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post Aug 18 2013, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ryou @ Aug 18 2013, 07:47 PM)
I believe the QX10 and QX100 are meant to test the market, with both of them so differently spec-ed. Sony could see how the market reflects since the one buying QX10 will probably not buy the QX100, thus giving a vision on how "general smartphone users" will spend money when it comes to serious photography.

I also agree that it will not sell well, but only in Malaysia, we are yet to see the global sales and maybe it might surprise us? smile.gif
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u're right, this one is meant to test the market i guess. in due time, they should have a smaller version that will attract more general users.

but as of now, that thing looks pretty clunky. not something u would keep in ur pocket. would really surprise me if global sales are doing well.
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QUOTE(chokia @ Aug 18 2013, 12:21 PM)
Seriously I'm sold with this idea. We already have mirrorless now we shall have a "bodyless" camera

Aint everyone wants good lens with huge sensor?

Bodyless vs Mirrorless now. Keep up the pace people.
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LOL?

only one product then you said this? Bodyless vs Mirrorless now. Keep up the pace people.

It still needs some period of time to see if this is really the future of camera.

When mirrorless first launched, they also took some time for people to accept and purchase them.
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post Aug 18 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Aug 18 2013, 08:39 PM)
u're right, this one is meant to test the market i guess. in due time, they should have a smaller version that will attract more general users.

but as of now, that thing looks pretty clunky. not something u would keep in ur pocket. would really surprise me if global sales are doing well.
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I agree on the size too, given that the Honami seems so slim. I agree it's not pocketable but based on my experience, it's no harm carrying something that size when you carry a handbag that girls usually carry (my girlfriend in my case). If they are made slightly smaller, it's a good addition. smile.gif

Another thing I concern is, the education of photography towards general smartphone users who aren't aware of how a high quality images should look like. With these smartphone users knowing how good is it when pictures are sharp, clean and rich in colour, they will look into getting more image quality. So telling people the importance of image quality will open the path to these camera-oriented smartphones to enter the market. smile.gif

These are just my thoughts, so feel free to correct me. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Ryou @ Aug 18 2013, 09:46 PM)
I agree on the size too, given that the Honami seems so slim. I agree it's not pocketable but based on my experience, it's no harm carrying something that size when you carry a handbag that girls usually carry (my girlfriend in my case). If they are made slightly smaller, it's a good addition. smile.gif

Another thing I concern is, the education of photography towards general smartphone users who aren't aware of how a high quality images should look like. With these smartphone users knowing how good is it when pictures are sharp, clean and rich in colour, they will look into getting more image quality. So telling people the importance of image quality will open the path to these camera-oriented smartphones to enter the market. smile.gif

These are just my thoughts, so feel free to correct me. biggrin.gif
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camera phones are getting better and better, yet people still use instagram. i wonder if people would instagram with this lens as well. laugh.gif

anyway, cant wait for the review. im kinda excited to see how it performs.
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post Aug 21 2013, 11:47 AM

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Instagram has no relevance to quality of camera. People use Instagram for networking.
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post Aug 22 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 21 2013, 11:47 AM)
Instagram has no relevance to quality of camera. People use Instagram for networking.
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Yes you are right , as far as i know, from the statistic of instagram i read somewhere b4 this, most images which were uploaded after applying those cranky filters , wont turn out to be as sharp also. Only if there's a way to minimize the sensor from a larger SLR without compromising much of the information of the pic icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QX10

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QX100 (RX100 Mark II Sensors)

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Source : http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-new-qx-...has-in-body-is/
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post Sep 1 2013, 01:22 AM

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Next Sony will remove RX1-R body and sell only RX1 lens together with the FF sensor and call it Sony Cybershot QX1 for our phone.

DUH.

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post Sep 2 2013, 06:04 PM

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Acer quickly announced the world 1st 4K recording smartphone before any manufacturer in the press released today



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A Touch More Resolution with Acer's First 4K Recording Smartphone @ IFA 2013

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Editors' Summary:
• Ultra multimedia: 13MP camera, 4K Video, fast full HD, 4 x slow motion, full panorama 27MP photo, LED flash
• Ultra performance: Full HD 6" display with IPS technology
• Ultra connectivity: 4G LTE, Wi-Fi 802.11 ac


BERLIN, Sept. 2, 2013 - Acer will unveil at IFA 2013 the new Liquid S2, a full HD 6" with IPS technology 4K recording capable smartphone with ultra-fast connectivity including 4G LTE and the new Wi-Fi 802.11 ac standard. Following the recent successful launch of the Liquid E, Z and S series, Acer is now ushering in a different world of clarity with four times the resolution of full HD. This technology has been featured in some cameras already, but it's a completely new experience with smartphones running on Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 2.2GHz processor capable of recording in 4K.

The real beauty of the smartphone is its iconic soft round curves and red elements for the receiver mesh and metallic ring highlighting the four LED ring flash for low light and macro capturing. The curved glass surface keeps a soft touch and "edgeless" feeling around the rim.

A touch of visual moments

The Liquid S2 combines the simple and visual interface with a 13-megapixel rear-facing camera to take professional looking photographs or videos with a smartphone. The front-facing 2-megapixel camera allows consumers to capture moments with an 88-degree wide viewing angle.

The Liquid S2 is loaded with several enhancements to capture reality:

BSI Sensors and LED Ring Flash: Sharper pictures in any environment
• Video Recording: 4K Ultra HD, fast full HD 1080p 60FPS, 4 x slow motion
• Full Panorama Pictures: Up to 27-megapixels in a single picture
• Quick First Shot: Take picture right from unlock the screen with automatic center-focus by tapping any location on the screen
• Smart Best Shot: Automatically detects photo type and takes multiple shots for best selection
• Tag Widget: Convenient photo browsing with scene tag.
• Favorite Mode: Create up to five profiles with customized effects, flash, capture mode and scenes
• Exposure Control: One finger focus and exposure adjustment
• Freehand Capture: Crop out anything on the screen using hand or a digital pen
• Live Screen™: Share ideas and journey through pictures and scribble

A touch faster

This feature-packed Android smartphone will operate on 3G and 4G networks to boost customers with an average upload speed of up to 150Mbps. It will also support the latest Wi-Fi standard, 802.11 ac, offering significantly faster data transfer, better coverage and power efficiency when compared to today's 802.11 n standard. The Easy Hotspot enables the smartphone to act as a mobile Wi-Fi router to share wireless internet connectivity with up to 6 Wi-Fi enabled devices. The internet connection can also be shared with QR codes and NFC.

Acer Float User Interface allows several app windows to stay open, so users can multitask without having to back out of one app to work on another. The press of a key brings up the Float Apps shortcut where apps on a translucent screen float over the function being used. It is easy to access or switch Float Apps anytime and can be customized with up to 7 favored app shortcuts. A Float Caller notification ensures that users will not be interrupted by incoming calls that take over the full screen. When a call comes in, the Float Caller mini-window pops up and the user can choose to take the call or reply with a quick message.

A touch more power

The latest addition to the Acer smartphone family is designed with a full HD display with IPS technology and 368 ppi for brilliant, stunning graphics on the 6-inch screen with a wide viewing angle. It is 8.99 mm thin and has two stereo speakers powered with Dolby Digital Plus for a stunning sound experience. The Liquid S2 also uses curved Gorilla Glass® 3.0 to boast native damage resistance, making it stronger and more resistant to scratches and daily usage than before.

Available in red or black, the Liquid S2 is powered by Qualcomm's quad-core 2.2GHz processor, 2GB of internal memory and 3300 mAh battery for extended use on a single charge. Users can store a large library of photos, music and videos on the expandable memory of up to 128GB to complement the standard 16GB on-board storage.

Features and specs

Display 6", full HD (1,920 x 1,080), 368 PPI, IPS
Main camera 13 MP auto-focus, f2.2, 28 mm lens, BSI sensor, LED ring flash, 4K video
Front camera 2 MP, f2.2, 24 mm lens, 88° wide angle, BSI sensor, 1080p video
Processor: Quad-core 2.2 GHz
Storage / memory: 16 GB / 2 GB
Battery: 3300 mAh, non-replaceable Li-polymer battery
Dimensions: 166 x 86 x 8.99 mm,
Network: 4G: 800/1800/2600 3G: 900/2100 2G: 850/900/1800/1900
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11ac/a/b/g/n, Bluetooth® 4.0, GPS+GLONASS, NFC
Sensors: Light sensor, accelerometer, proximity sensor, digital compass, gyro
Operating system: Android™ 4.2.2
Acer features: Acer Float UI, Acer HD Channel, Acer Docs and Acer Remote Files, Acer
Data Traffic Manager, Acer Float Caller, Acer Float Apps
(maps/notes/camera/calculator), Acer Live Screen™, Acer Print, Acer
Easy hotspot
Additional features: Skitch, YouTube™, Moodagent, Polaris Office, Swype text input, Google
Keep, Evernote®, wireless display, Dolby Digital Plus

Pricing and Availability

The Liquid S2 version will be available at the end of October in. Exact pricing and availability will be announced at a later stage.


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post Sep 3 2013, 05:48 AM

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Update : QX100 and QX10

Sony made the rear cover so you dont have to have the bracket to attach your phone and it comes with nice casing for your lens

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Infact you dont have to attach the lens to the phone. You can just put it anywhere you like or hold it while your girlfriend look at the phone.

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So what impractical you're talking about? More pics for the sceptics :-

http://photorumors.com/2013/09/02/more-ima...r-smart-phones/

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post Sep 3 2013, 03:40 PM

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same with me..smartphone bcome camara...
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lol so cute the picture. But if tat so i might as well just get the RX100 MkII since it already has the wifi function. And can be used individually.

Why carry the lens which cant function by itself?
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post Sep 3 2013, 04:34 PM

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i will buy it
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post Sep 3 2013, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Sep 3 2013, 04:16 PM)
lol so cute the picture. But if tat so i might as well just get the RX100 MkII since it already has the wifi function. And can be used individually.

Why carry the lens which cant function by itself?
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It can functions by itself.

The correct question to ask is why carry a camera body when you're carrying your phone.
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QUOTE(chokia @ Sep 1 2013, 01:22 AM)
Next Sony will remove RX1-R body and sell only RX1 lens together with the FF sensor and call it Sony Cybershot QX1 for our phone.

DUH.

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blink.gif you sure about this?

imagine the cost then tongue.gif CZ lens with FF sensor
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post Sep 4 2013, 04:01 AM

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Yeah who could have thought Sony will remove RX100-MII body, attached its own sensor to the lens and sell it as Sony Cybershot QX100 for US$450. Thats nearly half the price of RX100-R (US$878 @shashinki)

Now imagine RX1 for half the price.

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post Sep 4 2013, 04:44 AM

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Video just leaked


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post Sep 4 2013, 08:58 PM

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$498 pre-order on amazon

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http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSCQX100-Smartp.../dp/B00EVIBN26/

The casing so cute

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New Sony QX Series “Lens-Style Cameras” Redefine the Mobile Photography Experience
by Communications 09/04/2013


New Concept Cameras Link Flawlessly to Smartphone, Offering High-Zoom, Stunning Quality Images and HD Videos for Instant Sharing



NEW YORK, Sept. 4, 2013 – Merging the creative power of a premium compact camera with the convenience and connectivity of today’s smartphones, Sony today introduced two “lens-style” QX series cameras that bring new levels of fun and creativity to the mobile photography experience.

The innovative Cyber-shot® DSC-QX100 and DSC-QX10 models utilize Wi-Fi® connectivity to instantly transform a connected smartphone into a versatile, powerful photographic tool, allowing it to shoot high-quality images and HD videos to rival a premium compact camera.  It’s an entirely new and different way for consumers to capture and share memories with friends and family.

With a distinct lens-style shape, the new cameras utilize the latest version of Sony’s PlayMemories Mobile™ application (available for iOS™ and Android™ devices, version 3.1 or higher required) to connect wirelessly to a smartphone, converting the bright, large LCD screen of the phone into a real-time viewfinder with the ability to release the shutter, start/stop movie recordings, and adjust common photographic settings like shooting mode, zoom, Auto Focus area and more.

For added convenience, the app can be activated using NFC one-touch with compatible devices.  Once pictures are taken, they are saved directly on both the phone and the camera*, and can be shared instantly via social media or other common mobile applications.

“With the new QX series cameras, we are making it easier for the ever-growing population of ‘mobile photographers’ to capture far superior, higher-quality content without sacrificing the convenience and accessibility of their existing mobile network or the familiar ‘phone-style’ shooting experience that they’ve grown accustomed to,” said Patrick Huang, director of the Cyber-shot business at Sony.  “We feel that these new products represent not only an evolution for the digital camera business, but a revolution in terms of redefining how cameras and smartphones can cooperatively flourish in today’s market.”

The new compact, ultra-portable cameras can be attached to a connected phone with a supplied mechanically adjustable adapter, or can be held separately in hand or even mounted to a tripod while still maintaining all functionality and connectivity with the smartphone.  They can also be operated as completely independent cameras if desired, as both the DSC-QX100 and DSC-QX10 cameras have a shutter release, memory card slot and come with a rechargeable battery.

Premium, Large-Sensor QX100 Camera

The Cyber-shot DSC-QX100 camera features a premium, high-quality 1.0 inch, 20.2 MP Exmor® RCMOS sensor.  Identical to the sensor found in the acclaimed Cyber-shot RX100 II camera, it allows for exceptionally detailed, ultra-low noise images in all types of lighting conditions, including dimly lit indoor and night scenes.

The sensor is paired with a fast, wide-aperture Carl Zeiss® Vario-Sonnar T* lens with 3.6x optical zoom and a powerful BIONZ® image processor, ensuring beautifully natural, detail-packed still images and HD videos.   As an extra refinement, the DSC-QX100 sports a dedicated control ring for camera-like adjustment of manual focus and zoom.

Several different shooting modes can be selected while using the camera including Program Auto, Aperture Priority, Intelligent Auto and Superior Auto, which automatically recognizes 33 different shooting conditions and adjusts camera settings to suit.

High-Zoom Cyber-shot QX10 model

Boasting a powerful 18.2 effective megapixel Exmor RCMOS sensor and versatile 10x optical zoom Sony G Lens, the Cyber-shot DSC-QX10 camera allows mobile photographers to bring distant subjects closer without sacrificing image quality or resolution, a common problem in smartphones.  It’s also extremely portable and lightweight – weighing less than 4 oz and measuring about 2.5”X2.5”x1.3”, it’s a great tool for travel photography.

Additionally, the camera has built-in Optical SteadyShot image stabilization to combat camera shake, keeping handheld pictures and videos steady and blur-free.  It has Program Auto, Intelligent Auto and Superior Auto modes to choose from, and will be available in two different colors – black and white.

Pricing and Availability

The new Cyber-shot DSC-QX100 and DSC-QX10 lens-style cameras will available later this month for about $500 and $250, respectively.

The cameras and a range of compatible accessories including a soft carry case and dedicated camera case attachment for Sony Mobile phones like the Xperia™ Z can be purchased at Sony retail stores (www.store.sony.com) and other authorized dealers nationwide.

Please visit www.blog.sony.com for a full video preview of the new Sony Cyber-shot QX Series cameras and follow #SonyCamera on Twitter for the latest camera news.


Official Press Release : http://blog.sony.com/press/new-sony-qx-ser...phy-experience/

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post Sep 5 2013, 07:17 AM

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Lets hope more camera company join in!! Would love to see a fuji lens..
A lot of ppl are complaining bout the size.. But I tell u what.. If u were carrying a camera.. Wouldn't this be smaller? Granted it isn't much of a looker yet.. (For me anyway) haha

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