Dear /k/,
I had wagyu steak ytd at a 5* hotel to belanja my aboi bday.
yea it's very tender..but nothing much to hooo haaa about.
damn fukken expensive too..
in before tered kuda.
I finally tried, Wagyuu
I finally tried, Wagyuu
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Dear /k/,
I had wagyu steak ytd at a 5* hotel to belanja my aboi bday. yea it's very tender..but nothing much to hooo haaa about. damn fukken expensive too.. in before tered kuda. |
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Which Wagyu you tried, the one near KL sentral?
From what i heard, it's not just suppose to be tender, it's suppose to MELT IN YOUR MOUTH NOT IN YOU HANDS! maybe the one you ate grew up in Australia instead of Japan. |
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Prime?
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 09:30 AM) Dear /k/, since its beef, tenderness is pretty much to be hoo haa-edI had wagyu steak ytd at a 5* hotel to belanja my aboi bday. yea it's very tender..but nothing much to hooo haaa about. damn fukken expensive too.. in before tered kuda. wait a menet, are you trying to tell us......you're not happy about your ah boi being unenthusiastic about his bday. Perhaps you celebrated his wrongly! |
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jelly ur aboi to the max..
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mollai.... insaf la...
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QUOTE(lovelyass @ Nov 19 2012, 09:34 AM) x user posted image... hahahahahaQUOTE(peinsama @ Nov 19 2012, 09:36 AM) since its beef, tenderness is pretty much to be hoo haa-ed erm..i know a place, not as tender as wagyu...but the steak gooding enough laa..wait a menet, are you trying to tell us......you're not happy about your ah boi being unenthusiastic about his bday. Perhaps you celebrated his wrongly! QUOTE(unig @ Nov 19 2012, 09:39 AM) apa laaaaa??btw..u wanna be whose last piap? lolll Wagyu melts in your mouth? that's is sooooo sooooooo overexaggerating. I tertipuuu.... btw..yeap..i pigi prime.. the first wagyu was over done...i komplain, but didn't ask them to change >.<.... then i ordered another mignon.. that was goodingg |
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 09:47 AM) x user posted image... hahahahaha the melting stuff is the fat la..erm..i know a place, not as tender as wagyu...but the steak gooding enough laa.. apa laaaaa?? btw..u wanna be whose last piap? lolll Wagyu melts in your mouth? that's is sooooo sooooooo overexaggerating. I tertipuuu.... btw..yeap..i pigi prime.. the first wagyu was over done...i komplain, but didn't ask them to change >.<.... then i ordered another mignon.. that was goodingg maybe your wagyu fat not enuf have you tried las vacas steak? |
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apa tu las vacas steak?
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las vacas steak = las vegas steak
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las vegas steak gooding? famous?
mana ada? |
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 09:30 AM) Dear /k/, haha...yeah, I tried it in a restaurant - the owner/chef from france/italy personally cooked for us,I had wagyu steak ytd at a 5* hotel to belanja my aboi bday. yea it's very tender..but nothing much to hooo haaa about. damn fukken expensive too.. in before tered kuda. price: 300+ LOL |
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Wagyu has different grades (marbling) but it also depends on the done-ness of the meat.
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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Nov 19 2012, 10:02 AM) err las vacas itu nama restaurant la.. har..mana tuuu la deiiijust prepare rm200+ for a wagyu meal..sure much less than your 5* hotel right? taste like homemade grilling..simple and delicious depends how big is it.. QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 19 2012, 10:03 AM) haha...yeah, I tried it in a restaurant - the owner/chef from france/italy personally cooked for us, your 'yeah'..means you agree with me? that it is just tender..nothing to hoo hah?price: 300+ LOL QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ Nov 19 2012, 10:03 AM) those i had was with 9 marbling score or more. medium rare. |
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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Nov 19 2012, 10:02 AM) err las vacas itu nama restaurant la.. yea.. i can taste that they only have some rosemary, pepper to the steak.. salt on the side.just prepare rm200+ for a wagyu meal..sure much less than your 5* hotel right? taste like homemade grilling..simple and delicious good la very natural can taste the sweetness of that beef but i still prefer american grill, with asparagus..Jake's Starhill Gallery |
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 19 2012, 10:03 AM) haha...yeah, I tried it in a restaurant - the owner/chef from france/italy personally cooked for us, a cheaper option but not lack of the taste.. i really recommend Opus at Bangsar, italian restaurant..price: 300+ LOL http://www.opusbistro.my i 110% agree with vkeong... http://www.vkeong.com/2011/12/opus-bistro-...ngkung-bangsar/ Despite not being a steakhouse, steaks are surprisingly affordable and good here with the marbling no.7 Wagyu Striploin being the most expensive at RM150. Then Black Angus follows at the range of RM50-70 depending on the cut. I had the Black Angus Rib Eye (250gm) @ RM70 and it is one of the best steaks I ever had for this kind of pricing. Compared to other steak restaurants with similar pricing like Las Vacas or Jake’s, Opus wins hands-down for me without a shadow of a doubt. ask for red wine sauce.. if go Fri, Sat, Sun please make reservation to avoid dissapointment |
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By The Way
There is no set criteria to market a cow as "Wagyu." As long as the cow has some origin that can be traced back to Japan, an exporter can market it as Wagyu liao, example I take one cow from Japan, cross breed it with local cow and then just let it go roam in the fields like any other cow. That's why when you go Cold Storage and see the "Wagyu Rib Eye," the marbling hardly looks any different from normal beef. ![]() ... as compared to 'proper' wagyu/kobe: ![]() More reading here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2...-kobe-beef-lie/ |
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 19 2012, 10:37 AM) By The Way is it? then why there such thing as Australia Wagyu and US Wagyu?There is no set criteria to market a cow as "Wagyu." As long as the cow has some origin that can be traced back to Japan, an exporter can market it as Wagyu liao, example I take one cow from Japan, cross breed it with local cow and then just let it go roam in the fields like any other cow. http://www.uidaho.edu/uirp/tenants/americanwagyu http://wagyu.une.edu.au/ |
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 10:06 AM) har..mana tuuu la deiii I agree its tender and melts in your mouth(of cos have to chew lar)> when its piping hot/hot/warm. with the sauce (the sauce is a crucial pivot point as well) when its cold, its not nice, btw, my wagyu beef costs almost 400, if include tax, over 400. LOL most fukken exp meal I ever eaten for a dish. zzzdepends how big is it.. your 'yeah'..means you agree with me? that it is just tender..nothing to hoo hah? those i had was with 9 marbling score or more. medium rare. chef says: any special occasion for today? (guess its fcken exp no1 orders it), me: nah, just for fun and taste likeaboss.jpg |
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try vegetarian. u'll love it. do your skin good.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 19 2012, 10:42 AM) is it? then why there such thing as Australia Wagyu and US Wagyu? http://www.uidaho.edu/uirp/tenants/americanwagyu http://wagyu.une.edu.au/ Example the link you gave for American Wagyu, it says "WAGYU Breed History in USA Wagyu cattle were first imported in 1975 when two black and two red bulls were imported Morris Whitney. " i.e. the origins of these beef is from Japan. What I meant is the lack of any "standards." Importer A can use those "purebreed" Wagyu cows from Japan and raise their cattle (almost) exactly the same way the Japanese do it. Then you get nice meat that could be very similar to what you get in Japan. But Importer B could take one wagyu cow, crossbreed it with ten other local cows, and raise it like any other cow. Then you get a meat that hardly looks/feels/tastes like Japanese Kobe beef. But Importer B can still market this beef as Wagyu. I guess what I'm trying to say is that because of this lack of standards, some wagyu beef can be wildly inferior to others. |
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what grade of wagyu??
I tried grade 7 before it's almost like 80g of wagyu come with 70% of baby fat, but that's freaking expensive |
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 19 2012, 10:54 AM) Example the link you gave for American Wagyu, it says "WAGYU Breed History in USA Wagyu cattle were first imported in 1975 when two black and two red bulls were imported Morris Whitney. " i.e. the origins of these beef is from Japan. According to my Osaka Headchef, u're right, wagyu in Aussie is basically a crossbreed of the purebreed x aussie beef and the terrain they use to raise isn't the same as those in Japan What I meant is the lack of any "standards." Importer A can use those "purebreed" Wagyu cows from Japan and raise their cattle (almost) exactly the same way the Japanese do it. Then you get nice meat that could be very similar to what you get in Japan. But Importer B could take one wagyu cow, crossbreed it with ten other local cows, and raise it like any other cow. Then you get a meat that hardly looks/feels/tastes like Japanese Kobe beef. But Importer B can still market this beef as Wagyu. I guess what I'm trying to say is that because of this lack of standards, some wagyu beef can be wildly inferior to others. |
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Steaks at Prime is still one of the best I've ever tried!
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i told my bf..in the future we can go japan..i will still wanna pay for that money to try japan wagyu..shabu shabu ...yummmms..
acehh..need to chew one is it..damn..then why they always like to say melt in your month...damn...TERTIPUUUU btw...will try opus one day...hmm..i usually go Pampas @ Changkat Bukit Bintang. Their steaks are affordable at rm45-50 for 250g... and nice too |
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 11:03 AM) i told my bf..in the future we can go japan..i will still wanna pay for that money to try japan wagyu..shabu shabu ...yummmms.. shabu-shabu with wagyu....interestingacehh..need to chew one is it..damn..then why they always like to say melt in your month...damn...TERTIPUUUU btw...will try opus one day...hmm..i usually go Pampas @ Changkat Bukit Bintang. Their steaks are affordable at rm45-50 for 250g... and nice too the best way to taste it is to lightly grill and just season it briefly soaking it into hot soup will take off its fat entirely and also absorbing irrelevant favor to the meat >_< Melt in your mouth or not depends on how high is the grade and also how u handle the cooking never ever try those shop that claim they have wagyu but never present the raw meat to u (i.e. wagyu burger for rm60?? I call it lard+beef chunk knock-off) This post has been edited by TheEvilMan: Nov 19 2012, 11:07 AM |
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Nov 19 2012, 10:59 AM) i went prime..the first wagyu master kobe or sth..was over done..damn it..too thin...QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Nov 19 2012, 11:05 AM) shabu-shabu with wagyu....interesting hmm..but at prime they don't present the raw meat to me one wohhthe best way to taste it is to lightly grill and just season it briefly soaking it into hot soup will take off its fat entirely and also absorbing irrelevant favor to the meat >_< Melt in your mouth or not depends on how high is the grade and also how u handle the cooking never ever try those shop that claim they have wagyu but never present the raw meat to u (i.e. wagyu burger for rm60?? I call it lard+beef chunk knock-off) |
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 11:12 AM) i went prime..the first wagyu master kobe or sth..was over done..damn it..too thin... u mean they already cook it for u??hmm..but at prime they don't present the raw meat to me one wohh not sure abt here since i nvr try, but theres lot of fake in aussie so i usually eat at place where they grill personally in front of u or let ub the chef the burger i mentioned was ordered by my friend here in some cheapo restaurant ard jaya1, i lmao at the pric he paid and what he gotten This post has been edited by TheEvilMan: Nov 19 2012, 11:18 AM |
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 19 2012, 10:54 AM) Example the link you gave for American Wagyu, it says "WAGYU Breed History in USA Wagyu cattle were first imported in 1975 when two black and two red bulls were imported Morris Whitney. " i.e. the origins of these beef is from Japan. wagyu is wagyu, unless u r saying american wagyu and australian wagyu is lack of standard as japanese ones.What I meant is the lack of any "standards." Importer A can use those "purebreed" Wagyu cows from Japan and raise their cattle (almost) exactly the same way the Japanese do it. Then you get nice meat that could be very similar to what you get in Japan. But Importer B could take one wagyu cow, crossbreed it with ten other local cows, and raise it like any other cow. Then you get a meat that hardly looks/feels/tastes like Japanese Kobe beef. But Importer B can still market this beef as Wagyu. I guess what I'm trying to say is that because of this lack of standards, some wagyu beef can be wildly inferior to others. |
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well deodorant..i wouldn't mine if it is not a pure breed of wagyu but with a high marbling score. lol
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 11:12 AM) i went prime..the first wagyu master kobe or sth..was over done..damn it..too thin... ahhh stuff like these happens.. Try telling them its not what you wanted im sure they will be glad to change it for you!hmm..but at prime they don't present the raw meat to me one wohh |
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I took this from a friend's facebook comment that made me lol!
Australian Wagyu beef... as the head chef, Mr. Kurihara said.. "it's Australian beef with Japanese DNA.. you get what I mean? Kinda like how you are Chinese, but Malaysian" Well said!! |
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I know how to prepare, marinade and grill wagyu but i dont eat beef.
A Japanese chef taught me before and now he has a restaurant in starhill. |
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 19 2012, 11:21 AM) wagyu is wagyu, unless u r saying american wagyu and australian wagyu is lack of standard as japanese ones. Go and see for yourself lor. Go cold storage or any supermarket that sells 'cheap' wagyu and look at the (lack of) marbling on the meat. Then go to a specialty butcher that sells the expensive stuff (or search for pictures online), look at the difference and then come and tell us whether you still believe that wagyu is wagyu. Also for your reading pleasure: http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2...arifications/2/ QUOTE So what do I get when buy Wagyu in the U.S.? Unfortunately, the term has little if any precise definition in this country. Honest to goodness full-blooded cattle from different Japanese or Wagyu breeds have been exported to this country in the past for breeding, before the ban. Some well-intentioned farmers have maintained these bloodlines in 100% pure forms, with the documentation to proceve it, and these would be the ones to seek out. But most have not. Even the term Purebred Wagyu, used by the American Wagyu Association, does not refer to a wholly pure animal. Their term for that is 100% Wagyu. However much of what is sold as Wagyu here is what the AWA calls “percentage Wagyu” meaning it is part Japanese breed after being crossed with other types of cattle. In some cases, the “purity” of the Wagyu line goes back two generations, and the percentage Wagyu is the grandchildren of the Wagyu after cross-breeding. So the products sold under the Wagyu name in the U.S. vary widely. Also, these terms, 100% Wagyu, Purebred Wagyu, and Percentage Wagyu are constructs of the AWA, a trade group, for marketing purposes, not legal definitions. When you see Wagyu, it might be 100% of a Japanese breed, like that used for Kobe beef, or it might be much less. Unless you are in direct contact with the breeder, it can be impossible to ascertain either the breed or the Wagyu content. This post has been edited by deodorant: Nov 19 2012, 11:38 AM |
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Maybe its not real Wagyu beef?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2...-kobe-beef-lie/ edit: ops someone posted the link above faster than me. This post has been edited by achilleus: Nov 19 2012, 11:42 AM |
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QUOTE(achilleus @ Nov 19 2012, 11:40 AM) Maybe its not real Wagyu beef? laaa dewwwww then.. it's a 5* hotel..prime = so called best steak house in kl..http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2...-kobe-beef-lie/ edit: ops someone posted the link above faster than me. don't think they sell fake ones guaaaa |
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Poor fags should continue to eat burger ramli
not post in /k about how she spent money on expensive shit and not able to understand the value of it. |
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 19 2012, 11:49 AM) =.="i really dunno what they posted.. lalalala QUOTE(omnimech @ Nov 19 2012, 11:50 AM) Poor fags should continue to eat burger ramli ooooooooooo...so u rich fag la?not post in /k about how she spent money on expensive shit and not able to understand the value of it. chiu.. |
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I'll rather eat RM3 1Malaysia meal.
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i miss this...anywhere have this? I know a lot of place that let u grill but not many given u wagyu as choice
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 12:12 PM) waffaak..where got thissss?? photo taken from google, but i did went to one in Aussie, here i still looking for places like thisafter reading the link..i think i must go japan eat kobe for once before i die. the last time i had wagyu here, the steak is so dried up and like i mentioned, no raw meat was shown before cooking or anything, i assume it's a ripped-off, and it's from a well known restaurant operated by well known hotel :/ |
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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Nov 19 2012, 12:17 PM) photo taken from google, but i did went to one in Aussie, here i still looking for places like this jsut tell the name of the hotel la...cakap jer..the last time i had wagyu here, the steak is so dried up and like i mentioned, no raw meat was shown before cooking or anything, i assume it's a ripped-off, and it's from a well known restaurant operated by well known hotel :/ |
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Feggit jom pampas
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liez... wagyu is the best!!! The best I tell you..
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QUOTE(Mollai @ Nov 19 2012, 09:47 AM) x user posted image... hahahahaha I wanna be ur last piap.... erm..i know a place, not as tender as wagyu...but the steak gooding enough laa.. apa laaaaa?? btw..u wanna be whose last piap? lolll Wagyu melts in your mouth? that's is sooooo sooooooo overexaggerating. I tertipuuu.... btw..yeap..i pigi prime.. the first wagyu was over done...i komplain, but didn't ask them to change >.<.... then i ordered another mignon.. that was goodingg |
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QUOTE(shin-chan @ Nov 19 2012, 01:06 PM) jommmmmmmmmmmmmm!!bulan depan... loll... QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Nov 19 2012, 01:33 PM) yawehh...it is just...tender..very tender...doesn't melt... grr QUOTE(unig @ Nov 19 2012, 01:47 PM) how about no?QUOTE(HuorEarfalas @ Nov 19 2012, 02:10 PM) Dunno here got or not. I tried exactly like that one in Japan. US$35 per piece omggg...it's like RM100+ for 1 bite..omg omg omg...my bf sure mm seh dak. |
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Nov 19 2012, 02:27 PM
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Opus very nice ? ambience wise leh? =/ if its just a restaurant in a row of shops then not nice dy leh
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Nov 19 2012, 02:39 PM
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Nov 19 2012, 02:49 PM
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Nov 22 2012, 08:18 AM
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i received reply in this thread but when i clicked into this thread i no found the reply?
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Nov 22 2012, 08:34 AM
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Best steak I had ever tried
Sheelas located at langkawi |
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Nov 22 2012, 08:49 AM
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at Jaya Grocer you can buy your wagyu and ask the restaurant inside to cook for you. much much cheaper than Prime.
but for proper steak restaurant, i would rather go to Las Vacaz, their steaks are better than Tony Romas. cant compare with Prime coz never ate there. |
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