we, the victims definitely have few backup plans. we've discusses and shared infos among us in quite detailed manner and we do hv enough contact details of his relatives and inner circle. just in case.
in his case, we can definitely listen to his explaination. i'd say LISTEN.. believe what he said? humm not totally.

and this thread will be bumped from time to time, to keep it afloat, so that people will be aware of this guy. until all victims get the agreed payments. until then, we hope more victims would come here and let ourselves be heard.

This post has been edited by jonn zee: Nov 2 2012, 08:48 AM

agreed with u jonn..

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Added on November 2, 2012, 9:14 amu oso kena?

This post has been edited by Izanis: Nov 2 2012, 09:14 AM

updated first page

so he did lie..

the amount did reach 20k+...

scammer is always a scammer

even dare to blame victim..

hi ts, pls help update mine.. total scammed rm2430, he refund me 430 already.. balance rm2000.. thx

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Added on November 2, 2012, 12:02 pmhi ts, pls help update mine.. total scammed rm2430, he refund me 430 already.. balance rm2000.. thx

This post has been edited by lthwa: Nov 2 2012, 12:02 PM

congratulation to u

UPDATE liao

That guy already refunded to me today...
So i am settled with him(Promised him to delete all the info)
Thanks TS for providing me all the info and guide.
Really appreciate it.
Case closed for me

This post has been edited by ken-24-: Nov 16 2012, 03:12 PM

Look, maybe its time for cases like this to be brought to court. No, not criminal, because that means losing money.

File this under civil claim. Then you have a lot of options to force him to pay.

Tribunal is one way, but civil courts can do more damage to a scammers wallet. I can help guide, but the rest is up to you guys. If you are up to it, then maybe something can be arranged.

I guess its time to do so. YES he did paid rm300 out of rm330. But the way he text me as if I'm the one who owe him money. Kindly guide us accordingly

Fitri, hope u guide us pls.. cos he seems refuse to pay me the balance rm2000..

just straight go and make police report la bro..why still give him face?

yup agreed.. refuse pay go to police and file a police report..

Walao , if it is me , i will accept the rm300 refund , then for the rm30 i will give it to him , and i will still go and make the police report like he owe me rm3000 and screw him up , damn it how can he still be so cocky and ignorant after all of these shit he put on you all faces ...

Sure, there is no problem, you all can go and make the police report, and the reaction is probably the same, which is this is a civil matter. Something parallel with be like the Genneva case, which falls under the purview of BNM, even if the whole incident has elements of fraud in it.

2. The alasan of "I will have my lawyer record" is just to scare you guys la. Any lawyer stupid enough to bring this type of case to the courts will have his ass handed to him with cost - There is a saying, "You come to court with clean hands". Regardless of what you may hear, courts really, really don't like dirty handed plaintiffs coming in and trying to cheat people. As of now, save whatever his name, ic, phone number, sms, pm conversation and such.

3. Here is another element. If the AG - The real party who decides to charge people charges him, you'll lost the right to the monies, sort of collateral damage.

Decide first what you guys want to do. Really, really want to do. I do understand, sometimes the need for some sort of payback may satisfy the vengeful need many may have.

But there is also a need to be practical here.

Total RM6400

And no a single cent refund to me yet.

Kindly update the list.

UPDATED

any updates?? yesterday my phone was barred and discovered was charged back from Paypal, called the scammer, added another rm600 x 1 into my payment, but still awaitng for rm400, he promised by this week