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dasecret
post Mar 6 2016, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Mar 5 2016, 09:57 PM)
Depending on the amount and the TAT you require, you you can have a look at :
1. Overnight deposits,
2. Short term money deposits,
3. Cash management funds,
4. Money market funds.
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How does the returns differ for each type?
I assume overnight deposits is sweeping arrangement that zero effort is needed to decide how much cash flow I'd need and therefore how much I can place for how long. Would the return be much lower than say 7 days time deposit?
Btw, we r very out of topic 😜
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post Apr 1 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Kobis Bunga @ Apr 1 2016, 01:00 PM)
What is pros and cons between FSM and eUT phillips mutual..

Currently from my POV, seem FSM more woth taking/opt.
Any insight from sifu/otai highly appreciated.

IMHO, i prefer do DIY+some reading rather than go to agent...
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I'm using FSM too and don't have a eUT account
Very simple, when I go to eUT website, it doesn't give me the confidence that this platform would exist in the next 5 years... it look amateur-ish and it seems the people running it is not serious to be in the e-commerce business

But the choice is personal, if your objective is lowest SC, then eUT promo is 0% whereas FSM has more user support which is what I wanted and for a low price too...
Anyway, so far my experience with FSM is good
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post Apr 17 2016, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 17 2016, 09:58 AM)
what is the meaning of "for sophisticated investors"?  hmm.gif
wa ah beng, wa boh sopisticake...can buy boh?
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The definition here is measured by networth and experience with financial products

So if abeng apek who is very loaded, sure can buy la. But if lose money don't go crying n complain to SC and BNM. Cos sophisticated investors can handle losses n risk on their own
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post Jun 10 2016, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Jun 10 2016, 04:49 PM)
Hi guys,

I'm new to this and doesn't own any UT for Mutual fund. May I know is this the right time to invest? I make some searching for CIMB UT (easier for me as i'm using this bank) and it seems like the fund doesn't seems to grow much but dropping. What do you think?
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Hop over to the fundsupermart thread to see all the actions on funds. There are quite a lot of folks here who DIY their mutual fund investment instead of getting from agents or banks
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3892713

Alternatively you can pay agent to buy, public mutual and CIMB Wealth advisor I would seriously advise against because their funds are not doing great in the past few years and the sales charge is steep

Okla, if there are agents who can distribute funds from various fund house and set up a proper portfolio maybe it's worthwhile paying sales charge for. Especially if you are not into doing much homework to understand how to DIY.
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post Sep 7 2016, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Sep 7 2016, 12:38 PM)
hi guys, looking to buy Unit trust fund. i just need to click buy from Imoney then someone will contact and consult me ? anyone using this https://www.eunittrust.com.my?
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Imoney portal is powered by fundsupermart >> https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/home/index.svdo?
I have not gone through Imoney, but I would imagine it'll just take you to fundsupermart.

There's an active thread on fund investment, primarily through fundsupermart here >> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4047177 and all its previous versions

Hop over and read/ask questions there. This thread not so active and you may not get timely response

Oh, on eunittrust, some people use it too, mainly due to 0% sales charge promo, but I don't like the website and user interface. I find fundsupermart is a lot more informative

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post Oct 7 2016, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 7 2016, 03:10 PM)
but here is different story when the data was started approximate  1 year later from your post (Oct 2006~Oct 2016)
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Well done boss... When I saw that photo I thought it doesn't make sense. Unless that fund made like 200% in Oct 2005-Oct2006; otherwise I cannot imagine how it can be so different
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post Oct 7 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 7 2016, 04:42 PM)
doh.gif i just dun't know what to say when i further dig in... shocking.gif
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Again, well done!

Now we need to ask the poster what is the source and write to that newspaper to notify them of the mistake
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post Oct 17 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Oct 17 2016, 03:26 PM)
RHB Asian Income fund
United Asean Discovery Fund
Affin Hwang Selected Asia Fund

Good?
Based on the records seems ok, but i am really not very experience in this.
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What is your basis of selecting these funds?

What is your asset allocation strategy? How many % equity and fixed income? How many % in each geographical segment?

RHB Asian Income fund is very popular in the FSM thread; the other 2 I'm not so familiar. Affin has quite a number of select asia fund, quantum is the most popular one

But one should not buy into a fund due to its sheer popularity but what you need really
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post Dec 1 2016, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Nov 30 2016, 02:44 PM)
Newcomer to unit trust world here.

Can recommend me a fund that is moderate and for mid-long term (5-10 yrs)?  Heard Public Mutual has the highest service fee rate, is it true?  Should I stay away from Pub Mutual at all costs?  A friend keeps recommending me something called small-cap fund.   

And also, is it better to put in lump sum or monthly as suggested by a friend?

Appreciate advise.
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I may be wrong but I think they only open the Public Small Cap for subsription for a short period of time few months back. It's now closed again. That's one of the best performing fund available on Public Mutual.

No point for me to tell you which fund house is good. Try look at http://iportfolio.com.my/ or morningstar

QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 30 2016, 06:53 PM)
Yes PB mutual is the best.
Since u going for long term, the fee will become insignificant.
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Are you being sarcastic actually? I couldn't quite tell
It's true that fees become insignificant if you are in for the long term. so I still pay more attention to returns than fees

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 1 2016, 09:38 AM)
Tell that to dasecret
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Tag me again? confused.gif
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post Apr 11 2017, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(tryifelsecatch @ Apr 11 2017, 08:21 PM)


but 1 thing i don't quite understand is... this is a product from Prudential (eastspring investment), what are the benefit buying through the bank? vs buying from prudential?
i ask that question and the manager said buy from bank safer because a bank is a bank while prudential is an insurance company afterall.. i am not sure about this part.
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Wow, this bank manager is unbelievable. Why don't you ask him, if he say it's safer to buy from the bank than the issuer, does that mean that the bank will pay him back east spring investment or the fund close shop?

Ultimately I think the crucial thing that he might not have covered or emphasized is, buying unit trust vs fixed deposit has a fundamental difference. Unit trust may show you indicative returns of 5% or more, but it's not capital guaranteed. You might end up earning 0% and even lose some of your capital. Yes, less likely for bond fund, but it can happen. Just in last November most of the local bond funds a few %. They r back in the black now, annualized return is lower compared to say a year ago. Whereas fixed deposit as everyone knows, is capital guaranteed and PIDM insured for certain amount.

That small risk there is the reason why the indicative return is higher. No one can help you decide if that's a risk worth taking. If you do decide that you can stomach that risk, there r lots of bond funds that has less sales charge and no early redemption penalty for you to choose from. Getting 5% is not difficult at all
You can start here actually
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...arch-2017--8077
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post Apr 11 2017, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(tryifelsecatch @ Apr 11 2017, 09:44 PM)
thanks for your input dude. yeah... it appears to me he is trying a bit too hard to sell this. i said so because we identified clearly we are coming for the 4.35% 5 years FD. but through out the 20mins talk, he just push down FD and end of talk also never talk about the FD which is a promotion from the bank until end of Apr.

now i need to make a decision in helping my mom with her FD, i was thinking maybe a 70:30 ratio of FD:Fund. if we were to buy bond, money market fund.. and we have no experience and llimited knowledge about fund. what is the advice for us to buy fund? i understand there will be charge to find an agent, so which agencie, bank do you guys recomend? thanks again!
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The site from link I attach is where you can get everything done. You don't need agent or bank actually. The site doesn't charge sales charge and only charges 0.2% platform fees for using their platform. If you prefer to talk to someone they have client investment specialists who can explain to you investment strategy n all too

The truth is, you may have difficulty finding agent or banker who would sell you just bond funds since commission is lower for them. Most likely they would try to convince you to buy some equity fund so they make more


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post Apr 12 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(tryifelsecatch @ Apr 11 2017, 11:50 PM)
thanks a lot for the input. i am probably start off trying their portfolio simulator
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Glad to be of help. This thread is not so active as most of us hang out in https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4193169 for DIY fund investment
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post Aug 18 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Aug 18 2017, 08:49 AM)
Philips mutual vs fsm, which place to buy unit trust better and why?
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Personally I prefer FSM, go to both sites and you tell me who you want to put your money with

 

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