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aressandro10
post Nov 26 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Menck @ Nov 26 2012, 03:08 PM)
tu psl nk sokong bolasepak Malaysia ni kena ada tahap ketabahan yang tinggi..cam member aku, mmg maki x hingat bila Msia men teruk lagi smlm, rase de tempias air liur kena org depan..xpi yg respectnye ke stadium jgk tiap2 kali game.
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Susah jugakla. Tapi lagi susah safiq rahim nak blatih btolkan passing dia supaya tak merapu lagi dalam masa 2 hari.

Kalau die fail fan pon fail jugak. Sama je la.

So kekawan, buktikan korang lagi bagus dari safiq rahim. Dan kutuk player live kat stadium lagi syok dari kutuk depan tv.
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post Nov 26 2012, 04:52 PM

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Rugi btol hmc dah jadi cam sekang. Setakat jadi chatroom je.

Byk potential dalam tu.

Aku dah sugggest tutup ke chatbox tu. Biar jadi real forum macam kat sini.

Sebab ilmu kat chatbox ilang cantu je.
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post Nov 26 2012, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Nov 26 2012, 04:42 PM)
Nak nangis kebenda gaji season depan 3 orang kat atas tuh dah triple..

Aku rasa playing for national is not strong enough motivation for them, not anymore.
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Cuba bayangkan lepas aff rajagobal quit dan join johor.

Fuu. Memang panaslah sek sek kito tongue.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 05:09 PM

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Jangan memain rekod rajagobal dgn club team pon bagus gak. Even time die takde resouce ngan kelantan. Time ngan selangor pon ok jugak.
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post Nov 26 2012, 06:51 PM

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harap muka players lepas match boleh memuaskan hati semua orang.

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post Nov 26 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Nov 26 2012, 08:21 PM)
Nak support, support la. Tapi jgn sampai nak jadi radical sgt. Isu anjing tu maybe to some people isnt that offensive, but in a muslim world, its almost the same as being called pigs tbh. And being called that, tak sedar ke yg kau panggil anjing sedare kau sendiri tu? Pakai otak sikit la. Yes of course all these support is solely for the national team and not a political or racial issue be it of the same race. Tapi bile mati, nak mati sbg org Islam jugak kan? Sedar la sikit, Ultras ni pon form bile team Malaysia da di ambang kemenangan. So can't really expect anything more really if all these were form only when Malaysia started to win. 
And to people who say that its normal in a football game. Its not. And who is it for you to say it is just by watching foreign football on your telly at home? 

This is actually isn't just a football problem. This is a social problem. How many Malaysians come back fro abroad with a fake accent and compare that to other nationalities? What Malaysia is experiencing is an identity crisis that has been long seen. Kalau nak follow pon, ade ke org Jepun or org Korea yg suport their own football team act like that? Kata dasar pandang ke timur tapi nak follow jugak italian fans or hooligans yang lagi jauh. Kira mcm lg power la kan kalau follow all these western fans? Baru menang 4 tahun da mcm menang semuenye. Singapore and Thailand menang piala Asean 3 kali tak de pon nak bangga sgt 
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My point is, we have morals. Stick to it. We have our own identity. Stick to it. Why should we copy other people and think they're normal? 
Whatever it is, i still respect the Ultras. For what they're doing, for all the time, sweat and pain in doing what they love, and ultimately it is much much better than supporting foreign clubs and being their ultimate fan imo. But I think i've been taught enough to not mock excessively our brothers who are muslim, no matter what nationality the guy is. Yes mocking is part and parcel but to call dog and kill them off even in a non-literal sense is excessive to a brother.
Minta maaf kalau ade tersinggung mane2 perasan and for bringing this topic back up, Im sorry.
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You are cool bro.

But ultras motive have always been to make the opponents supporter butthurt.


And judging by your post it worked


Insiders tip : you can only defeat them if strong enouh to not care. Like your players did.

And ramai org mesia pon tak setuju.

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post Nov 26 2012, 09:20 PM

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Aku no problem pasal banter tu.

Kalau seribu org indon cakap mesia anjing depan muka aku pon boleh tahan.

Tapi kalau derang kejar ngan parang memang aku lari la.

Kalau boleh yg aku nak ubah pasal chanting adalah time dapat set piece. Aku rasa time tu fan akan lebih membantu kalau satu stadium complete silense. Bagi focus.

The oppoosite time player lawan plak ambik. Kene bising secara berkecamuk. Kalau nak tiup vuvuzela time ni la

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post Nov 26 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(glitterRAMEE @ Nov 26 2012, 09:16 PM)
rajagopal memang bodoh.. kalau nak blame individu, blame diri sendiri la

ni mesti sebab bengang apek buat PC pasal nak kawin hari tu

buat salah sikit terus kena tuding jari cakap tak fokus la ape jadah la
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Aduh. Lepas ni tetiba apek plak tetiba saya tak bersedia plok.
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(louneas @ Nov 26 2012, 10:52 PM)
Sokong!

RG dont deserve to take all the blame .

Yang aku xpaham dengan DIE HARD FANS Malaysia ni, bila menang , bersorak habis , bila kalah even perkara details yang x ada kena mengena pun masuk sekali .

Terimalah kenyataan ni sampai nak blok2 bas tu apa cite?

Macamlah kita third time defending champion, baru kalah satu games, dah nak menggelabah?
suruh RG down?.
Apa ingat bila sack RG, Malaysia boleh menang World Cup 2018 apa?

Hire world class coach pun kalau x kena cara dengan player x guna jugak.

Malaysia baru juara AFF 2010 la bang ..
No wonder, kenapa performance down. PRESSURE.

Tekanan nak mempertahankan cup tersebut, punca utama kenapa gagal team malaysia perform well.

1.  FAM bagi tekanan pada jurulatih dan staff2. This cup is ours!!

2. RG and his mens bagi tekanan pada pemain2.  No matter what, we must win the game !!

3. Pemain = ???
Aku x nampak sorg pun yang betul2 tenang game smlm, kecuali matyo, mahali. TENANG + CONFIDENCE is good.
Now wonder Malaysia main cantik waktu frenly gn arsenal,mancity,chelshit. = no pressure at all.
No wonder Malaysia boleh menang AFF dua tahun lepas, even naik baracuda = no pressure at all, we just underdog.

RG dan pemainya tidak mempunyai tekanan walau sedikitpun pada edisi lalu.

Jadi pendapat aku, faktor tekanan nak pertahankan cup tu punca kenapa performance down.
p/s : dok dengar bench teriak, cepat2!, laju2! sian kuna
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:24 PM

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http://www.ultrasmalaya.net/2012/11/sila-b...rhenti.html?m=1

otai ultras yang paling cool.

Sila bertenang dan berhenti bergaduh


Sakit hati jugak kan bila dah kena 3 - 0? Aku ingat lagi, first match AFF 2010, kita kena titik dengan Indonesia 5 - 1. Seminggu aku demam. Sekarang ni kena pulak dengan Singapura, aku dah tak berenti sakit kepala. Dari sakit hati bawak kepada sakit badan. Tapi aku tak mau cerita pasal game semalam. Aku pun sakit hati dengan coach jugak sebenarnya dan rasa dia kena letak jawatan lepas AFF ni biar menang atau kalah. Tapi benda dah lepas, dan aku pun bukannya ada lesen coaching AFC. Nak mengaku pundit, jadinya pundek.

Aku nak cerita pasal satu hobi penyokong bolasepak Malaysia ni. Lepas kalah besar ataupun kalah mengejut, mesti semua buat benda ni; bergaduh sesama sendiri dan cari salah masing-masing. Eh, aku cakap hobi ke? Maksud aku penyakit. Cuba ingat balik hujung tahun sudah, kelayakan olimpik Malaysia lawan Bahrain. Kalah 2 - 3 walaupun mula-mula leading 2 - 0. Esoknya ramai pulak yang kutuk Ultras Malaya "weh korang bingai ke apa sokong lepas dah kalah macam tu?!" "korang ni tau undang-undang bola ke idok?!" dan sebagainya. Maksud aku, kutuk dekat Facebook, pakai akaun gambar perempuan separuh bogel, nama akaun pakai kata nama am; Hati Besi, Perwira Nujum, Tiang Pasak macam tulah. Pendek kata kutuk tak ada telor. Lepas tu mula la geng ultras mengamuk, nak defend maruah yang tercalar di alam maya. Aku secara peribadi memang tak ambik port benda-benda Facebook ni. Semuanya page gila nak jadi admin sebenarnya. "LIKE KALAU X, SHARE KALAU XX. KALAU IGNORE ANDA GAY DENGAN PRESIDEN FAM HIKHIK" Ehh fakkyuu lahh.

Sekarang pun dah jadi balik lepas semalam. Mulalah orang persoalkan benda sama, dengan tambahan isu baru pulak. Kami menganjingkan lawan, sampai lawan semangat nak menang (dafuq?) Eh lepas satu, satu lah. Kami tau anda semua upset dah kalah, dan orang bila dah keciwa, selalunya mesti nak cari kambing hitam buat lepas geram. Lumrah manusia tu. Tapi cuba fikir betul-betul. Benda yang kami buat semalam, benda yang sama je kami buat match sebelum-sebelum ni. Masa tu tak ada orang kecoh sangat pun. Jadi kenapa bila dah kalah semalam, baru jadi isu? Haaa. Sabar abang abang pakcik pakcik makcik kakak semua. Tarik nafas dalam dalam. Kita nak team professional, kita penyokong pun kena pro jugak. Jangan la kalah sekali mula nak salahkan benda yang tak berkaitan. Kami pun sakit hati jugak. Tapi takkan pasal kalah sekali mula nak berpecah, bergaduh? Alahaaaiiii. Semua ke stadium, bendera yang sama, warna pun sama. Kalau benda yang kami buat ni anda tak setuju, anggap je yang skop tugas kami ni lain dengan skop kerja anda, walaupun bawah jabatan yang sama. Dan sekarang ni, kerja kita tak habis lagi ni, perasan tak? Ada dua match lagi. Percayalah, kalau kita buat kerja masing-masing push budak-budak tu sama coach, tak mustahil dua dua game tu kita boleh tapau. Yang penting, anda penyokong Malaysia lain buat kerja anda, dan jangan kacau dan persoalkan kami Ultras Malaya buat kerja kami. Kalau nak join kami, tak ada masalah.

Dan tu tak bermaksud yang kami ni pun perfect. Aku pelik, hari ni bukak Facebook, bersusun-susun dekat newsfeed member-member ultras maki coach siap buat hashtag lagi. NOPE. Terus aku log out. Demoralising betul. kita kena faham, yang menyokong team tu memang kerja kita sahaja. Tak ada orang lain dah nak buat. Maki dan marah tu kerja fans lain. Tambah-tambah time kalah. Jangan dibuat kerja orang lain. Mari fikir. Kalau kita pon join baek punya kutuk, agaknya ada lagi tak siapa-siapa yang tinggal nak sokong team dalam stadium tu? Korang nak ke jadi balik macam Malaysia lawan Mengyu 2009, satu stadium penuh merah? Lagi satu, kalau orang lain nampak korang yg mengaku ultras ni dah lose hope, apa diorang fikir? "Aiseh, mamat Ultras ni pun dah givap, buat apa aku nak sokong Malaysia lagi?" Dah tak datang stadium dah... So cukup-cukupla tu kutuk hari ni je.

Dan harap-harapnya yang mengaku ultras tu, yang dari atas sampai ke bawah pakai merch UM07 tu, tak ada yang pasang niat hilang dari stadium ye lawan Laos dengan Indonesia nanti. Buat malu mak bapak je perangai itu macam. Dan cukup-cukup la tu bertekak dengan orang kat Facebook tu nak pertahan maruah bila kena kutuk. Benda kat Facebook tu tak membuktikan apa-apa, tambah-tambah zaman tak ada ISA ni. Orang boleh tulis macam macam.

Okla. Kepala aku dah sakit lain macam. Maknanya petanda baik ni match lepas-lepas ni akan ada improvement. Untuk semua geng ultras dan fans Malaysia lain, cuba fahami ayat ni:

"SESEORANG MANUSIA HEBAT ITU TIDAK DINILAI KETIKA DIA DI ATAS SAHAJA, DIA JUGA DINILAI MELALUI KELAKUANNYA BILA DIA BERADA DIBAWAH"
Bukan Dato' Fadzilah Kamsah.


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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Nov 26 2012, 11:23 PM)
Kalau coach kat Malaysia ni sapa yg good (fatherly type) and sapa pulak yg jenis bad (mulut cam setan) ? biggrin.gif
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gila kau... kita kan budaya timur .. mana boleh mulut cam setan.. anjing2 sumer ni... tak boleh woo...

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post Nov 26 2012, 11:29 PM

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MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2012

Tacticaly outdated HM outclassed by The old enemy on home soil

Yang Berbahagia Dato K Rajagobal was flying high since 2009, and his success in Laos gave some new momentum on local football to rise again. And followed by the unthinkable 2010 AFF victory in Jakarta further endorsed his philosophy who started the revolution with the national under 16 team. Since then, he seems to work on his own way, and the reluctance to change the style of play is exactly what i am going to write tonight. This is because i care for my national team.

And he was brought down to earth yesterday by the old enemy Singapore on our own backyard...the reality starts to bite.

In 2010, there was no expectation, nobody care to take Malaysia seriously. We went to Jakarta without a numbers of supposedly 'core players'. Slaughtered in the first game, however went on unnotice by many and suddenly lifted the cup in a quite remarkable dramatic fashion.

Two years on, series of friendly matches saw some signs of stagnancy, where the formation of 4-4-2 remain as the catalyst of our game plan. The pattern of positioning, distribution of the ball also unchange. The selection of players for each position has been increasingly expected.

S Kunanlan for instance, has been playing as a left winger regularly for 2 or 3 years. During the game, there was no position exchange between him and fellow wide man from the opposite flanks. He will stay there on the left flank for the entire game. Very predictable.

The return of Aidil Zafuan means one of the two cup winning centre backs have to be sacrificed. For me, this was the starting point, the solidity of the back four has been broken. A returning player should compete for his place instead of given an automatic spot. An automatic spot in the national team for a player who played in second division added more insult to the rest. The dressing room harmony could be an unknown issue for the public. But if it is, the damage done could be unreconcilable.

Skipper Safiq Rahim is another untouchable asset. Unchallenge, his call up to the squad means that they will be no other attacking playmaker in the squad. Dato build his team around Safiq. His limited style of cross field passes is now very common for south east asian teams. Lack of pace, lack of physical presence, and make things worse, his form has been declining in recent weeks. No healthy rivalry in the squad has put him in a very relax and complacent situation.

Besides talking about personel, the formation used by Dato was also very predictable. Flat 4-4-2 with the creativity much coming from Nurshahrul, the rest was easily read by Baihaki and the gangs.

No real penetration on the lions defence as they quickly defending in numbers once the ball reach Wan Zack or Kuna. Either flanks were well shut, as the two hardworking midfielders in Harris Harun and Mustafic always helping the fullbacks to clamp the threat from wide arears.

When supplies from the flanks were limited, the chances to get the ball into the area has been decreasing. That desperate situation forced Safee Sali to come deep just to collect passes.

For me, outdated tactics, identical personel and Maybe dressing room unrest could be the factor for this defeat. I just hope the national team set up could consider radical changes for the next game. We need the 3 points very badly.
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Nov 26 2012, 11:37 PM)
Sathianathan pun nampak mcm jenis garang je, Rajagopal mcm lembut sket
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rajagobal tatau style ape. sebab players sume memang dead respect kat dia.
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(sickx @ Nov 26 2012, 11:40 PM)
so yang buat havoc depan team bus semalam is just a fraction of ultras yang i assumed budak baru?
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a big fraction i think. definately bukan budak baru. entahlah....

tapi org yang level headed dalam ultras memang minority right now.
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post Nov 27 2012, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Nov 27 2012, 12:14 AM)
Just curious, jumpa raja nak buat apa?
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to kick him on the teeth when he is down of course.

selfish reason bagi aku.
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post Nov 27 2012, 08:01 AM

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......................APEK................................

MAHALI......AIDIL....FADLI SHAS.....ZUBIR


..................GARY.......SHAKIR..............


MATYO..............BADD....................KUNA

..........................SAFEE.........................
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post Nov 27 2012, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(jijul84 @ Nov 27 2012, 08:47 AM)
mustahil lah bro Rajagobal paling dia rombak pon mcm ni,

---------------- Farizal ------------
mahali ---- aidil --- fadhli - zubir
wan zack - SAFIQ - gary - kuna
------------ matyo - safee --------

SAFIQ wajib ade. Dia kan Captain, mustahil RG nak drop dia.
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Safiq adalah key to everything. Kalau die still ada takkan berubah pon cara mainan kita. Still same old.


Tapi deep down aku tahu memang memang tu jigak.
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post Nov 27 2012, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(hmalaya @ Nov 27 2012, 09:23 AM)
Rajagopal words....

Before vs Singapore
“We didn’t get the desired result against Bangladesh and I’ll take stern action if we don’t get a positive result against Singapore,” warned Rajagopal. 
“I’m concerned with the team’s display … but we have four days to rectify it. Another below-par performance will force me to make drastic changes to the team.”

After 0-3 loss
“There’s no excuse for the defeat. We told the players of Singapore’s strengths but they obviously learnt nothing. But I’m still confident of pro[CODE]gressing from the group despite the setback and really want to meet Singapore in the final.” 
“He made mistakes but then everyone makes mistakes. We must stay positive for the next match,”

Lets wait and see the promised 'drastic changes' in game vs Laos...
After 2 years experiment of 66 players, we ended up with same core players from 2010...
and same old predictable strategy....
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The whole south east asia knows rg dont have anymore under hia sleeve.

Cruel fact.

Second string side pon lagi teruk main vs bangladesh.

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QUOTE(sam.hajime @ Nov 27 2012, 10:46 AM)
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Harap sumer org puas hati dgr luahan safee ni.
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QUOTE(chaiyya345 @ Nov 27 2012, 12:32 PM)
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I have been ripped off then.
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post Nov 27 2012, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Nov 27 2012, 01:25 PM)
oo macam tu,
kat mane ade jual tiket selain kat kaunter stadium? hmm.gif
malam bukak tak? hmm.gif
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Bukak bro. Take your time
sure tak ramai pergi punya.

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