Already the cracks are showing/forming on the walls.....

If Ubisoft thinks that people need to download the new Chapter just to be able to play with others , this will make that little splinter becomes a major break on the tree branch. A lot have voiced disappointment to this, why cant those without the Chapter 2 DLC play with those who had it? Subversively "forcing" others to get the DLC just so that they can connect to their friends? This is appaling.....

yeah, today suddenly alot of USA guy come playing with us. probably because they cannot connect to other US host that got Chapter 2.

And that will cause lag, since latency between disntanced out regions are introduced.

It seems fine by those of us who play within the confines of friends in LYN forums, we can find each other and join each other's games when we want to. But when the time comes when you want to join a game through the lobby, and see your options dwindling away, since you dont download this DLC, how do you feel? Already the online lobby spits you out into the lobby whenever a loose/weak connection couldnt hold you in the game session any longer.....now you have to pick within the already splintered group, since you dont have XYZ DLC?

Hear me out. What happens to Mr. Average Joes who wants so much to join theexcitement of GRAW online, only to stick on him requirements of downloading separate chapters/DLCs, which are hundreds of MBs large (think our Streamyx line here, how long to get that?), and having to pay through the nose for this, either via credit card or having to hunt down for the elusive MS Points subscription cards? Eventually, this guy gets fed up at all the obstacles presented in his way, in able to properly enjoy his GRAW online, and dumps the game altogether. Seems plausible?

Im not shooting GRAW here, in fact i was majorly recommending it after those enjoyable hours we had last time completing Chapter 1 on Co-op. I remember it as one of those "Band of Brothers" moment. But there wasnt any motivation to revisit those maps again, once you've unlocked the achievement , other than helping others getting the same achievement as well. And now Ubisoft is splintering us? If Player A gets too frustrated and cannot join a game session because he refuses, by principle, to download the DLC, he ismore likely to put his GRAW copy in the backburner and forget about the game, than allowing himself be forced down the throat by Ubisoft to buy the DLC "just so that he's able to play with this friends in this game again". Didnt we all pay RM200 for our Xbox Live Gold subscription, why do we have to go through this again, this time by this despicable act by Ubisoft?

Hmmmm... after long disputes and much consideration given, i have decided to pullout from this update. GoodBye GRAW

This post has been edited by vivaldi: Jun 24 2006, 07:41 AM

Wait so if say someone with C2 hosts a game, let's say Team Elimination, then people without C2 can't join even though it's not Co-Op Campaign Mode?

If that's the case:
WTF UBISOFT?!

This post has been edited by MobiusVyper: Jun 24 2006, 07:50 AM

thx to tmnuts.... from yesterday 6pm till now, stop DL at 12am to 2:30am to play COD2. only finish 46%.... great...

Finally downloaded the content, takes nearly 14 hours to download

Erm.. can someone make a list of all the GRAW-ers who is going for C2 please? (including SG GRAW-ers like step1314, evopower, firdaus, etc.)

MY
(1) zerg1008 - downloaded
(2) terranova - downloaded
(3) ChisaKatana - d/loading
(4) chinsc - d/loading
(5) xboxnerd - d/loading
(6) ronanspy - d/loading 24%
(7) QuakerMY (alkt) - will download
(8) PrivateJohn - will download
(9) I MK84 I - will download
(10) wcliang - status unknown - last heard swearing it's expensive
(11) thomassux - pondering

SG
(1) step1314 - downloaded
(2) killerway - downloaded
(3) copperheadBOB - downloaded
(4) elson - downloaded
(5) firdaus - d/loading
(6) RafflesSG - d/loading
(7) whoam1 - d/loading

Will update as we go along.

p/s : sorry ronanspy did not see your other thread when I did the above list.

This post has been edited by terranova: Jun 24 2006, 01:20 PM

Have not played any games on the new maps. Last night we just explored the maps like tourist, stop to smell the flowers, climb the ship, cranes, picnic at the bungalow, etc.

The new maps are huge. Will be tough playing hide n seek with few players. Lots of hiding spots, hidden corners and undulating jungle folliage for camo.

Some maps have wide open spaces that you will have to make full use of available huts/rocks/box/crates/whatever for cover.

Team Battle has AI team-mates that help fill up the space in the huge maps.

Its okay. better to have this list on this thread.
TMnut s**ck.... still d/laoding........

last nite really fun rocket launcher nite

can't stop laughing when hitman kill himself when try to shoot opponent

ya, he really need to consider other profession instead of hitman.
killerway and me was doing too many double kills it seem like we're couple.

too bad thomas. we continue our bazooka war in chromehounds. and i'll always need your help for PDZ co-op.

my download finish already
i believe cruxader and evopower also download it.
btw liang, see you yesterday download something after GRAWing, download what?

So... any game tonight?

we been playing it everynite.
but now look for liang or thomas for a match.....

MY
(1) zerg1008 - downloaded
(2) terranova - downloaded
(3) ChisaKatana - downloaded
(4) chinsc - d/loading
(5) xboxnerd - d/loading
(6) ronanspy - d/loading 34%
(7) stringfellow - d/loading
(8) QuakerMY (alkt) - will download
(9) PrivateJohn - will download
(10) I MK84 I - will download
(11) liangwc - status unknown - last heard swearing it's expensive
(12) thomassux - pondering

SG
(1) step1314 - downloaded
(2) killerway - downloaded
(3) copperheadBOB - downloaded
(4) elson - downloaded
(5) TheCruXader - downloaded
(6) firdaus - d/loading
(7) RafflesSG - d/loading
(8) whoam1 - d/loading
(9) evopower - d/loading

This post has been edited by terranova: Jun 24 2006, 07:33 PM

What's the time?

Sigh......

*flushes his remaining 1200 MS Points down Ubi's way.....goddamnit, those points were for SFII! *

It's hard enough to find a single old-school maps game session now, and now you're phased out of DLC2 sessions as well. Well done Ubisoft, you've subverted me into getting this, albeit forcefully.

I hope this does not open the floodgate for greedy developers to do the same thing about their games in the future. *looks in the direction of Gears of War, hell, even the new Prey and F.E.A.R* I sincerely hope that they wouldnt think that it's OKAY for them to release half a$$ed games, and release patches and game contents they couldnt include last minute because of deadline contraints. The main reason why this had to be done for me is due to the splintering of the game, and i feel much safer on the bigger splinter than the smaller one. Yes, that makes me feel dirty like im Ubi's b**** or something, but i dont want to be left out playing alone.

Im in.......*proceeds to retch and vomit, while furiously scrubbing himself off the feeling of being dirty*

@ string - welcome to the mud-bath. we're feeling equally dirty, but at least we'll rinse it out together in co-op.

Thanks, terra. I hope we all make full use of this map, and play the hell out of it, just to get our money's worth. I dont want the interest to fizzle out after a few weeks of play only.

What worries me though is that, there are reports from Teamxbox and Xbox.com forums that the new maps are glitchy, and with the update you applied (when you start the game, not when you buy Chapter 2), makes the game crashes more often.