How?? Please noted that if the person is good, he/she would have got a full scholarship to study to begin with. For someone to need their family to sponsor him/her for a Master degree, that means the person is not good enough to qualify for a scholarship.

It is interesting to note the difference between the MSCE and MCE between the UK and USA system. In USA system, to get a MSCE, yuo need to write a Master Thesis and do the corresponding research. For MCE, you only have to attend classes. So, MSCE is held in higher regrd athan MCE for the USA system.


Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Mar 6 2006, 10:24 AM

There are a variety of ways in which one can earn over 600k in one's career.

The problem is this, there aren't many scholarships for one pusue a 3 or 4 year program at Imperial. So it is very inaccurate to say that one is not good or fit enough to study there just because one can't get a scholarship.

If you do not already know, the final year of a 4 year degree program in most british universities is mainly devoted to research in an area which the candidate is interested at. As such they would need to write a thesis at the end of their final year.

1) Show me one way where you need a MCE from Imperial College so that you can do it. 600K in how many years?? By the way, you need to earn a lot more than 600K in order to save 600K. In USA, because of taxes and so on, to have 600K after taxes, you need to earn at least 1.2 millions.

2) There are plenty of good colleges and universities in the world for a Master Degree in Chemical Engineering. And, if you are anyway fairly good in your grade from your Bachelor degree, you would have got a scholarship to study for a Master degree

3) I do not know about the thesis requirement for a British 4 years degree program. Thanks for the information.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Mar 6 2006, 02:18 PM

I am saying that it is possible to earn that much. In ringgits of course. Imperial graduates have the highest starting salary in the UK, roughly about GBP22-23k per year, minus tax and by considering promotions and stuff like that, you may earn back that money 10-15 years down the road.

Well, this is different, you will only get a MEng if you study at imperial. Which means you apply for this course when you are about to complete your A-levels or equivalent. As such, there is hardly any scholarships available.

Are you sure about this?? The thread starter is talking about a Master programme aka Master degree?? How do you get a Master degree without a Bachelor degree??

Dreamer

Very sure, if you were following my conversation with elb, you will find out that the normal most direct route to become a chartered engineer is to do a 4-year degree course.

Upon completion of this course, the candidate will be awarded a MEng. This is what the thread starter was talking about. Do it at Imperial or Nottingham?

You may think it is weird but most of the engineering degrees in the UK are designed under the guidance of the British Engineering Council or something like that.

1) RM300K = USD 75K = USD $18.75K per year

2) RM680K = USD 170K = USD $43.75K per year

And, this is for a 4 years degree program?? With that kind of money, you could have enter most of the top schools in USA. But, you would have to get a Bachelor degree first.

Dreamer

well, Imperial is one of the top schools in the world, comparable to Renssalaer, MIT, Caltech and others.

the only plus point is that you end up with a MEng in the same time span. You may not need that figure if you get into MIT but for the rest, you may still need it if you want to increase the chances of you getting admitted.

One week or so away, and I almost couldn't find this thread!

Thanks ppl for all the input.

Elb's explanation on the BEng/Msc vs MEng route was most enlightening. Thanks again.

I am confused. I am trying to understand what you are saying. Are you saying:

If one is good enough to be get admission to a Masters programme, one must also be good enough to secure a scholarship ( I am assuming you are referring to a merit schlarship vs one based on financial need). Therefore there are no privately funded students on the masters programme?...as least in the USA..ie

Please correct me if I am wrong.




We are hoping that with the education, our loved one could do a lot more with his life, deriving benefits/values than go beyond the material returns of say, an investment in a piece of real estate.


This post has been edited by ??!!: Mar 14 2006, 03:56 PM