest is Guitar77 in Singapore and they're selling it at SG$249 each. Have to make bookings though, cos' apparently they sell out fast! Next shipment's coming probably around March, that's what the guy told me when I asked them the week before. Otherwise, maybe can order directly from http://www.robertkeeley.com.
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post Dec 3 2006, 12:35 PM

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i have seen many setups not using any distortion pedal at all... is it because the amp already produce sufficient distorted sound through overdrive?

or should a distortion pedal like... err... Metal-Zone a must for playing metal riffs?
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post Dec 3 2006, 12:54 PM

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but as i told by few forummers, MetalZone is not necessary actually. If your amp had a distortion channel, just get a booster pedal like Boss DS-1, toooo high gain is really paining the head......
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post Dec 3 2006, 01:02 PM

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What you DON'T see, is their racks and racks of effects hidden backstage.

But yes. There are guitarists who doesn't use a distortion pedal in front of their amps. Most amp heads are already powerful enough as it is.....
Take for example Alexi Laiho.... He just passes his signal through a Lee Jackson Perfect Connection Tube Pre-Amp (sometimes uses a Sansamp Preamp), which is then passed to a RSP Hush system (to boost his low end) and splits it into stereo using Rocktron Intellifex system, and then into a VHT Two/Fifty/Two Power amp.


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post Dec 3 2006, 02:56 PM

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It's not a necessity, but sometime you just need them.
Many of us doesn't lug around our precious amps... laugh.gif

Guitarer : MetalZone or DS-1 are the usual choice I guess.
Basser : Pre-amp, Overdrive and Chorus. But usually, you won't find the need to use these pedals.

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post Dec 3 2006, 03:01 PM

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to me, always found the Metal Zone pedal to be a Noob metal guitarist pedal. When they first plug it in, they think "this is the heaviest thing ever!"
But once they start properly playing..... they'll find the gain like... "Gaaaaaahhhhh!!! Turn it down!"

Would definitely recommend the DS-1 if you want better gain....... or the SD-1 to just dirty your sound.

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post Dec 3 2006, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Dec 3 2006, 03:01 PM)
to me, always found the Metal Zone pedal to be a Noob metal guitarist pedal. When they first plug it in, they think "this is the heaviest thing ever!"
But once they start properly playing..... they'll find the gain like... "Gaaaaaahhhhh!!! Turn it down!"

Would definitely recommend the DS-1 if you want better gain....... or the SD-1 to just dirty your sound.
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I believe for some people out there, they have a quest to look for "teh heaviest shit, the heavier, the better" sound. laugh.gif

Of course, the subject of sound and tone are as subjective as beauty. laugh.gif

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post Dec 3 2006, 05:09 PM

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sampled the sounds of Digitech DF7 on Digitech's website... sounds nice. are Digitech stuffs more expensive compare to Boss?
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post Dec 3 2006, 05:26 PM

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depends..... Their individual stomp boxes are almost the same prices..... but their premium stuff such as their artist pedals or their expression factory.... VERY expensive. This is of course Bentley's prices.

I wonder if they will still have discount on their Whammy next year.....
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post Dec 6 2006, 06:26 PM

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For me, I think a guitarist should at least have a decent distortion box and a delay pedal. That should be quite sufficient to provide you with satisfactory sound under most circumstances. A chorus pedal would be good to have too for those clean sections.

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post Jan 2 2007, 03:45 AM

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hmm someone is selling me Zoom707ii for 250.. is it a bargain?
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QUOTE(supercolossal @ Dec 6 2006, 06:26 PM)
For me, I think a guitarist should at least have a decent distortion box and a delay pedal. That should be quite sufficient to provide you with satisfactory sound under most circumstances. A chorus pedal would  be good to have too for those clean sections.
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agree with what you say, but still it depends on what kind of music you're playing and what tone you're looking for...

i personally think for simple distortion, the digitech hot head and boss ds-1 is a good place to start with...(i went for the hot head though)

but for beginner, i think a distortion pedal, with the amp's built in reverb or delay will be enough for a quick start and also allow them to find the tone they want...

boss metal zone can sound nice if you know how to tweek it, as i saw one of my friend did it...he can get a lot of different sound from the mt-2 alone...
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post Jan 2 2007, 04:25 PM

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The DS1 is not a very good distortion pedal. Granted it is cheap but the tone knob has very limited usable range, the gain is not a lot for a 'distortion' pedal and the distortion voicing is overall harsh and thin.

The better distortion pedal to get is the MD2. Despite being marketed as a nu-metal pedal, it is really just a souped up DS1 with more gain, fatter (bottom knob), and more usable tone range. It is however not an easy pedal to use and not the pedal for really super high gain tight heavy stuff.

For a standard versatile distortion, the MD2 is probably the best you can buy for the money.

The MT2 is good for metal and that's about it cause no matter how you tweak the gain and the settings, it still has that annoying metal hiss to the gain but then again, it is called a metal zone for a reason. Probably the easiest pedal to get a decent metal tone, however too many pedal push the gain to the max and scooped the mids too much hence making the pedal less than stellar in a band mix. With the right settings, i.e. less gain, more mids, it can sound really heavy.

For a booster pedal, the OD3 is the best one BOSS has to offer. It is also one of the most expensive overdrive/distortion pedal by BOSS being the same price as a MT2.

It is clearly superior to the SD1 in everyway, except for the price.

The OD3 has more gain (enough for GN'R stuff), sounds a lot more fatter and warm by itself and sounds really fat when boosted (the sd1 tightens up the tone but not really fattens it by much since it cuts bass).

The SD1 by itself sounds quite thin, the gain really pathetic even for an overdrive pedal and not warm at all.

That said, for first distortion pedal that is versatile, go for the MD2.

IF your interest is only in metal and nothing else, get the MT2.

IF you have a tube amp, the OD3 is the natural choice.
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post Jan 12 2007, 04:21 PM

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for a starter.. what multifx should i buy... how much is 1 roughly..
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post Jan 12 2007, 09:11 PM

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dont forget with pedals, its the sum of all the parts taken together that creates your sound...not just one pedal.

of cos when regular ppl, those who have no nice tube amps, look for pedals, they want something that can give them nice distortion.

but for others...for example the Boss SD-1.
Zakk Wylde and Richie Sambora are just two of them who use/d it as a boost for solo work, cos they already have nice tube amps to handle the main rhythm work.
Zakk also uses a Wah as a boost, he's said that he hates all that wah wah wah sounds.

another case, this time with a fuzz face user on another forum.
he's hated it cos it was very thin sounding, guess like the Boss DS-1...until he stuck a crybaby after it...then the sound immediately fattened up even with the crybaby on bypass.

of cos if the pedal is really bad, no matter what you do it cant be helped.

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post Jan 12 2007, 10:13 PM

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That's true....... but sometimes, a sound that's perfect for someone, might be crap to others..... it's all about personal preference really.

Even if we recommend you a kick-ass MXR/Jim Dunlop pedal board, it might not sound right to you.....
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post Jan 12 2007, 11:11 PM

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i'm using marshall 15 DFX ... izzit ok?? i'm planning to buy a multi fx.. with wah and everything la.. but not so expensive.. which will you all reccomand..

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