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 Arsenal Street Talk, 18 December 2012 | 0355 | REA v. ARS

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post Nov 12 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Nov 11 2012, 03:10 PM)
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Awful. Absolutely awful. Winning goal irrelevant at end there. Can't protect a lead. Pointless. Utterly pointless. We're at that stage we were at the back end of the 11/12 season after the Carling Cup final where you couldn't cheer a goal. It was impossible too because you knew we'd concede. It's back to that, now. It just seems worthless using your energy to do so because you now expect to concede every game.

That's Fulham at home. 3 goals shipped in to Fulham, at home. From a 2-0 lead as well. Honestly, it's shocking. Unbelievably we look a centre back short again. As in, we look like we could do with another because the others no longer look up to it. I'm sick & *bleep* tired of the same old shit, shit mistakes being churned out, year after year after year. We're a GK short. We're a CB short. We need a left back. We need a tough tackling midfielder and we're a striker short as well and we've been all of those short for f***ing years now.

There's something wrong within the club, it's not just the players. Because its a completely different personnel than it was 4 years ago, but they continue to make the same glaringly obvious mistakes, it's getting boring now, victory is now a surprise, irrespective of whom the opposition are. We needed the likes of Podolski, Giroud & Cazorla on top of the players we had last season. On top of them. Additions.

But with the subsequent sales of Van Persie, Song & Theo in January, they will have all turned into replacements. All we've done, summer after summer is look to replace when we've needed additions on top of what we've already had. Sell 1, buy 1. Buy 1, sell 1. We need to start buying 2 before we're selling 1. It's all wrong, the mentality is all wrong & finally had enough. I try & be as positive & as supportive as I can be, but I can't find it in me to cheer a goal, because I think we'll concede every game. I can't believe in 2012/13 we've relied on the likes of Abou Diaby & Rosicky to be fit. Honestly, if someone would have told you in 2009 that in 2012, you will miss Diaby & Rosicky, I'd have said you're mental. They won't be at the club then. We've pinned our hopes on those two staying fit for a season when they've never managed that before!? It makes no sense what so ever... and I'm sorry, but there is something fundamentally wrong, within the club, and finally, after years of witnessing the same thing & trying to find excuse after excuse, whilst searching for the positives, I can't find them anymore. I'd like to hold my hands up & say I'm sorry, but I don't know any more. I don't know what's wrong, where we're going or what we're doing. I'm completely totally & utterly lost & I no longer have an answer for anything anymore.

The personnel problems started right at the end of the 07/08 season. We pushed Utd & Chelsea right to the 37th fixture that year & perhaps we should have won it. But we should have sat down & evaluated what was needed. But nope, we made do. It was the start of us 'making do'.

We lost Diarra, Lehmann, Flamini, Gilberto, & Hleb. We bought Ramsey & Nasri... Then made do. We probably needed a Nasri on top of what we had in order to push that one last bit. Subsequently, there were no additions. We barely replaced. We bought Arshavin in Jan when we should have bought him in the summer previous. Clawed our way to 4th. That summer? Lose Toure &Adebayor. In? Vermaelen. Again, we needed a Vermaelen on top of what we had, so again, no additions. Just making do, once again. We then finally made an attempt to replace those two losses a whole year later with Koscielny & Chamakh. So where are the additions? To help push on? By now, we've lost Eduardo as well.

We go into 2011 summer. We lose Nasri, Cesc, Eboue & Clichy. We're down. We already needed additions to compete, on top of what we had so now, we're *bleep* basically. We send a depleted side to Old Trafford& Arsene lines up 4-3-3 & they're ripped apart from 1st minute to last. Embarrassing. How dare he line that side up as open as that, at Old Trafford. 4-5-1, pack that midfield out & play flat. Come away with a 2/3 goal defeat, people understand. But we've left ourselves in a position where we're selecting left backs who are being sold the very next day. Why the f***, how the f***, is Traore getting anywhere near that starting XI!?

We then leave it last minute, in true supermarket sweep fashion to bring in Mertesacker, Santos, Arteta & Benayoun. Ok, you've made your purchases. Not everyone's choice, but you've made them never the less. We'll get behind them...& as much as I love the likes of Arteta &as much as I respect & appreciate that we somehow finished 3rd in a shit-off between ourselves Tottenham, Chelsea & Newcastle - we knew what we needed so that we wouldn't find ourselves in this position again. We knew, we all did & at the start we thought the club did too. We went out & completed deals for Pod, Giroud & Cazorla. It was exciting, because finally, after years of not doing so, squad personnel/options looked good again. It may have been good enough. But then every single one of us was smacked in the face with the sales of Van Persie, Song & the Theo issue not being resolved. "Sorry, Theo. We can't offer you that extra 10k or whatever you want a week because Mr 28 year old & Mr 30 year old have no footballing ambition whatsoever & want to sit on thier 50/60k p/w wages which prevents us from keeping our most dangerous player, which you are. Bye." Makes... no... f***ing... sense... WHATSOVER. Its the clubs fault we'll lose Theo, not his. Not his at all. And once again we find ourselves in the same, moronic, tiresome position of being short in the exact, same positions we have been for yeeeaaarrrs.

It's not on, it's not acceptable. We're not Everton. We don't have to sell before we can buy & hope we find a gem. David Moyes has to make do because they haven't a pot to piss in.Which wouldn't bother me if we were in the same position. But we have pots. f***ing loads of 'em. Each & every single board member has their own individual diamond encrusted, gold rimmed pot to urinate all over whenever the f*** they like.

This club does not give itself a chance, on the pitch. We make do through choice, not because we have to. We don't compete because we choose not to compete. Not because we can't. Year after year, all we do, is make do. No conviction. No direction. No ambition. Farce.

...and there's not a single person out there who knows how much its taken me to voice an opinion as strong as that.
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I agree to some extent that the Board has so much influence in our success and failure on the pitch. Their refusal to raise the salary of our previous ex players means they have the choice to move to another team that is willing. Call it what you may....greed, disloyal, impatient. Our club stuck with the belief that a controlled salary system would stabalize the club in the long run....but is it really all that? Why do they keep rising the ticket price, why does it always means a lot that our team is making big money elsewhere where football is nonrelevant? Being so successful in tight financial control and prudence, its fair that us fans and the players have waited patiently for the Board to open up some space for investment in the team. Not only in buying the 'right' players, but also keeping the existing ones. Over the years, there've been many variations of reasons to why they left the club... but I simply can't help to notice the similarities of dissent when these so-called 'traitors' speak about Arsenal, the manager and the Board. Arsenal isn't ambitious enough.

For me, its time high time we hit the panic button. Last season, we we're proven to be prospect league winners despite being third. This season, we bought senior players, national players and world class at that. NOT YOUTHS. It was all sunny and rainbows in preseason. So for January market, I'd buy the best player good money can buy. when I say best, I mean top 10 players in the world. Buy RVP if all I care. 200m quids to splurge in one go. F&%* the Board for all I care.
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yeah, striker isn't much of an urgency. Its the creativity and supplies from midfield that we lack.
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Mikel Arteta is doing a decent job, but I would prefer a different position for him. To me, he is a temporary fix for our ongoing defensive problems.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Nov 13 2012, 01:06 PM)
Giroud is a proper out an out striker that will get you 20-30 goals a season with the right kind of service. Our wingers and fullbacks will be crucial. The sooner we get Gibbs back the better. Vermaelen on the left gives us probably better defense and tackling to a certain extent but going forward Podolski so often gets isolated without someone to make those overlapping runs and draw defenders. Gibbs isn't the best crosser but hey if you don't buy a ticket you won't win the lottery and Vermaelen offers almost nil in this area.

Im not surprised by our slump. The alarm bells were ringing already after the Norwich performance which i immediately pointed out but as usual some people just refuse to accept that there is something wrong with this club at the moment.

Don't get me wrong I do believe this squad is still good enough. No time for the lads to feel sorry for themselves though as its the NLD this Saturday. Perfect stage for them to bounce back but also potentially a huge banana skin. A win is must this weekend.

Btw Arshavin has been fantastic lately. He has had a big impact in the last 3-4 games he has played. I'd fancy him a start on Saturday and perhaps bench Poldi.
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My point exactly! At the moment, our tactics seems very predictable. Against offensive teams like Fulham, QPR and Sp*rs, we might have a chance to score a few from crosses, but against defensive minded teams, these tactics ain't going to work much. Its pretty obvious when the players are dumbstruck to how to getting pass the parked bus.
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I share the same sentiment as Vinci777. Arteta is doing well in his DM position, but I prefer he stays upfront where he is technically better.
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post Nov 15 2012, 10:39 AM

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fark dat. Wayne Rooney bicycle kick 10x better. whistling.gif
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post Nov 15 2012, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Nov 15 2012, 04:47 PM)


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"You get points for another sports for that!"
Farking hillarious mang! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(billygoh @ Nov 17 2012, 10:38 PM)
FT 5-2
great comeback from arsenal..
best performance by arsenal this season so far biggrin.gif
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I could've sworn it was last season. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(smellyfish @ Nov 17 2012, 10:40 PM)
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Lets just hope this will be the turning point for Arsenal to sart winning and chase back the league leaders just like last season. Weird enough, Arsenal is always keen to play the underrated team years after ears despite showing potentials early seasons.
A win is a win, and I'm happy to see so many of or players are on the scoresheet. That goes to show that the players are playing better as a team than individuals. The delaying plays are okay to me, despite us not showing intents on attacking, it does prove to further irrate our opponents and make them less construct having less possesion of the ball. Obviously as fans who is sitting comfortably on our asses with chips and drinks on or hands, we'd prefer them to entertain us with showers of attacking orchestry. So, give them a break. Its Sp*rs we're playing here.... and its fun seeking them chasing our possession and break them down inside out with tiki taka.
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I know a lot of fans have much hate towards Ade, but personally I still have much respect of him as a footballer and an individual. He was one of my favourite players back in Arsenal and I still enjoy seeing him play to this day. I just hate seeing the relationship went sour to the core. Probably doesn't help the situation when he returns ever so often going against his former team mates and the Emirates fans.
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I can't believe Wenger actually listened to what I said about Raheem Sterling. At first I thought it was just rumors going around about Arsenal wanting to exchange Theo with Sterling, but seems to be a few quotes and statements and recent rumors going around that makes it very much believable.

But, but but.....wasn't Theo the goodson of Arsene before? For me, Theo has proven his worth for the past few seasons. If anyone deserves a raise, its our very own homegrown player. We basically raised him to be what he is today, so why should the Board be too hard on a reasonable request?
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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Nov 19 2012, 10:54 AM)
Interested in the quotes and statements. Where can I read it up?

And if talking about statements, AW said he won't let Walcott go at January even if he didn't sign the contract. So now which is which? Exchanging Theo with Sterling? Keeping Theo till end of season?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...fer-window.html
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Yeah, must've fogged up my glasses hearing about Sterling. I guess its more of statements being twisted by the medias. Still, there is the familiar signs of players being sold every season at Arsenal. I bet us fans won't be surprised if the exchange do goes down in the summer. I like to be proven wrong, because I would love to see Theo stays at the Emirates, but even if I'm right, what can us mere fans do to vent our frustrations towards the boss Board over selling our best players at every chance they get?

Say what you will about ex-players who choose money over loyalty. Hleb, Cesc, Nasri, Adebayor, Song, RVP.....in the end its still money exchanged between two parties. And what do us fans get? Dissapointments, disgusts, disbelieve, degraded.
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QUOTE(rickysay @ Nov 19 2012, 11:46 AM)
Cesc was paid less from Barca than he was in Arsenal. blush.gif It was clear he was not in for the money but for trophies and homesickness.
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What I meant was the money paid to the clubs aka the Boards for the transfer/purchase. A good example is Alex Song.
Barca paid £15m fees to the Board. It was at the time when Song was the perfect DM we needed then and now. Typically us fans felt shortchanged over the sale, but the Board doesn't feel the same way, simply because they got good money out of it, while us fans have long realise that we're f*xked without a solid DM. Yea of course Arteta took over, but my butt is still sore over that unnecessary sale despite what the Board claim as unsettled player in the dressing room.
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Missed the game yesterday. I was too tired from the day before. Woke up this morning to hear the pleasant news. Very good news to start my day. Would love to see the whole match later. thumbup.gif
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Please guys, have faith in Carl Jenkinson. Prior to Sagna return, he played an excellent role at RB. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ Nov 25 2012, 01:25 AM)
Thx! You're my saviour. rclxms.gif
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Wow, Amazing crowd over there. Its like playing in the finals. Just love the intensity. I think once the first goal registers, there'd be more stability in our game.
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QUOTE(ohhisee @ Nov 25 2012, 02:21 AM)
can know who will be out..pod,rambo,ox..
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Judging from the performance, I think everyone will stay for 2nd half. 70th minutes subs is anyone guess, but I'd give Walcott a chance if the score remains the same.
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Nov 25 2012, 02:28 AM)
as i know, his crossing was equally bad at times so...
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Yup, Sagna's crosses are average at best.

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