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Heartnsoul
post Sep 21 2013, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Sep 21 2013, 01:55 PM)
Mind sharing that? tongue.gif
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Type peribahasa dari buku text form 4 dan 5 in google tongue.gif

QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 21 2013, 01:57 PM)
Screen , I'm not sure where you got that idea because the peribahasa component had only been added about 10 years ago .

Heartnsoul , yes , it's true . At least one will be from the form four and form five textbooks . Reading those will be your safest bet to land some marks in the section .
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Oh ok, thanks, so only at least 1 will come out?

QUOTE(1insane @ Sep 21 2013, 02:03 PM)
So, now you all are doing trials or questions in revision books?
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Trials and past years
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post Sep 21 2013, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 21 2013, 02:16 PM)
At least one . Sometimes if you're lucky , 2 . But normally all the peribahasa asked are common ones .
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Oh ok, I guess I'll just focus on those in the text book for the time being, BM is the least of my worries
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post Sep 21 2013, 02:29 PM

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Well, I managed to get 28/30 for my bahagian A and 82/100 for my bahagian B. I always go for 1,3 or 4. You know, the pendapat essays. I memorise a bunch of peribahasa and flashy words(berdarjat tinggi brows.gif ) and "goreng-goreng" them inside. rclxms.gif And yes, I like to goreng
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QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 21 2013, 03:03 PM)
Heartnsoul

Here's my Percubaan Karangan , what do you think ? I cringe at my spelling errors though .  sweat.gif
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Wow, your essays, especially the Bahagian B was amazing. shocking.gif I would post mine, but my handwriting is urgh cry.gif Well, I'm sure we all suffer from spelling errors. Heck, I always repeat a sentence at least once in my exams it seems. I mentioned "jika masalah ini dibiarkan berterusan" twice in succession. I guess I'll have to write faster and do a quick run through my essay before the time is up.

May I know how much time you spent on both parts? notworthy.gif


QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 21 2013, 03:10 PM)
Here's a link to Bahagian A and Bahagian B karangan's by a student of Cikgu Tan , not sure if you've seen this blog :

http://cikgutancl.blogspot.com/2013/09/ram...memelihara.html

Her essay seems to flow quite smoothly ; peribahasa's are in abundance .
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reading the blog, I like it rclxms.gif



Anyways, this question came up during my trials in Sejarah P1 :

Sejak Zaman Maurys, pelbagai jenis cukai dikenakan terhadap hasil perdagangan. Hasil cukai tersebut digunakan untuk:

A membuka sekolah baru
B membina kubu pertahanan
C membayar gaji anggota tentera
D meningkatkan kemudahan di peabuhan


Anyone knows the answer for this? I looked through my buku rujukan but it was not mentioned and I dont have F4 textbook
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Thank you biggrin.gif Can't believe this was not in the Success buku rujukan
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QUOTE(kangaroo96 @ Sep 21 2013, 06:02 PM)
This is why it's important to read both. The first time I normally read the textbook, then my reference book. At the same time, I'll add points which are not included in the reference book.

I can say the textbook is a mess in terms of point organisation so I just read once, it makes me feel headache.
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Sep 21 2013, 06:30 PM)
For BM Bahagian B karangan I scored 92/100. I was honestly surprised lol. But my teacher took back my paper. But my paper 2 was really tough so Idk....... sad.gif

For english my teacher is super strict luckily I was able to score 80/85 for continuous writing and 35/35 for directed writing. I cringe at my grammar errors though.

Anyone knows how to score experiment questions for Chemistry paper 2 ? :/
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QUOTE(chun96 @ Sep 21 2013, 08:02 PM)
Even Sejarah?
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Well, I read the textbook while teacher explains. At home, nah.

QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 21 2013, 11:17 PM)
Do you commit careless mistakes in Add Maths ? I find it frustrating and hard to achieve perfection when mistakes pop up here and there .
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Always. Its usually because of time constraints
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post Sep 24 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(JJunzXian @ Sep 23 2013, 08:50 PM)
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My friend is EPICly awesome for writing this for Trial Exams.
And he is still manage to get an A for english ._.
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Wow, and I thought me writing about the "Bentong lights-out inccident" for the essay tittle Life Without Electricity was crossing the line.(Mid year English paper was the day after the election brows.gif ) This is on another level.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Sep 23 2013, 08:53 PM)
I sense future 50 shades of grey author.
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This. brows.gif

QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 23 2013, 09:05 PM)
All right ...  sweat.gif
Your teacher must have been entertained , at least . Very brave of him . Post that on /k and you'll get lots of attention .  tongue.gif
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post Sep 24 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(sciencefreak @ Sep 24 2013, 02:42 PM)
Hey guys...I'm not sure if I'm too late. But I'm also taking my SPM this year....  Pure Science! biggrin.gif

Can anyone tell me how can I study Sejarah and Biology effectively? Been having problems with these 2 subjects!
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Sejarah, well I would say read the Textbook(all of it, including those info boxes) and then just discard it and use a buku rujukan. Everytime you finish a chapter, do the exercise. Once all done, well, past years smile.gif

Bio, same thing.

Just my 0.02 smile.gif
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QUOTE(kangaroo96 @ Sep 24 2013, 04:01 PM)
Gotten back all my results with sejarah as the highest and BM as the lowest.

Sejarah is unexpectedly high, a 100, first in my form 5 life
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Great job rclxms.gif That's amazing rclxm9.gif

last time I got 100 in SJ was in Form 1 cry.gif

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Anyone knows where I can find some Johor state questions?
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QUOTE(kangaroo96 @ Sep 24 2013, 07:08 PM)
I think it's also because my teacher marked quite lenient, she ignored minor spelling mistakes, and there was one entire structure question asking about KBKK question(basic knowledge of PMR+KBKK).
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I thought all minor spelling mistakes were ignored in non-language papers. Except for maybe specific terms.
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QUOTE(kangaroo96 @ Sep 24 2013, 07:58 PM)
I spelt some specific terms wrongly too, like names, but just a very minor one.
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What I heard is that nyatakan and state has to be correct to the alphabet
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QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 20 2013, 08:59 PM)
This thread has gotten busy . Where to start ?

For Pendidikan Moral , opinions differ . But the general consensus between examiners is that you can definitely add one and only one extra answer , no more .

For esei , I give one extra nilai . Usually it's rasional because I know it'll be accepted . I write all three esei's , just to be safe , and because I have some spare time .

I answer this way [ recommended by JP Negeri Sembilan ]

Watak + Nilai
Watak + KK1 + Situasi
Contoh
Watak + KK2 + Situasi
Contoh

4 word technique can be used as well , but I've gotten used to the old one .

Example :

Ali mengamalkan nilai rasional . Dia boleh berfikir dengan tidak menghisap rokok . Contohnya , dia tahu bahawa merokok membahayakan kesihatan dan boleh menyebabkan kanser paru-paru . Dia bertindak wajar dengan tidak menghisap rokok . Contohnya , dia menolak pelawaan rakannya untuk merokok walaupun diajak beberapa kali .

My only concern is the 'CONTOH' part . An examiner with 20 years of experience told me that the contoh must be KBKK , we cannot take from the 'stem soalan' . What do you think , and what do your teachers say ?

cucuamazing Heartnsoul laptopgirl kangaroo96 stpxdf88l

As you guys are kinda new here , would you be interested in our Facebook discussion page ? There are 20+ members in there . But a word of caution , that group is inactive , which is kind of disappointing . When I first talked about it many provided their FB names , they wanted to be in the group , but when I added them nobody provided inputs , some asked questions but when we further enquired , they abandoned them . Just thought maybe you guys would be different , based on your posts in this thread . biggrin.gif

By the way , cucuamazing and laptopgirl , I've updated your username on the list . Pretty impressive , both taking a literature subject . I've always wanted to take L.I.E , but meh , no teachers around and I heard that an A+ would prove to be a feat achievable by only the best users of English . Didn't want to take the risk . Have you chosen a theme to concentrate on , like conflicts ?
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Oh sorry, I must have missed this post. Umm...my teacher said that all contoh must be KBKK and all penerangan must "dikaitkan dengan situasi". My class was "wiped out" in the essay part. We got our papers back today and the essay questions involved a title with a few situasi. We all gave contohs based on the situasi and well... vmad.gif

There seems to be multiple ways to answer Moral questions. I have done exercises by my teacher and around 7 modal test(from 2 different sources) so far and all seem to have different answer scopes. doh.gif

By the way, Maxis, your teacher accepted that you used the same penerangan twice?(Ali smoking twice)

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QUOTE(kangaroo96 @ Sep 20 2013, 07:15 PM)
Ya I did that too, I gave 3 nilai for all 3, but he didn't mark the third one(maybe it's because my first and second are correct)

But there was a moral teacher who came to our school and gave us ceramah, she told us to answer all three, same us what my previous teacher told me. My current teacher said examiners will not bother to read the third essay, although we didn't get full mark for the first and second, is that true?
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My moral teacher just came back from a 3 day Kusus(Penang) and she told us the new format is that 3 essays is acceptable. Now, how I'm going to write 3 essays with 3 nilai is another problem. icon_question.gif

QUOTE(chun96 @ Sep 20 2013, 07:47 PM)
Besides P. Moral, what other subjects can we write additional 1 answer?
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Sejarah, just add a "iii)"/"iv)" and write more answers. rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(scribblez16 @ Sep 20 2013, 08:24 PM)
Sejarah, including structured questions. I'm not sure about other subjects  smile.gif Oh, BM Komsas too I think.
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Komsas? blink.gif should ask my teacher about that.
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QUOTE(Screen @ Sep 25 2013, 09:52 PM)
No I mean subjective, for example

Nyatakan cara-cara untuk memelihara alam sekeliling.

i)
ii)

We can write iii), iv), v)?
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QUOTE(sciencefreak @ Sep 25 2013, 11:42 PM)
Use textbook for bio? But the info is pretty scarce.
Thanks, I'll try using that method for sejarah!

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So far I only got results for 7 subjects for my trials.

BM - 82
Add Maths - 88
Maths - 94
Moral - 88
Chem - 77
Bio - 70
Sej - 67
The biggest improvement was basically my moral(From 58 to 88)

My tip for scoring Moral is pretty simple actually.

My strategy is that I NEVER HAFAL DEFINISI

Except for key bidang 1 nilais like Rasional and Bertanggungjawab

Then, For Bidang 2-7,

Just hafal the kata kunci for only 2 nilais for each bidang. This is because most jelaskan/esei questions only ask a max of 2 nilais.

If possible, hafal the nilai with the repeating kata kuncis as they'll make memorising way easier.

For example :
Kempapanan alam sekitar :
-memelihara alam sekitar
-memulihara alam sekitar

And as for the formula, Just follow the one your teacher taught.

The standard formula for esei should be in the format of the following :

Nilai. Watak + Kata Kunci 1. Watak + Contoh 1. Watak + Kata Kunci 2. Watak + Contoh 2

I advice you guys to use this format as my Moral teacher is a guru Cemerlang for Selangor.

I hope this helps you. I used to think that Moral was Impossible. But not anymore! biggrin.gif
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Err...well maybe use the revision book for Bio, but take a look at bio. There are some nice diagrams and stuff there. Your welcome smile.gif
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QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 26 2013, 09:05 PM)
Because the situasi only has one example , Ali menghisap rokok . You can repeat the situasi in your KK Penerangan but never the Contoh's .
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Ah ok, I should have a chat with my Moral teacher, she is confusing at times doh.gif

So, how are your preparations coming along? smile.gif
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QUOTE(kangaroo96 @ Sep 26 2013, 09:35 PM)
This really demotivates me...one more month sad.gif
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All dem feels... cry.gif

QUOTE(Screen @ Sep 26 2013, 10:59 PM)
This may sound crazy but......

I'm waiting for Sejarah tips and leaks  biggrin.gif

Btw, SPM Sejarah Paper 3 tema came out, F5 Bab9!!! Some hubungan diplomatik crap (ASEAN or crap)
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Hmm...my teacher said that the paper should only be out 2 weeks before SPM?

QUOTE(maximR @ Sep 27 2013, 11:17 AM)
Applied for Matriculation . Not expecting much , but I'm interested in knowing how a Lain-lain will fare in getting a place .
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Well, all the best. I applied too but yea, with my 7.5 koko, not expecting much
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As always, my teachers are confusing blink.gif


Anyways, anyone from Penang?

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