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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V36, I can carry 56 liulian. No belip me ah?

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TSV12Kompressor
post Dec 3 2012, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Dec 3 2012, 06:52 PM)
Sudah diperkosa dianiaya? ph34r.gif
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mau aniaya apa? lolz

dad driving it, so confirm wont be as abusive as me... wahahah

This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Dec 3 2012, 06:53 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Dec 3 2012, 01:34 PM)
afternoon...
iska, this MERZ wash, how much to pay per car?

my car 2 month not wash liao...
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2 months tak wash?? shocking.gif
2 days no wash ald jadi warna lain dah ohmy.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Dec 3 2012, 03:13 PM)
Eh confem the Midah entrance near RHB ade durian stall, RM9 eat til you vomit kind.


Added on December 3, 2012, 3:14 pm

Adui topic changed long long time ago lor  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Bila u mau organize?

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 3 2012, 04:18 PM)
i can show you the road tak perlu bayar tol. kenji pun boleh show ma. he's puchong wakil rakyah saga.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Dec 3 2012, 04:27 PM)
coma la merz. later can breakfast sambil wash car. i pun mau jumpa nick mau jual itu ferrari fxx lego.
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Pergi satu kali den tiap tiap kali pun mau pergi..


QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Dec 3 2012, 04:38 PM)
sleep.gif Takde tempat lain nak TT meh?
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Itu tempat selesa ma wub.gif

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Dec 3 2012, 04:46 PM)
nod.gif
confirm jam, no reason at all  laugh.gif
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Where got jam.. Smooth smooth only..
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post Dec 3 2012, 07:44 PM

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caturday go Cheras otofest...

go see some cars...
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post Dec 3 2012, 07:46 PM

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2.0l 210km rm50. Ok la tu. Haha. age of car coming 9 months, rattlings detected~!
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post Dec 3 2012, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Dec 3 2012, 07:46 PM)
2.0l 210km rm50. Ok la tu. Haha. age of car coming 9 months, rattlings detected~!
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Yalo~~~ biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 07:58 PM

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Just got back from minor checkup with my dear Gabby, discovered magician was working on a GEN2 S4PH overhaul. Got overflowed info injected, now trying to digest & share with you guys.

According to magician, the S4P engine was NOT directly moulded from Lotus Esprit(I guessed it wrong,previously I thought it was). however it contain some DNA from that engine, such as tall body, twin cam, strong wall, huge crankshaft & long conrod. Genetically, these kinda engine setup is meant for high power output, very suitable for high compression. Room for expanding horse power is tremendous on S4P.

However, it oso posses its own disadvantage. Long conrod & huge crankshaft is bad for low end torque. It takes more energy to get it move. On the bright side, once its momentum created, less effort is needed to continue its cycle. This also explained earlier Campro tend to have torque dip below 4krpm, which later overcome by the assistance of IAFM.

We've briefly discussed about possibility of improving the Campro characteristic, but we do came to a conclusion, that the IAFM was bad for people who doesn't know how to control their throttle. The assistance of IAFM allowed more A/F induction to overcome the torque dip, which also directly projected on vacuum reading. It is very hard to maintain vacuum from standstill to momentum motion, partly bcoz of the SYSTEM is trying to overcome the torque dip. Whereas after 3krpm, its relatively easier to maintain higher vacuum(less throttle action). By disabling IAFM, extra A/F being taking can be avoided, but torque dip like any other old WAJA/Gen2 is ineminent.

I've understand from this lesson, the Campro S4P engine is made to work with momentum. The higher RPM it goes, more momentum to help ease the pain of sucking too much fuel. I conclude that the S4P family share the similar experience, some has extremely good FC, and minority suffering from it, was generally affected by driving habits/road condition/travel distance. In short, the engine is very suitable for long distance cruising, but the traffic jam itself can really kill its fuel economy. If I make a comparison between my then 4G13 & my S4PE, I believe my Iswaga's engine is much compact with shorter stroke that can easily attain low end torque, which hardly affect my FC despite I was doing a lot of short distance travel.

P/s: the side note, that Gen2 owner claims he's paying around 25cent/km in Sepang region on average basis. I'm glad my GaGa stay slightly below 20cents region despite my travel distance is uber short. I believe GaGa's light weight body contribute to that, and believe it will do well on long distance travel just like any other cars.

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post Dec 3 2012, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Dec 3 2012, 07:46 PM)
2.0l 210km rm50. Ok la tu. Haha. age of car coming 9 months, rattlings detected~!
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Got case first day ald got rattling detected..
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 3 2012, 07:58 PM)
Just got back from minor checkup with my dear Gabby, discovered magician was working on a GEN2 S4PH overhaul. Got overflowed info injected, now trying to digest & share with you guys.

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Peace icon_rolleyes.gif
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I try the method you train me previously..
It's quite hard to maintain in persona cos if press too gradually den underpower..
Press more abit den the rpm will shoot up.. Hahah
But I think the car still new to judge and personally it's still acceptable with daily traffic condition icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by nickzkuso: Dec 3 2012, 08:04 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 3 2012, 08:58 PM)
Just got back from minor checkup with my dear Gabby, discovered magician was working on a GEN2 S4PH overhaul. Got overflowed info injected, now trying to digest & share with you guys.

According to magician, the S4P engine was NOT directly moulded from Lotus Esprit(I guessed it wrong,previously I thought it was). however it contain some DNA from that engine, such as tall body, twin cam, strong wall, huge crankshaft & long conrod. Genetically, these kinda engine setup is meant for high power output, very suitable for high compression. Room for expanding horse power is tremendous on S4P.

However, it oso posses its own disadvantage. Long conrod & huge crankshaft is bad for low end torque. It takes more energy to get it move. On the bright side, once its momentum created, less effort is needed to continue its cycle. This also explained earlier Campro tend to have torque dip below 4krpm, which later overcome by the assistance of IAFM.

We've briefly discussed about possibility of improving the Campro characteristic, but we do came to a conclusion, that the IAFM was bad for people who doesn't know how to control their throttle. The assistance of IAFM allowed more A/F induction to overcome the torque dip, which also directly projected on vacuum reading. It is very hard to maintain vacuum from standstill to momentum motion, partly bcoz of the SYSTEM is trying to overcome the torque dip. Whereas after 3krpm, its relatively easier to maintain higher vacuum(less throttle action). By disabling IAFM, extra A/F being taking can be avoided, but torque dip like any other old WAJA/Gen2 is ineminent.

I've understand from this lesson, the Campro S4P engine is made to work with momentum. The higher RPM it goes, more momentum to help ease the pain of sucking too much fuel. I conclude that the S4P family share the similar experience, some has extremely good FC, and minority suffering from it, was generally affected by driving habits/road condition/travel distance. In short, the engine is very suitable for long distance cruising, but the traffic jam itself can really kill its fuel economy. If I make a comparison between my then 4G13 & my S4PE, I believe my Iswaga's engine is much compact with shorter stroke that can easily attain low end torque, which hardly affect my FC despite I was doing a lot of short distance travel.

P/s: the side note, that Gen2 owner claims he's paying around 25cent/km in Sepang region on average basis. I'm glad my GaGa stay slightly below 20cents region despite my travel distance is uber short. I believe GaGa's light weight body contribute to that, and believe it will do well on long distance travel just like any other cars.

Peace icon_rolleyes.gif
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nice review
my gaga kl city around 0.16-0.17
if full city in ipoh (alot of traffic ligt, 0.18)
highway crusing 120-150 0.13 nod.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:32 PM

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Hi Everyone! notworthy.gif

Juz 2share pic update of my Gaga's new DRLs (with Main H/Lamps ON) taken with controlled exposure...
Many tks to Bro GPMM 4that good advice! thumbup.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

TKs a meg 2all Bros 4previous comments/suggestions!
cheers.gif

This post has been edited by zeone: Dec 3 2012, 08:39 PM
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post Dec 3 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Dec 3 2012, 09:03 PM)
I try the method you train me previously..
It's quite hard to maintain in persona cos if press too gradually den underpower..
Press more abit den the rpm will shoot up.. Hahah
But I think the car still new to judge and personally it's still acceptable with daily traffic condition icon_rolleyes.gif
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easy job
put vs gc pc
then gaodim
ur car fit fit oledi laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 3 2012, 09:16 PM)
easy job
put vs gc pc
then gaodim
ur car fit fit oledi laugh.gif
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif
Re abv, wat is pc?
Kenot b "personal computer", right? tongue.gif

Mayb "power cable"? rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 3 2012, 10:19 PM)
Hi Bro... notworthy.gif
Re abv, wat is pc?
Kenot b "personal computer", right?  tongue.gif

Mayb "power cable"?  rolleyes.gif
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grounding cable =negative cable
so another side is the positive cable
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post Dec 3 2012, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 3 2012, 08:32 PM)
Hi Everyone! notworthy.gif

Juz 2share pic update of my Gaga's new DRLs (with Main H/Lamps ON) taken with controlled exposure...
Many tks to Bro GPMM 4that good advice! thumbup.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

TKs a meg 2all Bros 4previous comments/suggestions!
cheers.gif
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Wow seem same brightness as the h/lmps.
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post Dec 3 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 3 2012, 08:32 PM)
Hi Everyone! notworthy.gif

Juz 2share pic update of my Gaga's new DRLs (with Main H/Lamps ON) taken with controlled exposure...
Many tks to Bro GPMM 4that good advice! thumbup.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

TKs a meg 2all Bros 4previous comments/suggestions!
cheers.gif
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fuh!!! thumbup.gif
RE exposure rate, i only recently discover it blush.gif

btw...
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better or worst? hmm.gif
if worst i will undo the mod...
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 3 2012, 09:22 PM)
grounding cable =negative cable
so another side is the positive cable
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Tks, Bro, 4clarification re pc!! notworthy.gif
So pc is cable fr +ve of Alternator to +ve terminal @ Batt3. tongue.gif

ps. Me rber reading discussion re thick cable eg welding cable c/w fuse used 4abv purpose in V35 IINM.
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Dec 3 2012, 09:30 PM)
Wow seem same brightness as the h/lmps.
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif
Yr shocking.gif (?) comment not sound favourable lo... sweat.gif
So izzit ok or not? icon_question.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 3 2012, 11:04 PM)
Tks, Bro, 4clarification re pc!!  notworthy.gif
So pc is cable fr +ve of Alternator to +ve terminal @ Batt3.  tongue.gif

ps. Me rber reading discussion re thick cable eg welding cable c/w fuse used 4abv purpose in V35 IINM.
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correct biggrin.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 3 2012, 10:07 PM)
Hi Bro... notworthy.gif
Yr  shocking.gif (?) comment not sound favourable lo... sweat.gif
So izzit ok or not?  icon_question.gif
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no worry, this kind of LED wun brighter den headlamp...
its jz the photo effect only...
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Dec 3 2012, 10:44 PM)
no worry, this kind of LED wun brighter den headlamp...
its jz the photo effect only...
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Many Tks, Bro!! thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
That's a lot less 2worry oledi... smile.gif

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