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 Proton PrevĂ© V16, I'm proven. Et vous?

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post Nov 12 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(JarodLeong @ Nov 12 2012, 04:08 PM)
not many issues...just ask to do below only:
-normal service
-rusty
-driver power window
-remapping

according to the lady that attended me, COSE here lack of manpower. a lot resign.

walked to service bay just now, my car already at one of the bay there with engine on n hood open but noone was there...check behind the car, the rusty part still there... sweat.gif
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post Nov 13 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 13 2012, 01:38 AM)
Your comments are valuable and should be shared with all members here.

Do you know the material of disc brakes make of? Is it ceramic?
It isn't ceramic, it usually made of grey iron. It is prone to corrosion, or in your term - RUST.
Have a good read over here for your own knowledge, you will benefit from it.

Rust will take time to form, so how long was the Viva you inspected have exposed to wet condition as compared to the Preve? You have no idea don't you?
Will the Viva disc brake rust?

Again, you think that Preve use high performance brakes? Seriously what make you think so that a normal sedan use high performance parts and sell at reasonable price?
VW Golf TSI uses brembo disc  brake? Just wonder.

Rusty exhaust holder is a known issue and Proton has addressed to all dealers to provide measurement to overcome this matter.
I have seen Unser where the rust issue was horrible, the whole floor panel rust and it isn't just one unit. Seriously Unser that reliable to you? It was mean to be a goods carrier but Malaysians treated it as a MPV.
Oh ya, for your information where I obtained from Brembo brakes website, their disc brakes are made of high carbon iron. Iron with high carbon content usually are higher in tensile strength compared to iron with low carbon content, FYI.
Anyway, thanks for dropping by and amuse us. You did a great job.
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in be4 dont feed the troll...


Added on November 13, 2012, 9:30 am
QUOTE(aegis`- @ Nov 13 2012, 08:46 AM)
aaa blocked. sad.gif
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try google "Your Freedom"..its a software....not sure works in mac or not...

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post Nov 14 2012, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 14 2012, 07:07 PM)
@arthur
You go SC got unplug your firestorm?
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everytime go SC will unplug...but since i install firestorm, they never open my hood...next service only they open it...


Added on November 14, 2012, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(eXnikaru @ Nov 14 2012, 07:04 PM)
Arthur..
How`s the firestorm with the new mapping?
Any reviews? smile.gif
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barely anything noticeable with new mapping...just that the torque is there with firestorm...but BARELY noticeable...

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post Nov 14 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 14 2012, 07:27 PM)
Unplug only? No need take out?
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u take out?
so far i go there twice i didnt take out, but fortunately they didnt open the hood also....
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post Nov 15 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 15 2012, 01:21 PM)
How to know they updated both ecu and tcu. Some of them said the sc only update tcu but not ecu. Also, when cold start rpm not stable, keep up and down. Normal issue?
ALso, where got new ecu/tcu feedback? Want to check through then update. Later regret.
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technician update the tcu and/or ecu just by using laptop...they will connect a cable to a socket below steering.

how to know they update ecu? as i said before, observe the file they choose to update when updating new ECU...
everytime either they want to update tcu or ecu, two of this thing have to be done together...

before this, before got new ecu, i go eon sc update tcu...they use the old ecu and reflash into my car...
the step is the same, just that they use different file (the file contains ecu settings...)

if u unable to observe, then u will only know it after u drive it... whistling.gif
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post Nov 15 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 15 2012, 02:23 PM)
I know tcu improves acceleration and power. what about ecu?
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fc way lesser...tcu controls rpm..i think..
if u notice at "instant", which i mentioned several times, u will see the fuel consumption is way lesser...
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post Nov 15 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 15 2012, 02:45 PM)
ok thanks. Because everytime i go eon sg pinang, the sa all very.... like don't know anything. Some technician also same, all also don't know. Later they use old ecu and tcu also don't know. the head also not there every time, depends on luck also.
Anyway, still any issue with new ecu and tcu other than the engine mati if slot D>R fast ?
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so far, nothing bad happen yet...in future, hopefully no...


Added on November 15, 2012, 6:10 pmjust now i let my sister drive my car again...this time her feedback is...wah...i duno how come i can drive the speed up to 80km/h....so fast achieve 80km/h...next time i wan drive again...

hearing her feedback proves new ecu/tcu improves alot...

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QUOTE(jianjin1985 @ Nov 15 2012, 09:00 PM)
hi arthur, does this apply to IAFM+ ?

it seems like you getting good news from the new ECU/TCU...

my car is going to have service 10k... and i also will go so EON Sg Pinang..
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post Nov 16 2012, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 15 2012, 11:57 PM)
Had a trip to Sauk - Kuala Kangsar few hours ago for a dinner.
Had bad experience with Preve on the highway, the car hardly above to accelerate from 110km/h up to 150km/h....

Very much unlike what I had with the OLD ecu.
Hopefully its because of new ECU/TCU still learning my driving habit coz this is my first trip with more than 110km/h after the ECU/TCU mapping
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assume its because the new tcu is still learning ur driving style gua...
but mine (with firestorm), the pickup and rpm stable only...

never drive without firestorm for long period except 30-40 minutes after applying new tcu/ecu last friday...

i did try top speed on tuesday, nothing to do that night, then got one of my fren ajak me go lepak2, then i ajak him go try top speed from juru toll to taiping utara...
0-160 no problem at all...seems like it only takes 10-15 seconds to reach 160....but to reach 200 from 185, abit hard, some more traffic...but i manage to get 190 though...


Added on November 16, 2012, 7:23 am
QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 12:11 AM)
You should go. The feedback is good.
Perhaps TCU/ECU need to time to relearn everything.....
I'm still getting pretty bad FC....but pickup is much better than before.
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what is ur current fc?

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 09:54 AM)
Pickup and RPM stable are stable, but not the top end performance. I never feel struggle to accelerate a Preve from 110km/h to 150km/h, and that's on a flat surface.
FC equally bad still.
13l/100km for city driving.

Still too early to judge the ECU/TCU mapping performance, its not even first tank after the remap, as I dun trust the average fuel consumption on the SID, will only use fuelly stat.
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bro, "Had bad experience with Preve on the highway, the car hardly above to accelerate from 110km/h up to 150km/h...."

which one is correct? rclxub.gif
is it u saying hardly accelerate from 110-150 when uphill?


Added on November 16, 2012, 10:09 am
QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 09:15 AM)
Good morning to all Previans..still enjoying the holiday .. biggrin.gif

anyone tried sitting at the back of preve, moving along those taman uneven road...

notice the rattling noise on the speaker dashboard and the noise from outside is really annoying!! it is totally diff when sitting infront as the driver..

Preve need some improvement on the noise level inside the car if it wish to be a global car.....there are some other minor things not right about the car but I would just brush it aside since it is not much of a problem..ex: the front passenger door need to close harder than the rest, the boot of the car is not properly fit (a bit slanting, notice during my first wash on the car, was admiring the backside when I notice it  doh.gif  ), 'krik krik krik' sound inside the car (still figuring out where the sound come from)..
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my frens and my families complain at the back of preve very bumpy...compare to my brother's vios...

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post Nov 16 2012, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 16 2012, 09:54 AM)
Good Morning Fellow Preveians! thumbup.gif

Haapy Flying Friday Btw. rclxm9.gif So busy the whole week and now V16 edy. Congrats Marquis, the new TS!

Love all the sarcasm guys. laugh.gif  Cannot stand from laughing alone in my office.

Heard a lot of good feedback from u guys who has done the ECU/TCU remap. Other than Allen's who's managed to drive the car on a long range trip where the top speed is capped at 150-160 only. Well that's one thing is what mak me stop & think again whether should I update it or not. But like Maverick said, his FC is already good but when he drove kiapreve's car the diff is there, damn it's so tempting..

Anyhow, quick update, done 3rd service (10k) at Semambu's Proton SC (cost RM210). Been here 2nd time edy after Doctor AGF recommended me here few months ago (Thanks Doc. They also have that free-flow hot drinks for you there..)

- I don't think they have updated my ECU/TCU as my car still the same
- Tried to have me installed the magnetrap, which i sternly refused
- They know of the exhaust bracket rust. They didn't have it cleaned with sand paper first. Instead they applied the black paint directly on top of it. A poor workmanship IMO
- Submit the car at 2.10PM, got the car back 6.00PM. Almost 4 hours. When collecting the car the SA explained that my car are in the list of Proton's call back to replace the power window. Changed all except for driver's side since they have run out of stock. Will call me again when they have it.

Just my 2 cents, if it is in P2 SC, after collecting the car key from the owner, then went for the initial checking of the car, the SA will come and inform u first that they will need to change the power window bla bla bla thus you will need to wait a bit longer... But here they kept it silent. I've been wondering what were they doing with my car during that time but got nobody to ask in the office! This one old habit need to be thrown down the toilet edy laa.. Haiyya..

BTW, still loving my car. After almost sharp 6 months of using it, latest full tank (yesterday) still 754km can go. Used to have 8.6l/100km when being driven in Terengganu but after 3 months in KL it just went up to 10.00l/100km thumbup.gif
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i also started to love it also, cause quite boring here when nothing to chat about...
well, so far only allen report the problem.
bro, do u able to go to the service area instead of sitting in waiting room?
its best to go to the service area...observe what they do...

add: allen and daniel teoh...

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 16 2012, 10:32 AM)
Well they quoted me RM60 for it. In term of pros & cons, got not so much of a comment since I'm noob in this matter as well. But it has been debated few thread's back about whether it will actually works or not. IMHO, I'll wait a bit more until let say 20k then maybe I'll add it.
Hahaha.. LOL! U say u will be MIA too but instead I saw u're here chatting with these guys. Aren't u supposed to be next TS? icon_idea.gif

I think can but saw none of the customer went there so I decided not to go. I wish I did though. The waiting area is kinda comfy at least for me but u got no visibility of the outside. BTW, got an experience with PJ Volcar (I believe its PE SC) in Seapark, PJ where the waiting room is at the centre of the service bay. I mean u'll need to walk through the service bay before u can enter into the waiting room. The mechanic there seems like doesn't even know about the ECU/TCU remap but instead kep on telling me to have the car serviced despite my ODO is just 9468 at that time.. If I got my car serviced there I may be able to ask them something.
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saja tak mau jadi TS.... tongue.gif cool2.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

in my opinion, SA wont know anything/any update unless the technican told them...cause those SA not involve in repairing cars...
when i goto eon sungai pinang, those technicians seems like they know what i want to do there ady...
probably famous among them that "this fat guy always know about the internal buletin that havent release out to customer yet"
this i have to thank allen... rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 16 2012, 10:46 AM)
Damn... sweat.gif Wei, u're a state rep. U should've shown a good example to the rest of us here laa.. LOL! tongue.gif See Allen here? He did his part. When will u do yours..?  icon_idea.gif

LOL! I'm still playing the Mr.Nice Guy. If the correct time come, that Service Bulletin would be my ace up in my sleeve.. Hehehe

Oh and yes, thank you allen!
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:10 AM)
yup, bumpy and noisy..noise coming in from the doors and also from  the boot area..need to DIY sound proof..  brows.gif


Added on November 16, 2012, 11:12 am

my remedy for the 'ROAR' sound...be gentle with your accelerator ..never go beyond 2k rpm during move from stop position ..  laugh.gif
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ady did diy soundproof...for now my family only complains about noise from tyre, the fender there....for cabin noise, they can sleep soundly if i drive slow and on flat road... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:29 AM)
what did you use for the DIY soundproof? Insuflex or Superlon? Try this for the fender noise smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...24324&hl=fender

OR this

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...40358&hl=fender
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no no, i only put on doors....that's y i said my family complains about noise from tyre...


Added on November 16, 2012, 2:24 pm
QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 16 2012, 11:29 AM)
you even do on the doors and hood? I put rubber on my 4 doors already make it very hard to close.
Still finding any good place that offers soundproofing in penang.
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previously KL auto got come penang do...u didnt do?
aaronz aka azwatup...forget this lyn name...got do...


Added on November 16, 2012, 2:26 pm
QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 12:25 PM)
Actually the correct procedure is, whoever read and receive the email, will print out and show everyone. Brief technician and SA.
For my previous post, it was typo. I struggle to accelerate from 110km to 150km/h, flat surface. The engine roar like mad, like Vios....sigh
Perhaps my car still very much virgin if with 4k mileage, since all the 4k are done within city. Hardly speed above 120km/h
Hey guys, tried the engine mounting mod with fuel line. Effective DIY mod, cheap and easy.
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4k mileage only.....hmm....cannot comment much...see after few full tanks the problem still there or not...

the engine mounting...not really knw how to do....just glance thru ystdy...

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post Nov 17 2012, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Nov 17 2012, 01:27 PM)
Bro Arthur, regarding the software learning our driving style, I'm quite confused about this.  rclxub.gif

Logically and theoretically, TCU learning driving style should happen in minutes, but not take days or weeks. I say this because if a family car that shares between family members, some of them drive gently, some heavy foot, so which style the software should adapt to?

From what my friend who was a Peugeot salesman told me last time (knowledge from their training), the system adapt to the driver's driving style and decide when to shift gear (or shift ratio in CVT), this happened within minutes we start driving the car. Whenever we stop the engine, removed the key, the software will revert back to normal (default) setting on the next engine start. This sound more logical to me, what is the point if the car took so long (days or weeks) to learn a driver's driving style? Adapting individual style for optimal shift pattern should be better than took days or weeks to sum up all the drivers' style and give average shift pattern right?
I am ok with the engine and CVT sound, maybe I seldom do rush-driving. My main complain about "noise" is the tyre noise, extremely annoying. Not sure if the original tyres too noisy or and sound proof not so good?
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for the TCU learning our driving style, how it works need to refer back to mat79...i also share to u guys what he told me...

sound proof not good la...every car comes out from factory sound proof not that good...


Added on November 17, 2012, 4:36 pm
QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 17 2012, 01:42 PM)
their head technician update ecu and tcu for me. After update, the initial power really great. I straight go highway and test, press metal awhile already 100km/h.
But I can feel the jerk little bit although reduced alot. climb hill is a piece of cake. I can feel turbo kicks in at 1.8 rpm already.
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feedback after u drive more than a week, there are minor changes that make u feel weird...
i'm not saying anything unless others state it out...could be just my car only...

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i think it would be good if the SID lights and other red lights in cabin change to blue...

at night, my eyes quite blurred when seeing the SID and other red lights...
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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Nov 19 2012, 04:49 PM)
Red lights more Audi feel mar.... hehehe.....! Actually I like it more than my previous Persona's orange lights, haha....
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something like this also nice...at least not whole SID red...
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when i google for changing color meter panel, found this instead..



not really the effect i imagined...but the concept is there...

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wrong comment due to ben 3003 havent finish post...

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