Lenovo IdeaPad Y Series Thread v2, When Y480/580 meet Y400/500
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 Dec 21 2012, 03:02 AM
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New Y500 owner reporting in.
Just got it like 2 days ago. Btw, im planing to either replace my HDD with SSD or add a mSATA SSD. Have anyone tried mSATA SSD in their new Y500? I need some recommendation, get mSATA SSD or replace HDD with SSD. |
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Dec 21 2012, 03:11 AM
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Hmmm... since the SLI is using the ODD slot... i was thinking of using mSATA since il need huge space to install games n etc.
240GB 2.5" SSD seems nice, but way too expensive. So i thought of using mSATA instead and leave the 500GB as game storage. Anyone have tried using mSATA port? any idea of the Win8 score for it. |
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Dec 21 2012, 04:16 AM
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I see... is there any software that i can use to check whether the mSATA port available/usable in my Y500? and the types (Sata2/3).
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Dec 22 2012, 11:27 PM
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Hmmm... anyone ever used the mSATA port so far? in Y580/Y500.
I need some opinions about it. Kinda stuck in deciding about mSATA SSD and normal SSD. Since im using SLI... il need more storage on the go... |
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Dec 22 2012, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(MrSars @ Dec 22 2012, 11:27 PM) Got question : Nope. It wont, i ask the Lenovo service centre already. No worries.If i bought Y580 and i change the HD and RAM myself, will void warranty or not?  |
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Dec 24 2012, 12:17 AM
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Wanna share some findings i gain today...
LowYat... all the shop dont sell mSATA SSD... *sigh* Spend whole day... and none of them have mSATA SSD... Finaly... decided to get the standard SSD... but most shop out of 120GB... got 60GB and 250GB++ oni... I wanted to get Intel 330 SSD... that one the entire LowYat dont have... *more sigh* Came back empty ended... waste my money for the traveling and parking. Added on December 24, 2012, 12:21 am QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Dec 23 2012, 07:48 PM) If international warranty then should be okay but for the warranty extension I don't think you cannot do it locally. Alternatively, you can extend the warranty online via the Lenovo US webpage... Hmmmm... if Y580 mSATA is SATA 2... then Y500 mostly the same ah? anyone got info... im using Y500 now... was thinking of geting mSATA since i plan to keep the currnet HHD as game installation drive. 1. Correct. 2. Correct. As the port for the original HDD is SATA3, you need to put your SSD there so that you can utilize the max performance, while moving your HDD to the ODD which is only SATA2 but it's more than enough to sustain the performance of an ordinary HDD. 3. Normally yes for Malaysian market pricing, but you can get equal value of mSATA unit for the equal capacity of a 2.5" SSD at Newegg. But do note that the mSATA for Y580 is only supported until SATA2 speed so this might be a bottleneck for the new SATA3 mSATA model. 4. Yes, just go Google and you can come up with a lot of stuff for that.  This post has been edited by Cobby: Dec 24 2012, 12:21 AM |
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Dec 24 2012, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(hirota @ Dec 24 2012, 11:24 AM) hello, how many Y500 model out there? is there non sli and sli model? So far whole Malaysia only Y500 SLI model is available. Other variation is not in yet. Not sure it will come. But online have variation.i was thinking to buy Y500 wihtout the second GPU at this moment but might get the external GPU somewhere in March 2013, so i worry i bought wrongly which cant upgrade in the future. thanks Added on December 24, 2012, 7:33 pm QUOTE(Laine @ Dec 24 2012, 03:01 PM) anyone has got their hand on Y500 ultrabay accessories? particularly the fan? Hmmmm... havnt try it, but i think the fan would be preety useless... unless if the user decides not to use the cooler pad then it would be somewhat useful... but so far... even im using SLI... during gaming its ok so far... not that hot compare to my previous laptops... im using CM U3 cooler pad...  http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/control...00#.UNf8R0G-rKF I have some idea to share... once after gaming n if u feel the lappy is hot, u can try use the "Dust Remover" options in the power management to blow the fan to max and the temp drops in 1min... haha...  This post has been edited by Cobby: Dec 24 2012, 07:33 PM |
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Dec 24 2012, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(mrl @ Dec 24 2012, 08:03 PM) Run "Dust Remover" and end process for the apps... will it stuck at that speed? anybody willing to try? The app wont stuck so far... its working great.... but there is one prob... it will run the blower in interval and last up to 2mins only... after that it wil stop. If wanna continue need click again...  I wonder if there's any speed controller software can force the fan speed to be high all the time??? But if we can find some software to control the fan like the lenovo management software, it would be posible to blast the fan speed as high as the blower. Can cool the laptop better... lower temp. But i afraid the fan might die faster too... haha |
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Dec 24 2012, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(fezrul @ Dec 24 2012, 11:14 PM) yup, thats why im looking for local shop thinking can trade in I wouldnt recommend it... unless u plan to use the i7 for computational intensive application.Other than that, the performance is barely noticeable in all i7 cpu. Only benchmarking software can show the diff synthetically.. practically... all the same or more less the same. |
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Dec 25 2012, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(xD4rever @ Dec 25 2012, 12:09 AM) anybody face keyboard problem? In windows 8?when type single word ,it will auto type other word |
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Dec 25 2012, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(xD4rever @ Dec 25 2012, 12:57 AM) ya..and keyboard become not respond Hmmmm... try go device manager and uninstall the driver. and restart.See if the re-installation of the driver fixes it. So far i didnt have prob using mine in Win8. |
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Dec 25 2012, 02:10 PM
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I run 3D Mark 11 yesterday on Y500, with all hardware and drivers in stock. I got P3694 score.
Il try to run again with upgraded parts and updated drivers. Lets hope for a better score. Note: Nvidia 310 driver has issue on Brightness control for many laptops, i contacted Nvidia and they told they wil be a new driver 313.XX coming out this January, so anyone with 306 driver can wait for this new one. It supposed to fix the brightness issue and improve the performance as well. Added on December 25, 2012, 2:18 pm QUOTE(arju @ Dec 25 2012, 10:12 AM) cool, i'm debating to get y580 or y500, I had the same debate before, i didnt know which one to take... Y580 or Y500.but y500 dont have optimus means gpu on at all time, but if y580 swap hdd with sdd and swap odd with hdd should improve pverall heat system right? my next laptop need to serve me another 4 years After many research and etc, i bought Y500. Im very happy with it. The performance and etc is good. If u wanna invest for long term, go for Y500... if u wanna change it again in the next 2 years... go for Y580. Future games will have full support on multi CPU and multi GPU. another way to decide is also depends on ur budget, if u have $$$ go for Y500... if u on tight budget, then go fo Y580. But GTX660 and GT650 have not much diff, architecture and etc is same, only the clock speed is diff. overclock a little and 650 wil be same as 660. (For single GPU). If u see 650 SLI, its on par with GTX675. btw, its just my 2cent opinion. The choice is always yours. Both Y580 and Y500 is good.  This post has been edited by Cobby: Dec 25 2012, 02:18 PM |
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Dec 25 2012, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(mrl @ Dec 25 2012, 04:25 PM) I'm not sure if there's a way to make it fast without plugging in the AC, but I believe it's performance limiter for power conservation even if you're on High Performance... the profile was designed that way... perhaps, if you set Dynamic Graphics will help? I dont know... never tried... could be the battery can't provide enough power for full performance as well... Yup... its true, for laptop even if u set high performance profile... the system will try to save power whenever it can when it detects running on battery only.even on high performance alone I can only use for around 2 hours, if gaming on full performance with battery, 30min only perhaps? If game, just use the plugin power...  |
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Dec 26 2012, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE(ndragon @ Dec 25 2012, 11:09 PM) hmm guys.. I am going to install msata to my y580.. Hi,den i install win8 pro using the upgrade on the msata.. how should i do it?.. the win8 pro update can just buy the key n dl the installer first?.. or i should install win7 on the msata 1st then only upgrade from there?.. where did u buy the mSATA? im looking for one but low yat dont have... kinda hard to find now...  Mind to share the Price/Size/Seller?  |
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Dec 26 2012, 10:11 PM
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Alright... planing to get from overseas... but shipping duration near 2 weeeks... i cant wait til then... haha
Hmmmm... looking for local seller now... all seems out of stock... goin for 128GB for now... 256 pricey... Hmmm... |
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Dec 26 2012, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(hirota @ Dec 26 2012, 11:19 PM) rm2899, 8gb ram, 1tb hdd+16gb msata ssd, bluray ODD, without the second gpu ofcoz. nice price u got there. warranty online check valid 1 year warranty, yes can extend via lenovo us site but i not yet extend. My specs is this: Y500 4GB RAM 500GB HDD 5400RPM SLI GPU Already RM3799.  I bought another 4GB stick... now looking for SSD... more money goin out...  Added on December 26, 2012, 11:50 pm QUOTE(hirota @ Dec 26 2012, 10:34 PM) how much for 128Gb? Shops selling at RM350++but all dont have 128GB stock... got 60GB and 256GB oni... This post has been edited by Cobby: Dec 26 2012, 11:50 PM |
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Dec 27 2012, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(hirota @ Dec 27 2012, 12:06 AM) im still thinking wanna upgrade msata ssd or not, coz now win8 booting very fast Yup... the Win8 boot is fast!but when i run multi tasking (Installing behind, word, excel, mp3, surfing) at the same time causes lag and some delay/hangs. So... with SSD supposed its fast... coz curently the bottleneck for Y500 is the HDD... But i heard that mSATA port might be SATA2 oni... so i thought of using the standard SSD... so far no one from Y500 reported any info on the mSATA SSD. |
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Dec 27 2012, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(hirota @ Dec 27 2012, 05:32 PM) mine come with mSata 16GB, this is the msata model SanDisk U100 Solid State Drive Hi, can you use HWinfo and post the SSD sata type. Coz if the SATA port is SATAII then SATA3 SSD stil runs on SATA2 speed.this is the msata spec. http://www.sandisk.com/products/ssd/sata/u100/ so it's SATA 6Gb/s = sata 3  Hmmm.. or u can try the CrystalDisk Mark / Bench 32 and test the mSATA Speed. That can show if the mSATA runs on SATA3 speed. |
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Dec 27 2012, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(hirota @ Dec 27 2012, 10:06 PM) here you are the hwinfo, but CrystalDisk Mark not able to detect the msata drive. I think the port runs on SATA3... btw, is ur windows installed on it? or is it just a separate drive u can access? Added on December 27, 2012, 11:29 pm QUOTE(ndragon @ Dec 27 2012, 10:47 PM) hey guys.. where do i dl win7 home basic ISO?.. Download from Microsoft site.i wan to reinstall the win7 on my msata.. den only upgrade win8 pro from there.. I wouldnt recommend upgrade from 7... a clean installation for Win8 would be better. Look for Win8 ISO. This post has been edited by Cobby: Dec 27 2012, 11:29 PM |
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Dec 28 2012, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(ndragon @ Dec 28 2012, 01:29 AM) okay I will try and c how tmr.. Awesome! so confirmed that the mSATA port for Y500 is SATA3! just installed win7 on my msata ssd.. the index rating is up! [attachmentid=3229676] edit: I tested ATTO on my msata.. heres the result.. I get full speed wo I think.. not sure if I read correctly.. meaning my msata support sata III?.. [attachmentid=3229683] heres a screen shot from Intel rapid storage.. it shows 6gb/s.. not sure if it means anything.. [attachmentid=3229687] so anyone can help me interpret?.. new to me.. cant digest.. lol  regarding the windows 7 score, it wil be up since the max for Win7 is 7.9 whereas for Win8 its 9.9, so cant compare between them. |
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