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post Dec 5 2012, 12:36 AM, updated 14y ago

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http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...auled-to-court/

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PETALING JAYA: Twenty-five residents of Pinggir Zaaba in Taman Tun Dr Ismail will be filing a civil suit against MRT Corp for insisting on building rail tracks near their residential area.

Pinggir Zaaba Residents Action Group claimed that they have been ignored by MRT Corp which is keen to expedite the construction of the railway system that runs through Klang Valley.

“We have faith in the justice system. We believe the courts will give us a fair hearing and address our concerns in the suit which we will file soon,” said a statement from the group.

On Nov 20, about 20 residents from Pinggir Zaaba staged a protest outside their homes in protest against MRT Corp’s construction of rail tracks that cuts across their neighbourhood.

They claimed that the tracks, some of which were being built just 14 metres away from their homes, is causing noise pollution and damage to their properties.

The affected householders said that they have had meetings with MRT Corp and Syarikat Prasarana Bhd on the matter since early this year, but no proper solution was offered.

The residents said that they had no choice but take legal action against the project as previous overtures to find an amicable solution with MRT Corp did not result in the desired solution.

“We have lost faith in MRT Corp and we doubt it would take the necessary measures to address our concerns,” the statement read.

MRT Corp, a government linked company, was set up for the purpose of implementing Malaysia’s first integrated and sustainable mass rapid transit railway.

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post Dec 5 2012, 12:46 AM

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i wish to go their house and throw eggs at it man.... don't be so selfish. MRT is for the benefits of rakyat. if u tak suka MRT to near to you, sell the property and move somewhere else. Just because of this 25 id*ots and now the MRT might get delay delay and delay.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:46 AM)
i wish to go their house and throw eggs at it man.... don't be so selfish. MRT is for the benefits of rakyat. if u tak suka MRT to near to you, sell the property and move somewhere else. Just because of this 25 id*ots and now the MRT might get delay delay and delay.
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In the earlier part of news, they want MRT Corp to buy out their houses, but later after referring to a committee, MRT Corp decided not to buy their houses. And so, adding to the fact that the alignment won't be changed...they now looking a filing a suit against MRT.

http://www.themalaysiantimes.com.my/mrt-co...ir-zaaba-houses
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:48 AM)
In the earlier part of news, they want MRT Corp to buy out their houses, but later after referring to a committee, MRT Corp decided not to buy their houses. And so, adding to the fact that the alignment won't be changed...they now looking a filing a suit against MRT.

http://www.themalaysiantimes.com.my/mrt-co...ir-zaaba-houses
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those b*stards sure demanding ultra high price for their run down houses. MRT corp definitely won't buy them.
Because if they buy them, then opposition will start saying gov is wasting money, blah blah blah.
So serve them right. ask them to rot in hell.
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post Dec 5 2012, 01:09 AM

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post Dec 5 2012, 01:16 AM

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by the will of the majority they will lose.... but by the will of privacy and private property, they will win.
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QUOTE(sgwc @ Dec 5 2012, 01:16 AM)
by the will of the majority they will lose.... but by the will of privacy and private property, they will win.
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care to elaborate?

its not like mrt are using their land rite
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QUOTE(ToddStarz @ Dec 5 2012, 01:20 AM)
care to elaborate?

its not like mrt are using their land rite
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They can use noise pollution and their safety as pretext to winning the case. Safety is jeopardized when there is access to it.

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:36 AM)
i tot i already mention this to you few month ago.. kampung2005.. not to build stupid lrt in damansara.. you ruin their place....ppl like you ..no planning...only fail the property..shame on you
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QUOTE(sgwc @ Dec 5 2012, 01:21 AM)
They can use noise pollution and their safety as pretext to winning the case. Safety is jeopardized when there is access to it.
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sound barriers can be built, safety is a vague issue imo
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QUOTE(atombom123 @ Dec 5 2012, 01:41 AM)
i tot i already mention this to you few month ago.. kampung2005.. not to build stupid lrt  in damansara.. you ruin their place....ppl like you ..no planning...only fail the property..shame on you
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I am no MRT Corp. If it is possible, underground route should be created from Kota Damansara area to area just away from the TTDI water treatment plant. That would appease many people.

Demand of LRT/MRT exists in Damansara.

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QUOTE(ToddStarz @ Dec 5 2012, 01:41 AM)
sound barriers can be built, safety is a vague issue imo
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Yep, barriers can be erected but it cannot filter all noise. Safety is a vague issue but like most of the people, I don't like it when i see people or strangers hang around, move around within the vicinity of my dream home.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Dec 5 2012, 02:09 AM)
kid  : when u own ur dream home then only discuss and call other selfish
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post Dec 5 2012, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(sgwc @ Dec 5 2012, 02:12 AM)
Yep, barriers can be erected but it cannot filter all noise. Safety is a vague issue but like most of the people, I don't like it when i see people or strangers hang around, move around within the vicinity of my dream home.
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Residents does have the right to file suit and considering they have their own property, that's natural.

I am not surprised if MRT Corp considers "out-of-court" settlement.

When the particular line was known as "Kota Damansara-Cheras line", the alignment actually follows down to Damansara Uptown, then curves eastwards to Sprint highway.
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This might be a problem in future sooner or later if the won the case.

But I still blame MRT Corp that should construct underground project which suitable for long term planning.
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post Dec 5 2012, 02:56 AM

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i fully agree with the house owners, how would you feel if suddenly one day a mrt line is erected 15 meters from your front door?

property price decrease, sound and noise pollution, more traffic, cracks and damage to property

when you buy your own house then you talk

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QUOTE(assas @ Dec 5 2012, 02:56 AM)
i fully agree with the house owners, how would you feel if suddenly one day a mrt line is erected 15 meters from your front door?

property price decrease, sound and noise pollution, more traffic, cracks and damage to property

when you buy your own house then you talk
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Compensation is the best way to solve the issue. The only question is.....who will do the valuation.

Not long ago, during the planning of LRT Extension, Prasarana paid a sum of money as compensation to Saujana Residency residents who were affected as some units were only 4 metres apart. Perhaps the MRT Corp can take precedence from this case.

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QUOTE(assas @ Dec 5 2012, 02:56 AM)
i fully agree with the house owners, how would you feel if suddenly one day a mrt line is erected 15 meters from your front door?

property price decrease, sound and noise pollution, more traffic, cracks and damage to property

when you buy your own house then you talk
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you sure the property price decrease?
perhaps you should try buy some properties near the taman bahagia station.
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post Dec 5 2012, 12:25 PM

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TTDI does have their rights to file lawsuit against MRT.
However were it a right direction toward our public transportation?

Problem will still persist even if MRT corp decide to go underground. jalan sultan for example.
Cost is another problem to think at

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post Dec 5 2012, 12:34 PM

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kampong,

beside cost.. why mrt dun want build all the line underground??
like london??
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post Dec 5 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 5 2012, 12:25 PM)
TTDI does have their rights to file lawsuit against MRT.
However were it a right direction toward our public transportation?

Problem will still persist even if MRT corp decide to go underground. jalan sultan for example.
Cost is another problem to think at
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There is no final cost for the MRT 1 yet.

Besides, look at the precedent of compensation made by Prasarana during LRT extension in Subang Jaya, that might be the solution. Prasarana paid compensation plus offering to build 150 m long sound barrier in Subang Jaya. That might be the solution to solve the issue as realignment is very unlikely.

Jln Sultan is different case than the one in TTDI, as if it is underground it has better space (under Sprint Highway) as it is wider than Jln Sultan. That said, see how it goes.
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If got working still okay lar.. At least wont be at home hearing the same sh!t noise produce from LRT/MRT everyday.. lolx
Weekend, just put on ear plug XD
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QUOTE(likimikuku @ Dec 5 2012, 12:34 PM)
kampong,

beside cost.. why mrt dun want build all the line underground??
like london??
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Cost is really the no.1 issue. Aside from higher construction cost, you also have longer construction time plus the maintenance cost of tunnel is more expensive than an elevated section.
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QUOTE(ganz @ Dec 5 2012, 12:38 PM)
later.. ask where is LRT/MRT
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Don't be surprised if there is outside settlement biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:40 PM)
Cost is really the no.1 issue. Aside from higher construction cost, you also have longer construction time plus the maintenance cost of tunnel is more expensive than an elevated section.
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aiyo.. money only ma..
i prefer undergound..
just ask for more budget la
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An option is to move the houses underground. If an owner can tolerate the noise, then keep it above ground. If he or she cannot, then tear it down, dig a big hole, sell the soil/rock/sand, and build one underground. Later, he or she may be amazed by how many million ringgit others are willing to pay to buy it.

http://dornob.com/underground-home-modern-...h-a-green-roof/

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:37 PM)
There is no final cost for the MRT 1 yet.

Besides, look at the precedent of compensation made by Prasarana during LRT extension in Subang Jaya, that might be the solution. Prasarana paid compensation plus offering to build 150 m long sound barrier in Subang Jaya. That might be the solution to solve the issue as realignment is very unlikely.

Jln Sultan is different case than the one in TTDI, as if it is underground it has better space (under Sprint Highway) as it is wider than Jln Sultan. That said, see how it goes.
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instead of paying the compensation.
government perhaps buy all the nearby resident. build public housing for mid income holder and lower income holder condo there. biggrin.gif
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Resident Ho Lee Yoke, 54, said he had bought another property in view of MRT Corp’s negotiation with the residents.

“Now I’m stuck. I have spent so much money buying the other property.”
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The whole problem starts when Public Inquiry was not conducted before any design or alignment was finalised. Undoubtedly, we are still doing things Third World mentality where the Public is alway reduced to second place to so called developments and progress. The Public has a right to a say when Public money is utilised. It doesnt matter whether it affects one or twenty five people. Its about time our Government engaged the Public in any developments. which affects the livelihood of the Public where there is an impact to personal property, safety and space. You don't just build something at people's doorstep by ignoring all this. We don't need a Totalitarian Government. Enuff said.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:58 AM)
those b*stards sure demanding ultra high price for their run down houses. MRT corp definitely won't buy them.
Because if they buy them, then opposition will start saying gov is wasting money, blah blah blah.
So serve them right. ask them to rot in hell.
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This.

And for someone who lived in damansara for a very long time, I sure hope of having this MRT asap.

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post Dec 5 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 5 2012, 01:04 PM)
government perhaps buy all the nearby resident. build public housing for mid income holder and lower income holder condo there. biggrin.gif
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Won't work.

Part of the issue is that there has been lack of public consultation during planning process.

Current situation is that plans are only made known to public after everything done by the authority, hence public are clueless and do not know what are the other options etc, and when that public display held, people will be very clueless/uncertain and that's where opposition of the plan starts to come in as there has been lack of certainty.

If the planning made from day 1 with consultation plus showing options, let the people see and decide what is best, then if the plan is being finalised at the end, then the thing can be said as "legit" as there would have been maximum consultation to begin with.

Therefore, talking MRT 2 and 3, they should consult with people right now rather than waiting for the public display as that would be too late.

Actually, if there is maximum public consultation, things actually move smoother than you think.
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"In democracy, we have to consider the right of every individuals.

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Dec 5 2012, 01:08 PM)
This.

And for someone who lived in damansara for a very long time, I sure hope of having this MRT asap.
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The need of MRT/LRT in Damansara is definitely there. There is lack of consultation from day 1 and so you will all sort of issues cropping now.

Therefore, for MRT 2 and MRT 3, they should start talking to people now, rather than later.
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QUOTE(ganz @ Dec 5 2012, 12:38 PM)
later.. ask where is LRT/MRT
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Lol so true. People.

QUOTE(likimikuku @ Dec 5 2012, 12:45 PM)
aiyo.. money only ma..
i prefer undergound..
just ask for more budget la
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Yes, sounds easy when we talk.
But in reality its not as easy as ABC.


QUOTE(hwt @ Dec 5 2012, 12:58 PM)
An option is to move the houses underground.  If an owner can tolerate the noise, then keep it above ground.  If he or she cannot, then tear it down, dig a big hole, sell the soil/rock/sand, and build one underground.  Later, he or she may be amazed by how many million ringgit others are willing to pay to buy it.

http://dornob.com/underground-home-modern-...h-a-green-roof/
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LOL you.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 5 2012, 01:04 PM)
instead of paying the compensation.
government perhaps buy all the nearby resident. build public housing for mid income holder and lower income holder condo there. biggrin.gif
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If what I red from kampung is right, they already asked the MRT to buy it but MRT declined the offer.
Perhaps it was cause after evaluation and calculation, getting sued is far more cheaper than buying their properties.
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Dec 5 2012, 01:22 PM)
Lol so true. People.
Yes, sounds easy when we talk.
But in reality its not as easy as ABC.
LOL you.
If what I red from kampung is right, they already asked the MRT to buy it but MRT declined the offer.
Perhaps it was cause after evaluation and calculation, getting sued is far more cheaper than buying their properties.
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Therefore in future, planning should involve people from day 1 to minimise uncertainty.

No doubt, MRT in Damansara would finally fill one missing piece of rail coverage. smile.gif After all, the northwest area is lacking rail.
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lol they cant comprehend that the area in front and back of their house dont belong to them brows.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 01:24 PM)
Therefore in future, planning should involve people from day 1 to minimise uncertainty.

No doubt, MRT in Damansara would finally fill one missing piece of rail coverage.  smile.gif After all, the northwest area is lacking rail.
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Lets hope they learn their mistake and dont repeat it again.
Although I can definitely said 99.9% they would repeat it again.
HAHAHA
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Dec 5 2012, 01:27 PM)
Lets hope they learn their mistake and dont repeat it again.
Although I can definitely said 99.9% they would repeat it again.
HAHAHA
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Huhuhuh, the plan is that for MRT 2 and MRT 3, they will only do public display next year laugh.gif

So it will be messy again laugh.gif
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government should just invoke Akta Pengambilan Tanah 1960.......

grab their land ...and pay a little bit of compensation....


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kampung u keep suggest underground, but when digging time wont cause crack to the house nearby meh?

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 01:18 PM)
Current situation is that plans are only made known to public after everything done by the authority, hence public are clueless and do not know what are the other options etc, and when that public display held, people will be very clueless/uncertain and that's where opposition of the plan starts to come in as there has been lack of certainty.
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I heard they hired someone from Singapore. This is the way adopted by Singapore. The public has no clue who and where will be affected. They know only after the final plan is released. By that time, what they are supposed to do is follow the instructions to tolerate the changes, or to vacate the acquired buildings. What the public may get is, if the barrier during construction is too high, blocking the view of potential customers, then they can get it changed to something lower or partially transparent.

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Dec 5 2012, 01:37 PM)
government should just invoke Akta Pengambilan Tanah 1960.......
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Actually using this route is also time consuming.

When the Klang Valley double tracking project done in 1990's, the government tried to avoid using this method as it will delay the project (which already delayed back then).

Best way is to find an amicable solution (which both sides trying to find since 2011).
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SPAD has since clarified in a press statement that TTDI houses may not need to be acquired simply because the properties are located beyond the 20m minimum buffer zone.


How does the TTDI residents knows exactly the closest buffer zone is 14m when SPAD informed it is beyond 20m? Anyhow I also think that MRT Corp never promise of acquisition but says that is possibilities that, that might happen.

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They claimed that the tracks, some of which were being built just 14 metres away from their homes, is causing noise pollution and damage to their properties.


Wait, MRT Crop is already starting to lay tracks? Or do they mean pylons?

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QUOTE(Piros @ Dec 5 2012, 01:53 PM)
How does the TTDI residents knows exactly the closest buffer zone is 14m when SPAD informed it is beyond 20m? Anyhow I also think that MRT Corp never promise of acquisition but says that is possibilities that, that might happen.
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Lets see how it goes. I hope the planning issue won't happen again in MRT 2 and MRT 3.

MRT 2 will be more challenging as it passes through some of the densest area in KL.
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QUOTE(Piros @ Dec 5 2012, 01:53 PM)
Wait, MRT Crop is already starting to lay tracks? Or do they mean pylons?
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No no, it's way way early for tracks.

Right now, so preparatory works in some places, then in some areas, starting to build piers. There is not a single completed viaduct section.
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QUOTE(atombom123 @ Dec 5 2012, 01:41 AM)
i tot i already mention this to you few month ago.. kampung2005.. not to build stupid lrt  in damansara.. you ruin their place....ppl like you ..no planning...only fail the property..shame on you

kampung is only /k/ transport minister, not marehshia transport minister.
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Building MRT stations near low-density housing estates like TTDI just doesn't make sense. It's a known fact that existing LRT stations next to low-density housing estates have low ridership.

To boost ridership, land around LRT and MRT stations should be compulsorily acquired to be redeveloped into huge condos. Profits from such ventures are enough to finance the building of any number of MRT or LRT lines.

No noise issues. No low ridership issues. No funding issues.

Use one stone to kill 3 birds at once.
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QUOTE(FastCoder @ Dec 5 2012, 02:42 PM)
Building MRT stations near low-density housing estates like TTDI just doesn't make sense. It's a known fact that existing LRT stations next to low-density housing estates have low ridership.

To boost ridership, land around LRT and MRT stations should be compulsorily acquired to be redeveloped into huge condos. Profits from such ventures are enough to finance the building of any number of MRT or LRT lines.

No noise issues. No low ridership issues. No funding issues.

Use one stone to kill 3 birds at once.
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The issue is the track, not the station. The station itself is further away from the mentioned area.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 02:57 PM)
The issue is the track, not the station. The station itself is further away from the mentioned area.
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Just acquire the whole wide area. Develop into another Mont Kiara.
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QUOTE(FastCoder @ Dec 5 2012, 03:00 PM)
Just acquire the whole wide area. Develop into another Mont Kiara.
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Acquiring is not a straightforward task, more so we are talking about this area.

Based from all news report, residents want either realignment or compensation or buy out.
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QUOTE(likimikuku @ Dec 5 2012, 12:34 PM)
kampong,

beside cost.. why mrt dun want build all the line underground??
like london??
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 03:04 PM)
Acquiring is not a straightforward task, more so we are talking about this area.

Based from all news report, residents want either realignment or compensation or buy out.
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Acquire solely to make this tiny group happy doesn't make financial sense. What is MRT Corp going to do with the property? Rent them out? Acquire to re-develop the whole area makes perfect financial sense.
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QUOTE(FastCoder @ Dec 5 2012, 03:11 PM)
Acquire solely to make this tiny group happy doesn't make financial sense. What is MRT Corp going to do with the property? Rent them out? Acquire to re-develop the whole area makes perfect financial sense.
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Then the best way is compensation. It had been done in earlier project.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 03:13 PM)
Then the best way is compensation. It had been done in earlier project.
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What if they demand a compensation close to the market value of their properties?

We already screwed-up the city planning of the whole Klang Valley by allowing the uncontrolled growth of urban sprawl. Redeveloping land around LRT and MRT stations is a way to correct this mistake.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 01:48 AM)
In the earlier part of news, they want MRT Corp to buy out their houses, but later after referring to a committee, MRT Corp decided not to buy their houses. And so, adding to the fact that the alignment won't be changed...they now looking a filing a suit against MRT.

http://www.themalaysiantimes.com.my/mrt-co...ir-zaaba-houses
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Kampung, any chance to get alignment view of the MRT and the houses?
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:58 AM)
those b*stards sure demanding ultra high price for their run down houses. MRT corp definitely won't buy them.
Because if they buy them, then opposition will start saying gov is wasting money, blah blah blah.
So serve them right. ask them to rot in hell.
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QUOTE(mistralmudd @ Dec 5 2012, 03:31 PM)
Kampung, any chance to get alignment view of the MRT and the houses?
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If you want the exact detailed alignment, I don't see any.

However, at the main page of the Mymrt website, there is a map, based on Google Earth, that is the closest you can get. Go there.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 5 2012, 12:23 PM)
you sure the property price decrease?
perhaps you should try buy some properties near the taman bahagia station.
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upscale premium residential areas like ttdi properties do not increase significantly due to the presence of an lrt station, everyone has their own transportation and are looking for privacy and security in a property
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I think these ungrateful TTDI residents shouldn't be allowed to use the MRT when it's completed. They still made so much fuss about it.

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I think these ungrateful TTDI residents shouldn't be allowed to use the MRT when it's completed. They still made so much fuss about it.

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its a waste of time trying to suing MRT over land matter....MRT already invoke seksyen 4 akta pengambilan tanah during early phase during alligment survey...during sekyen 4 all land owners along mrt early phase alligment will be informed....probably during this time these ttdi people think mrt gonna compensate for their houses/lot being taken for the project....but after detail alignment design not all land will be taken coz by law only need 13 meter clearance from structure to houses/building....by this time mrt will invoke seksyen 8 akta pengambilan tanah and all houses/lot kena the final allignment will be compensated....

so there should be no written agreement between land/house owners for mrt to take the land...only when seksyen 8 is approved by the government mrt will proceed with land acquisition only for people whose house/land will be use for the project

fyi is not mrt actually gonna compensate these people....by law the money comes from gomen....since mrt is a goverment funded project so basically its the same

the worst things is these ttdi people will 100% lose to mrt in court....and by sueing mrt they care actually delaying mrt progress plus adding extra cost....mind u some packages have already been awarded and already started their ground work and small delays in these kind of big project will cost the goverment in millions and maybe billions in extra cost



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QUOTE(sudustyle @ Dec 5 2012, 11:03 PM)
its a waste of time trying to suing MRT over land matter....MRT already invoke seksyen 4 akta pengambilan tanah during early phase during alligment survey...during sekyen 4 all land owners along mrt  early phase alligment will be informed....probably during this time these ttdi people think mrt gonna compensate for their houses/lot being taken for the project....but after detail alignment design not all land will be taken coz by law only need 13 meter clearance from structure to houses/building....by this time mrt will invoke seksyen 8 akta pengambilan tanah and all houses/lot kena the final allignment will be compensated....

so there should  be no written agreement between land/house owners for mrt to take the land...only when seksyen 8 is approved by the government mrt will proceed with land acquisition only for people whose house/land will be use for the project

fyi is not mrt actually gonna compensate these people....by law the money comes from gomen....since mrt is a goverment funded project so basically its the same

the worst things is these ttdi people will 100% lose to mrt in court....and by sueing mrt they care actually delaying mrt progress plus adding extra cost....mind u some packages already started their ground work and small delays in big project will cost the goverment in millions and maybe billions in cost
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so bloody selfish. Think they got car so everyone else muz have car.

there is a mosque there, mrt should be built so that other ppl who dont have car can go to the mosque as well.

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Accually i dunno why pipur complaining about the MRT project

I live at Mutiara Damansara and alot of the residents plus my parents complaining.. Imo, i find the MRT/LRT more beneficial than bane

Things like able to travel to KL or other LRT linked places is useful to me since the LRT will be near my place. For example if i were to work at KL, and as a new grad you cant expect me to buy a car right? LRT will be my main tranportation.

Also, about the sound issues, i dont see any people in Kepong complaining when their house is practically next to a KTM track and station.. Or mebe they edi ala tegal sudah bisa

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Dec 5 2012, 11:29 PM)
Accually i dunno why pipur complaining about the MRT project

I live at Mutiara Damansara and alot of the residents plus my parents complaining.. Imo, i find the MRT/LRT more beneficial than bane

Things like able to travel to KL or other LRT linked places is useful to me since the LRT will be near my place. For example if i were to work at KL, and as a new grad you cant expect me to buy a car right? LRT will be my main tranportation.

Also, about the sound issues, i dont see any people in Kepong complaining when their house is practically next to a KTM track and station.. Or mebe they edi ala tegal sudah bisa
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With this MRT, travelling will be a lot easier, that is for sure. Right now a bus from KL Sentral to 1 Utama takes about 110 minutes (non peak) or 130 minutes (peak). It should take nearly 20 mins to do same journey with the MRT.
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TTDI and Bangi

2 areas identified as loud, pretentious, hipster uncles area

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 11:34 PM)
With this MRT, travelling will be a lot easier, that is for sure. Right now a bus from KL Sentral to 1 Utama takes about 110 minutes (non peak) or 130 minutes (peak). It should take nearly 20 mins to do same journey with the MRT.
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i agree

not to mention its still more affordable than taxis
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I hope they can work things out.


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:10 amwow, reading through this thread, I'm surprised to see how selfish the people of /k are, want to have MRT as soon as possible, ignoring the plight of others, you people would sure love to live in PRC land, they don't care about the voice of the people there, they'll just send thugs in to destroy the people's property.

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Later after MRT done already can sell/rent for high price.

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QUOTE(assas @ Dec 5 2012, 08:04 PM)
upscale premium residential areas like ttdi properties do not increase significantly due to the presence of an lrt station, everyone has their own transportation and are looking for privacy and security in a property
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lol how upscale is that on the TTDI properties.
To me it just an old high end housing areas.
There are plenty of these type of housing areas in SS2 and damansara. they are nothing special.
not even design to be a gated high end housing areas. laugh.gif

Also so far there is no proof that properties value drop due to MRT or other public transportation.

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TTDI and Bangi

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QUOTE(B1az3 @ Dec 5 2012, 08:16 PM)
I think these ungrateful TTDI residents shouldn't be allowed to use the MRT when it's completed. They still made so much fuss about it.

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Define ungrateful and hipster?

Those people have right to do protest it's for their own safety and privacy and it's under By-Law and our Constitution.

We should blame FD for rejecting the proposal to do underground train way back 90s and at that time the cost is more cheaper

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QUOTE(VerdictReview @ Dec 6 2012, 07:14 AM)
Define ungrateful?

Those people have right to do protest it's for their own safety and privacy and it's under By-Law and our Constitution.

We should blame FD for rejecting the proposal to do underground train way back 90s and at that time the cost is more cheaper
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ya, people act as if having your house devalued is a small matter, most people have to spend their whole life paying of house loans. If I know something that's going to be devaluing my house is going to be built nearby, you can bet that I will be doing everything I can to stop and delay it until I am properly compensated. You can take your "greater good" and shove it right into your selfish ass, ass*holes

I bet most people here complaining about the residents are poorfags who don't own any property.

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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:06 AM)
I hope they can work things out.


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:10 amwow, reading through this thread, I'm surprised to see how selfish the people of /k are, want to have MRT as soon as possible, ignoring the plight of others, you people would sure love to live in PRC land, they don't care about the voice of the people there, they'll just send thugs in to destroy the people's property.
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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:17 AM)
ya, people act as if having your house devalued is a small matter, most people have to spend their whole life paying of house loans. If I know  something that's going to be devaluing my house is going to be built nearby, you can bet that I will be doing everything I can to stop and delay it until I am properly compensated. You can take your "greater good" and shove it right into your selfish ass, ass*holes
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Do you know what's the defination of selfish?

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Looks like the one that is being selfish is the house owners and not us. when it is for personal profit, we call is selfish. when it is for everyones profit, we don't. It also says lacking of consideration for others. which is what the house owners are doing.
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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:17 AM)
ya, people act as if having your house devalued is a small matter, most people have to spend their whole life paying of house loans. If I know  something that's going to be devaluing my house is going to be built nearby, you can bet that I will be doing everything I can to stop and delay it until I am properly compensated. You can take your "greater good" and shove it right into your selfish ass, ass*holes

I bet most people here complaining about the residents are poorfags who don't own any property.
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Any proof that the properties prices will drop due to the MRT?
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Do you know what's the defination of selfish?

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Looks like the one that is being selfish is the house owners and not us. when it is for personal profit, we call is selfish. when it is for everyones profit, we don't. It also says lacking of consideration for others. which is what the house owners are doing.
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And the people here side with the MRT developers because they want the MRT, and they are ignoring the plight of the house owners. That is selfish, I highly doubt the people here actually care about the entire public.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 6 2012, 07:28 AM)
Any proof that the properties prices will drop due to the MRT?
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Noise pollution? Damage to property? They aren't building the station near their houses. If it's the station than there probably won't be any problem since it will most like raise their property prices.
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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:33 AM)
Noise pollution? Damage to property? They aren't building the station near their houses. If it's the station than there probably won't be any problem since it will most like raise their property prices.
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Any proof of damage building?
MRT will just build sound barriers. on the MRT track in the place.
MRT station is near by lar.
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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:17 AM)
ya, people act as if having your house devalued is a small matter, most people have to spend their whole life paying of house loans. If I know  something that's going to be devaluing my house is going to be built nearby, you can bet that I will be doing everything I can to stop and delay it until I am properly compensated. You can take your "greater good" and shove it right into your selfish ass, ass*holes
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True,

From I know the compensate offered by FD is under market value which happened to Bukit Lanjan people for Penchala Link project that they need to continue paying the apartment they get from FD
and those affected house learnt from it.

I don't know why BN government reject those proposal to do underground train which in 90's - early 2000 the cost is not that high.

But I don't think selfish is right word since their concern is all about safety.

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Any proof of damage building?
MRT will just build sound barriers. on the MRT track in the place.
MRT station is near by lar.
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I'm going off what was said in the article.

I don't have much faith in promises given by big companies. But for the house owners sake, I hope it's true that their property won't be affected.


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:45 amAlso, if the station is nearby, it will also mean that there will be an increase in traffic in their area.

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:36 AM)
They claimed that the tracks, some of which were being built just 14 metres away from their homes, is causing noise pollution and damage to their properties.
MRT should settle and liable to this if such rule for construction does exist laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:06 AM)
I hope they can work things out.


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:10 amwow, reading through this thread, I'm surprised to see how selfish the people of /k are, want to have MRT as soon as possible, ignoring the plight of others, you people would sure love to live in PRC land, they don't care about the voice of the people there, they'll just send thugs in to destroy the people's property.
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I'll just hover my cursor at your house and demolish it, here's your compensation so buzz off, go find another house.
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mind u any protest towards mrt will only delay the project since construction phase has started....and goverment will have to absorb the cost ie tax payers money

about the compensation value....the goverment will pay the current market value of the property at the time when mrt filed their section 4 akta pengambilan tanah...which is around 2-3 years back

the lack of public awaress campaign on such matters is because mrt have been instructed by ministry to keep diam diam....
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 6 2012, 08:42 AM)
I'll just hover my cursor at your house and demolish it,  here's your compensation so buzz off, go find another house.
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I take that you're a fan of the CCP?

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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:39 AM)
I'm going off what was said in the article.

I don't have much faith in promises given by big companies. But for the house owners sake, I hope it's true that their property won't be affected.


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:45 amAlso, if the station is nearby, it will also mean that there will be an increase in traffic in their area.
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the traffic there is already huge. so no huge differ for the traffic with or without the station.
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QUOTE(Weldon29 @ Dec 6 2012, 08:56 AM)
I thought you of all people would support property rights.
I take that your a fan of the CCP?
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Actually i'm a fan of simcity.

Sorry I dont support bunker mentality,

and dude you're living in a city, which of course experiences rapid shifts and changes in order to become more efficient. And why are you standing in the way of urban modernisation ? time to start behaving like an urbanite. And utopia does not exist, deal with it.

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 6 2012, 07:14 AM)
lol how upscale is that on the TTDI properties.
To me it just an old high end housing areas.
There are plenty of these type of housing areas in SS2 and damansara. they are nothing special.
not even design to be a gated high end housing areas. laugh.gif

Also so far there is no proof that properties value drop due to MRT or other public transportation.
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I build another track under your house.
Add another MRT station in your bedroom.
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post Dec 6 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(grumpyorang @ Dec 6 2012, 02:51 PM)
I build another track under your house.
Add another MRT station in your bedroom.
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if you dont want to live in the city, go live in a kampung.
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post Dec 6 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(grumpyorang @ Dec 6 2012, 02:51 PM)
I build another track under your house.
Add another MRT station in your bedroom.
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this kind of rhetoric normally comes from primary school children
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post Dec 6 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(grumpyorang @ Dec 6 2012, 02:51 PM)
I build another track under your house.
Add another MRT station in your bedroom.
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lolz your post make no sense.

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