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Ramjade
post Apr 18 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 18 2018, 11:36 AM)
Any idea or rough estimates if this is more cost effective than the fsm sg maps/Sg managed port?
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Depends lo. FSM is 0.5%p.a. Also depends if the FSMhold onto funds which can beat the index. If they hold onto funds which cannot beat index, better to stick with index investing.

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post Apr 20 2018, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(ongtomato @ Apr 20 2018, 03:38 PM)
Have anyone tried it in Malaysia?
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Malaysia don't know about it cause no one in Malaysia invest in ETF.
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post Apr 20 2018, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ Apr 20 2018, 04:37 PM)
i have no idea, but 1 question..these are ETF or UT?
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Those are algorithms which invest in ETFs.
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post Apr 20 2018, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ Apr 20 2018, 05:08 PM)
thanks..
algorithms = "fund manager" we used to describe in FSM?

Btw ETF Malaysia not active..
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Algorithm = computer program which does everything automatically following the rules created by humans without any emotion.

This don't invest in Malaysia ETFs. doh.gif doh.gif These invest in US ETFs.
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post Apr 20 2018, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(ongtomato @ Apr 20 2018, 06:34 PM)
Looking for anyone who has tried robo-advisor in malaysia (other than Algebra).
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Good luck. In Malaysia, robo advisor is not popular.
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(M_Shahrul @ Apr 23 2018, 10:00 PM)
Hye all. Noob here.
My friend approached me and introduced about Phillip Mutual.
I asked him, its not like Im too eager to be a millionaire, but is it possible if I dump in RM1,000 this month, its gonna be RM1,200 next month.
Which means ++RM200 is already good enough for me. No need to be multiplied 2-3 times until RM3,000.
He said impossible. But 10% yearly could be. Means to get RM100, I need 12 months in unit trust for RM1,000.
Is it true what he said? Repeat, Phillip Mutual.
Or Public Mutual is much much more lucrative. Just asking by the way. Im a noob. Thanks, brothers here.
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Please understand the difference between Phillip Mutual and public mutual doh.gif Phillip mutual is basically a place where they sell you various unit trust from various fund house. What is a fund house? Fund house are companies which have their own mutual funds/unit trust (Public mutual, Cimb principal, Kenanga, Eastpsring, etc)
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Yes getting 10%p.a is doable but you need to know which unit trust to pick. Majority of the unit trust sold cannot even outperform amanah saham fixed price fund.
Avoid public mutual at all cost as their unit trust are under performing when you compare with their peers like Kenanga, cimb principal, etc.

Of course choosing the wrong unit trust = better to put to put your money in FD instead biggrin.gif

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post May 2 2018, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(chilskater @ May 1 2018, 11:58 PM)
Avoid Public Mutual?i hv only PIDF. Is it ok buy another PMutual fund?or sell half back to KWSP?and reinvest again in other fund house?
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Depend on what you want and your risk level. Are those funds giving you the deserve returns? Remember, if you are investing using EPF money, it must be able to beat EPF return of 6%p.a. Did it return you 6% or lesser? If yes, how does it compare with similar funds from other house?
Eg PIDF returns only 7% vs fund house B which give 10%p.a return. Of course fund B is superior.

You must also see during bad time, how much is PIDF being sold down vs any fund B. The lower the amount of losses taken by the fund, the better.

These are all questions you have to answer yourself. For me, public mutual have never really beaten the other fund house performance hence better for me to avoid them totally.

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post May 2 2018, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(chilskater @ May 2 2018, 01:52 AM)
Agreed with you..that why i am planning to switch to Eastspring and Kenanga..thanks
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If you want to move into kenanga, or east spring, recommend you use FSM rather than open an account with each fund house. Cheaper. BTW the only good fund kenanga have is their kenanga growth fund. The rest sucks.
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post May 8 2018, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(clatch @ May 8 2018, 09:59 AM)
Oh yeah ETF works too, do you know where I can get access to them?
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They are found in the country exchange that they are listed like NYSE, NASDAQ, LSE, HKeX.
You can buy using local brokers. Super expensive. Not worth your time and money. ETF investing is about minimising cost.

Some cheap broker to think about
- 8 securities based on HK (zero commission)
- Exante broker based on EU
- Interactive broker based in US (have monthly fee if amount <USD100k)
- Standard chartered SG (hard to get as SG govt kind of weary with Malaysians)
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post May 11 2018, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(clatch @ May 9 2018, 10:55 AM)
Hey man thanks for responding!
I'm kinda just looking for something like this - http://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-...-c-accumulation
Like an index tracker that's super low cost. Not sure if that's possible in Malaysia or what the closest alternative it?
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Just buy your own ETF. No need to buy funds which track ETF. No you don't have such access in Malaysia.

QUOTE(vamsi7 @ May 11 2018, 12:05 AM)
Thanks for this useful thread for this guys.
I am just starting to look into unit trusts.

How does unit trust lock-in period look like? how's the liquidity compared to like say stocks?
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There's no lock in. You need to wait like 3 days before the fund is shown in your holdings and about 1 week to get your money back. When buying a unit trust, the fund manager hae the responsiility to buy back from you when you sell. If he/she/they can't meet the cash payment, they have to sell their holdings to pay you. That's why during a crisis, as price of stocks plunge, investors panic, and demand to sell their holdings. The fund manager have no choice but to sell the fund at a loss to payback investors. Hence causing the price of stocks to drop further. Remember, unit trust is still basically a basket of stocks so normal stock rules apply to them as well.

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post May 13 2018, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(vamsi7 @ May 12 2018, 10:25 PM)
Thanks. very useful info.
What about the risks involved? Any scenarios where I lose money?
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Risk? If you buy at a peak and say 2008 repeat its, it will repeat itself, the question is when.
Can you stomach a 30-50% drop in your investment value? Day by day seeing the % of loss increasing.
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post Jun 19 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Jun 19 2018, 09:20 AM)
Looking at Public Mutual too as a beginner, but let's say I open up an account via Public Mutual Online and did investment on my own without going through an agent, is this wise?
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QUOTE(ehwee @ Jun 19 2018, 11:55 AM)
Is public mutual allow us to do investment online without engage an agent in first?

I mean without need to have agent and paying for agent fee?

Can anyone confirm?
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Avoid public mutual. DIY yourself via FSM MY or POEMS SG
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post Jul 20 2018, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Jul 18 2018, 09:29 AM)
The eunittrust philips money market doesn't credit in the interest daily unlike rhb cash management fund 2, right?
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Eunittrust money market fund is forced at 0.5 NAV. Dividend will be credited on a monthly basis without drop in NAV.

QUOTE(SgtScoop @ Jul 19 2018, 07:39 PM)
I'm a follower of Dave Ramsey and on his advice I've been looking at investing in mutual funds.

I see the small cap funds have been having a hard time of it lately but have been great performers over the past 10 years. They seem to have rallied a bit recently so I'm not sure whether it's a good time to invest or not.

I know the stock market is unpredictable but what's the short term outlook for small caps?

I'm looking at passively investing in small caps for my retirement (hopefully, 15 years away).
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Mat salleh people use etf indexing.
Their 4 funds basically consist of one home fund usually s&p500
world index etf which is 50% heavy in US
One bond fund.
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post Jul 20 2018, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 20 2018, 09:18 AM)
er.. i think U better read Dave Ramsey's book first, since forumer stated he's following the 7 baby steps, before commenting generically.
small caps & others of it's ilk in S&P500? U kidding right?
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Actually based on bogle head recommendation of 3 funds.
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post Jul 20 2018, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 20 2018, 10:18 AM)
"Actually".. sigh.
Fellow forumer's Q was based on Dave Ramsey's 7 Baby Steps lar dei
NOT boggle head's neh
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3 - 4 fund sound like bogle head. And mat salleh people like their etf so much.
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post Aug 23 2018, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Aug 23 2018, 04:14 PM)
Hey guys, starting my venture into unit trust and want to ask what fund provider is best?

Best in terms of returns (fund manager performance on similar portfolios), fees (service charge, management fee), perks (e.g. privilege membership benefits), available funds, etc?

Planning to stick with one or two fund providers for next 40 years at least. Goal with unit trust is to generate medium and long-term wealth and passive income for house, marriage, retirement, etc. Will appreciate if the fund providers have account managers who will ring me to inform me of opportunities - essentially something I can let someone else do while I focus on my day job and family.
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Never pick fund based on fund house brand. Very bad choice.

Fund manager change every now and then. Don't give your loyalty to the fund house.

No one is going to ring you if there's opportunities if you go the FSM way That's what agents suppose to do but of course we know majority of the agents only look after their own pockets...
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post Feb 27 2019, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Fledgeling @ Feb 27 2019, 04:33 PM)
Anyone tried investing in RHB Multi-currency account?

https://www.rhbgroup.com/products-and-servi...urrency-account
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Not worth as you are buying and selling at bank's rate and banks make a killing from their rates
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post Feb 27 2019, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Fledgeling @ Feb 27 2019, 09:41 PM)
Thank you Ramjade, I really appreciate the perspective.

What's a good way to invest in foreign currency then (not through bank)?
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Invest in export stocks as earn their money in USD.
Another way is this.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4744515


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post Mar 11 2023, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(jwgs0010 @ Mar 11 2023, 02:31 PM)
Which one recommended? FSmone? Only on Phillip due to the frequent 0% promo thing but depending on the outcome of this, considering.
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If you are buying prs any platform.

If you are buying unit trust FSM.got Bette rinterface. I know poems just change their interface recently. Have to call in to tell them you don't want agent. For me my poems no agent also.

If you want access to better fund, poems sg.
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post Mar 11 2023, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(jwgs0010 @ Mar 11 2023, 06:48 PM)
I manage to get account reset just before end of operation hour, the manager of this agent said will assign another new agent to assist me next week. I have can file report bla2 and they will take official action once report received or I can settle with the agent privately?! Welp, I am not sure if this is appropriately handled, but there must be some serious SOP issues which provide the loophole. Manager sounds a bit dodgy, I think he is suggesting to settle down quietly, probably not gonna explain to me in details of the loophole. What would you do up to this point?

Whats the difference : FSM managed account portfolio vs Stashaway ?
poems = Phillip Capital Sdn Bhd (A member of PhillipCapital Group of companies)

phillip mutual eunittrust = Phillip Mutual Berhad (A member of PhillipCapital Group of companies)

are they different, backend? rclxub.gif

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Sidenote: Is there a different thread or other forums where I can ask for more opinions? Thanks!
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Avoid both FSM managed portfolio and stashaway. Returns not that good. Better to just buy sp500 etf

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