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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.18, D5200 announced, what next? D400?

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celciuz
post Nov 10 2012, 02:47 PM

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D5100 and D7000? Definitely D7000! Much better build and the controls is closer to pro body.
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post Nov 10 2012, 04:41 PM

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Anyone uses those LED video light for portrait?
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post Nov 10 2012, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2012, 07:50 PM)
i tried those smaller ones for product, not strong enough unless u do longer exposure...so for portrait u going to need much bigger ones but i doubt u will still get enough dof.
stick with ur flashes.
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I saw some tutorials on this guy using it... results seems pretty acceptable. Actually even easier to use than flash since its continuous, focus also easier IMO.
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post Nov 10 2012, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2012, 08:07 PM)
of cos can be done with led, just how many led are u willing to use to get enough power.
if ur talking about those smaller 120 /160 / 198 led panels, then you probably need more tongue.gif

anyway why cannot use a regular light to help focus? or even use one led to help focus?
then when comes to exposure time, set the flash to overpower those lights so u can get more proper dof / higher shutter speed etc.
same as for studio strobes which have modelling lights which are continuous also.
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Yeap, was referring to those small LED panels.

http://neilvn.com/tangents/flash-photograp...es/video-light/

I think the outcome's pretty good if based on the video as per above.

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post Nov 10 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2012, 08:46 PM)
ah niekerk...got one of his books.
he doesnt show his exposure settings there, but i think hes roughly shooting around f/4?
tho i think that video is just a rough demo, cos the written stuff there says he uses it as additional light, not main light.
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Not sure what settings, but its usable... plus modern camera nowadays can bump ISO up anyways. Then again, the demo he did only had 1 little LED light source.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 10 2012, 08:46 PM)
I saw before some photographer use it for weding photoshoot. Not sure how's the outcome result tough.
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Kinda curious on using that hehe... Digging best price for a YN-160 II now to play first.
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post Nov 10 2012, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(gnome @ Nov 10 2012, 10:13 PM)
Studio just bought that yungnuo led light last week for video use. The thing is quite bright for a small size lol
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It comes with a remote control right? Go try do some portraiture with just that light see what's the outcome!
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post Nov 11 2012, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(gnome @ Nov 10 2012, 11:00 PM)
The one we're using doesnt have a remote i think hmm.gif

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There are like 4 settings iirc. Low, normal, bright and super bright laugh.gif
Will try to test and report back here soon laugh.gif
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I think the YN-160 II I'm considering has 16 levels of brightness and comes with a remote. I saw Pro Images (Shop in Melaka) selling for RM248 on FB.

QUOTE(gerald7 @ Nov 10 2012, 11:09 PM)
Ive used video light for prewedding shoot before at Cameron. It was my friends gear & idea. We were not using LED lights, back then still dont have yet (maybe), we use actual sony video lights which was warmer color. Had a dial to adjust the intensity. Very directional and very good results, only thing is the halogen heats up real fast and real hot. For a noob like me who didnt know much about flash or gels, it gave fantastic results.
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Ahh, its those bulb based video light? Must have been quite hot! How long does the battery last?

QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Nov 11 2012, 08:43 AM)
so far everyone is recommending the D7000. Personally I like the D5100 better tongue.gif

It's smaller and lighter, easier to bring around. Flip screen is useful for overhead shooting and camwhoring (i have too few photos of myself haha). I also like the fact that all the buttons are on the right side, so you only need one hand to change settings!

focus motor depends on what lens are you actually going to buy. No point getting body with focus motor if u end up buying AF-S lenses anyway tongue.gif
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I would definitely prefer the D7000 instead,

D7000 has better grip, nicer to hold. Dual commander dials for manual and aperture --> more buttons and no need to get into menu that often as compared to D5100, option to add a Nikon original battery grip, does 6fps, 100% VF coverage, and dual slot SD, and I think D7000 can do 14-bit NEF RAW which D5100 can't.

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post Nov 11 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2012, 10:05 PM)
i was looking at yongnuo also before.
but there is another brand i checked out called led-5009 which has 120 leds, but comes with its own rechargeable batt...which for me better since i only got 8pcs AA...and i want to use flash also.
maybe one day i go back check again and use a lightmeter app and measure how strong it is.
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This Yongnuo can use those big lithium ion battery too if don't want to use AA. But then again I prefer using AA since AA cheaper and I can use for my flash hehe.

I saw another brand with model CN-160, this one can stack the LED together!

QUOTE(piscesguy @ Nov 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
D7000 has 39 focus point..its important for bokeh shots, for wide angle shots..i can live with 3 focus point..hehe
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Really? But I shoot at f/1.4 and I use only center AF hmm.gif , also can use! In fact I feel more confident using the center AF (or rather the center 15 cross sensor) than the sensors which is non cross on my D700/D800.
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post Nov 11 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(akcatzstudio @ Nov 11 2012, 10:30 AM)
Guys if the shutter die then can replace rite?

So far my D300s already 70k+ haha
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No, you need to scrap the entire unit.

Nah, just kidding. Of course you can change the shutter. Signs of your shutter dying is that when you shoot 1/8000s, and 1/2000s, you get same exposure.
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post Nov 11 2012, 10:17 PM

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Just back from an outdoor photoshoot... damn I'm so rusty already sad.gif damn little keepers and just 2 flash isn't enough to shoot... my partner went to New York for holiday dry.gif.
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post Nov 12 2012, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(slimfox @ Nov 12 2012, 12:57 AM)
I'm just itchy done even know the price, but if around 2200-2500 worth the buy cause its about D7000 spec
Sorry D5100 also does 14bit raw pls check nikon website and wiki ya. To me d5100 is the poor mans d7000 with a few less dials and features.
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Sorry my bad, so even entry body comes with 14-bit RAW nowadays. Awesome! But then again, single dial --> major turn off for me.

Side note, D5100 can only do lossy compressed 14-bit instead of lossless like D7000?

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post Nov 12 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(akcatzstudio @ Nov 11 2012, 10:44 AM)
LOL!

Oh i seee how much will it be? Haha im just curious
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If not mistaken, D300s was about RM400+? I'm not too sure about this, you can try emailing Nikon for the quotation.

QUOTE(gerald7 @ Nov 11 2012, 11:10 AM)
cant recall exactly but it lasted one the whole morning. But we dont leave it ON always, jst when we needed it. Im also thinking of getting some LED ones as Im going into HDslr video.  rclxub.gif
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Roughly? 1 hour? 2 hours?

QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Nov 11 2012, 03:49 PM)
Guys, is this a good filter........? Seems like a good deal.......... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

http://shashinki.com/shop/77mm-ultraviolet...ce-p-10920.html
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Nope, stick to filters such as Hoya HMC if you're on low budget. Go for multicoat filters.

QUOTE(seather @ Nov 11 2012, 04:46 PM)
SB700 = ~RM950 (quoted 6 months ago la)
Sandisk SD i bought for ~RM90 2 months ago... but dunno the promo still on or not....
sud get D7000 punya GGS screen no?  hmm.gif

since D600 is a FX in a D7000 body laugh.gif
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Different LCD size I think, D7000 uses a 3" but the D600 is 3.2" like the D800.

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Nov 11 2012, 07:49 PM)
got my D800 yesterday..seems like 16GB card only gets me 200 RAW files lossless compressed..and 249 RAW files compressed..both 14bit..

looking to upgrade my CF and SD in a short while but just wondering..is there alot of different between lossless compressed and compressed?

thanks guys!
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Never did a comparison between both lossless and lossy before, but I remember seeing the lossless retaining more shadows details back then. (It was a D700 review comparing different NEF settings), should be applicable to D800 as well.

16GB would get you a little more than 320 shots on 14-bit lossless NEF based on my experience so far.

QUOTE(gnome @ Nov 11 2012, 11:00 PM)
Flash is something that you will keeping for a looooooooong time. Trust me biggrin.gif
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Bought my SB900 back in 2009, still using it! flex.gif

QUOTE(slimfox @ Nov 12 2012, 09:31 AM)
That is true that is why I did mention "Poor Man's D7000" anyway its a good camera for the price. If budget is not an issue then even I would have gone for the d7000. My regular shop has been trying to poison me for a long time.

But for me currently I figured I would rather spend my $ on lenses than another body.  smile.gif
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Oh well, I still feel D7000 is a better purchase compared to D5100.


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 11 2012, 07:54 PM)
hmm new model.
tho i guess 16 lvls of brightness is more useful for video.

actually the one i wanted to get is the aputure 198c.
198 leds, around rm260, and can adjust the color temperature without using gels.
tho not many have it in stock yet...some aputure sellers dont even know it exists.
the yongnou li-on batt must buy with seperate charger right? so i guess about extra rm120.
that led-5009 one is rm160 with the li-on batt + charger...how long it can last i dunno tongue.gif
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That Aputure 198C looks good, it is able to stack up unlike the Yongnuo.

I'll ask around if this is available or not hehe.

btw saw this.. the 198C and 198A can't work with all LED powered up...

"Hi Pedro, the lux for the lights are as follows: AL 126: 673 lux, AL 160: 1245 lux, AL 198: 1325 lux, AL 198A @ 25 degrees: 734-913 lux, AL 198A & 60 degrees: 286-364 lux, AL 198C at 3200K: 321-407 lux, AL 198C at 5500K: 298-344 lux." The 198A/C LED isn't any close to the old normal 198 with 1325 lux!

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post Nov 12 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(MrAkay @ Nov 12 2012, 11:27 AM)
local = you can only claim in malaysia only.

international = anywhere there is a nikon serivce center
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What I understand also is Nikon Malaysia don't honor the 'international warranty', so becareful ;-).

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Nov 12 2012, 12:06 PM)
buddy, my CF card is empty (as shown on my computer) and i get 200 RAW shots shown on the display.

but thanks to u, now i know that the display is lying to me laugh.gif tried it a while ago and i get up to 346 shots with my empty 16GB card. any reason why the display's lying tho?

thanks again man. really good to have such experienced user here thumbup.gif

*kinda helps me in a way as most of my memory card sellers need to order the cards and it may take up to 2weeks time and i got an assignment this upcoming 17th..sigh*
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The display didn't lie, the camera only estimate based on say 50MB per file but since you're shooting on lossless compression mode, files can vary from 40MB~75MB which basically throws the estimation off. I think if you shoot on uncompressed you would probably get about 200 shots?
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QUOTE(ongdennis @ Nov 12 2012, 02:06 PM)
anyone heard of this kind of lcd protector?
http://www.acmaxx.net/products_acmaxx.html
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It will attach itself to the screen? I have seen another brand with this kinda of fitting on, much pricier than GGS first gen.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Nov 12 2012, 02:23 PM)
hong kong is selling the D800E for HKD 25,800
in case anyone wants to know

that is roughly RM 10,100+
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What's the selling price here in Msia? Street price that is. I was told the D800 grey set (HK set) is about RM8500.

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Nov 12 2012, 02:24 PM)
should be correct. meaning all the shots are in the same sizes. lossless compressed is good enough for me i suppose laugh.gif after all, the camera's dynamic range is amazing! thumbup.gif
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Well, the reason it is called lossless compression is that full details can be uncompressed. I'm not sure if this is applicable when using third party software such as Adobe Camera Raw or Lightroom.

QUOTE(ongdennis @ Nov 12 2012, 02:48 PM)
i also not sure, saw it from ebay.
but to remove it seem need to use hair dyer to blow first then only able to take out.

GGS until now didnt announce for D600 yet...
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There is another brand, I have one made for D800 but I didn't use it yet and there's no 'model' marking on it maybe you're interested tongue.gif but none for top LCD.
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Kyra feat. RX-8 by CY Pixels, on Flickr
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QUOTE(gnome @ Nov 12 2012, 09:45 PM)
The same kyra as before?
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nod.gif same girl, same location, different ride.

QUOTE(mls_gamer @ Nov 12 2012, 09:48 PM)
CY smile.gif
got any event this weekend ????
car shows, pet shows.....etc ..????
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No idea... didn't follow on the events hehe.
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post Nov 16 2012, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(slowkancil @ Nov 15 2012, 11:24 PM)
mine setup...

15-30
50 f1.8
85 f1.8 (urs previously)

2 body, d600, and d70
3 flash...
oh.. an umbrella and couple of light stand....

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Flash on right no modifier? Harsh shadow on bride's face.
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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Nov 16 2012, 09:15 AM)
Is this CPL filter recommended..........? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

http://shashinki.com/shop/hoya-digital-cir...7mm-p-3069.html
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Yeap, that's the least you should be looking at. If you have more budget can consider the B+W as well.

I'm using a Hoya HD 77mm CPL, so far so good. Used mostly when shooting motorsport LOL, but most of the time I'm just too lazy to switch the filters.
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:16 AM)
Im shooting videos w/ 5dmk2 / 7D.. currently testing to see if our new d600 video can fit in our workflow or not. But Canon live view zooming is really way better than Nikons. And the best part for me is ability to load custom picture styles for flat video. Gonna real world test the d600 tonite wink.gif wish me luck!
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I'm new to video, kinda interested to know what's the differences in terms of live view zooming between the Canon and say, D600/D800?

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