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Mar 4 2006, 02:59 PM
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Do you want to be a chartered engineer or what?
You can do this where you do your bachelor's at nottingham and get a masters from imperial or elsewhere. That way , you save money.
This post has been edited by feynman: Mar 4 2006, 03:35 PM
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Mar 4 2006, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(elb @ Mar 4 2006, 08:04 PM) In fact, the overwhelming majority of post graduate engineering degrees (MSc) are NOT accredited at all by the professional engineering bodies (IChemE, IMechE, IEEE etc.). Therefore if you pick the BEng/ MSc route, your course is only 3/4 accredited, but as long as the design project criteria is met during your BEng, it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I don't know about the process in Malaysia, but according to the representatives of UOL, one must go through 4 years of engineering studies, 2 years of apprenticeship and another 2 years as a junior engineer before one can become a chartered engineer. This of course is the British system.
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Mar 4 2006, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 4 2006, 08:15 PM) IMHO, you have a wrong question. If a person is smart enough and deserve to get a Master Degree in Chemical Engineering, s/he would be able to get close to full scholarship to get his/her Master degree in Electrical Engineering. It is fairly common to get scholarship for graduate degree in USA (regardless of whether you are foreign student or not). Now, if a person is not smart enough, why waste so much money on a Master degree?? Save the money to buy a house for the person. Sorry for being brutally honest.. Dreamer True, but chemical engineering at imperial is a popular course and it seems that they have strong industrial links.
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Mar 4 2006, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(elb @ Mar 4 2006, 10:42 PM) I was referring to the UK postgraduate taught masters in engineering at my earlier post by the way. I need you to elaborate further..... As far as I know, there are two types of engineering degrees in the UK, 3 or 4 years. Since the British equivalent of BEM is actively involved in the designing and implementation of these courses, the 4 year program acts as a satisfactory requirement for one to be a chartered engineer. I suppose the taught masters that you were saying is an addition qualification for those with a BEng. This post has been edited by feynman: Mar 4 2006, 10:57 PM
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Mar 5 2006, 10:39 AM
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yes.
It's a 4+2+2 then.
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Mar 5 2006, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(elb @ Mar 5 2006, 10:47 AM) i'm not too sure on the 4 + 2 + 2, I think it was 4 + 3 to be more precise. It is......that's what UOL said.
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Mar 6 2006, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 6 2006, 09:57 AM) Can the person makes enough money in future to justify RM680K??? You could do a lot with your life with that kind of money. Dreamer It is possible........
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Mar 6 2006, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 6 2006, 10:15 AM) How?? Please noted that if the person is good, he/she would have got a full scholarship to study to begin with. For someone to need their family to sponsor him/her for a Master degree, that means the person is not good enough to qualify for a scholarship. It is interesting to note the difference between the MSCE and MCE between the UK and USA system. In USA system, to get a MSCE, yuo need to write a Master Thesis and do the corresponding research. For MCE, you only have to attend classes. So, MSCE is held in higher regrd athan MCE for the USA system. Dreamer There are a variety of ways in which one can earn over 600k in one's career. The problem is this, there aren't many scholarships for one pusue a 3 or 4 year program at Imperial. So it is very inaccurate to say that one is not good or fit enough to study there just because one can't get a scholarship. If you do not already know, the final year of a 4 year degree program in most british universities is mainly devoted to research in an area which the candidate is interested at. As such they would need to write a thesis at the end of their final year.
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Mar 6 2006, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 6 2006, 02:16 PM) 1) Show me one way where you need a MCE from Imperial College so that you can do it. 600K in how many years?? By the way, you need to earn a lot more than 600K in order to save 600K. In USA, because of taxes and so on, to have 600K after taxes, you need to earn at least 1.2 millions. 2) There are plenty of good colleges and universities in the world for a Master Degree in Chemical Engineering. And, if you are anyway fairly good in your grade from your Bachelor degree, you would have got a scholarship to study for a Master degree 3) I do not know about the thesis requirement for a British 4 years degree program. Thanks for the information. Dreamer I am saying that it is possible to earn that much. In ringgits of course. Imperial graduates have the highest starting salary in the UK, roughly about GBP22-23k per year, minus tax and by considering promotions and stuff like that, you may earn back that money 10-15 years down the road. Well, this is different, you will only get a MEng if you study at imperial. Which means you apply for this course when you are about to complete your A-levels or equivalent. As such, there is hardly any scholarships available.
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Mar 6 2006, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 6 2006, 03:09 PM) Are you sure about this?? The thread starter is talking about a Master programme aka Master degree?? How do you get a Master degree without a Bachelor degree?? Dreamer Very sure, if you were following my conversation with elb, you will find out that the normal most direct route to become a chartered engineer is to do a 4-year degree course. Upon completion of this course, the candidate will be awarded a MEng. This is what the thread starter was talking about. Do it at Imperial or Nottingham? You may think it is weird but most of the engineering degrees in the UK are designed under the guidance of the British Engineering Council or something like that.
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Mar 6 2006, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 6 2006, 03:40 PM) 1) RM300K = USD 75K = USD $18.75K per year 2) RM680K = USD 170K = USD $43.75K per year And, this is for a 4 years degree program?? With that kind of money, you could have enter most of the top schools in USA. But, you would have to get a Bachelor degree first. Dreamer well, Imperial is one of the top schools in the world, comparable to Renssalaer, MIT, Caltech and others. the only plus point is that you end up with a MEng in the same time span. You may not need that figure if you get into MIT but for the rest, you may still need it if you want to increase the chances of you getting admitted.
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