Hi all , I just buy the iBook G3 from my fren , basicly i only use iWork and photoshop also Internet explorer . But i feel very slow when i use OSX 10.2 , but smooth when OS 9.2 , 9.2 Smooth but more software is not supported , if i upgrade to tiger or panther , will it more smooth or worst ?

Hope everyone here can help, BTW i am a newbie use APPLE.

Panther would be better than Jaguar definitely...but i dun think Tiger is that suited for your iBook...if you have a large HDD...try to use Panther for CS and other X appz...other than that use back 9 to run old appz...it's a lot faster for your PB G3...

agreed. 500MHz is a little too little for Tiger

Tiger is a memory hog, especially with Dashboard running in the background. You're better off with Panther instead....

I'm running Panther on my Powermac G3 300Mhz. Yes u read it right 300Mhz. But i have load up 680MB of RAM. So 10.3.9 run without problem. A bit laggy when open up drive because of slow bus speed. Other wise is ok. But I didnt do work on it, it's my file server at home

If you want to run Tiger on ur iBook, disable spotlight & dashboard. load up ur RAM.

Thanks A Lot everyone , what the diffrent btween panther and tiger? i still can using MAC OS 9 , when i formatting my HDD? or need to install back OS 9 and X?

hey siemens... if you want to upgrade to Panther, you can keep your data. Don't worry.

Yep , I suggest you to move to Tiger

Tiger is a RAM eater , if you open Dashboard up..thats it...Panther should do a good job , you could try Tiger too..It should run "okayy"

are you contradicting yourself again....?

When i get this iBook , inside many data , applications , start up items . When i boot up OS X , it seen to be loading many data and take long time to start up , but when OS 9.2 it will start up "extreme" fast ! Thats why i need to format the HDD ,and try Tiger or Panther . I now downloading MAC OS X 10.4 CD version from BT .

I have facing a problems is , the all file is "CD1.dmg , CD2.dmg , CD3.dmg , CD4.dmg" will it booting when i burn directry to disc? i mean i am using PC download and PC burn it too... (iBOOK G3 does't have CD-RW rom) .

you do have a problem. Mac OS X Tiger is a DVD lar... what Cd1 and all this rubbish la.

phanter u just need CD1 only ler, others no need

what??? den what i download 1 cant use lo? ......

change ur iBook's HDD to a larger and faster (5400rpm) HDD and bump up the ram, that alone should be enough to help speed things up

Now the HDD is ATA66 15GB , how many RPM donno la .. hehe , i got think to upgrade the HDD oso , HDD easy get la , but RAM ar , so susah .... SD RAM now very few to see

Back to topic , u meant the HDD speed will inclease the performance? at loading or copying file ? Somewhere i hear ppl say Apple G3 processor if 500MHz same as pentium 3 1GHz , but when i using Apple now does't think so i think worst then Pentium II 500Mhz , but still haven know la ... coz i still downloading the Tiger .. maybe tiger will soft this thing ?

yo dude.... look for this guy, sonic_cd.... PM him and ask....

He has an iBook G3, not sure at what speed, but he does run OSX on it, also not sure if it's Panther or Tiger.... just ask him.....

Thanks you~

neither wan . its 10.2 jaguar though i did install 10.3 for a while(thank our local cd-shop ) 10.3 is ok but runs slowly,so reinstalled back 10.2 from the restore disc ... mine`s on a 800mhz g3 with 384mb ram and a 30gb hdd

your iBook's HDD speed is 4200rpm for sure.
A G3 500mhz = P3 1Ghz? I'm not sure... probably.

I know that my 667mhz G4 Powerbook can still run World of Warcraft but laggy. hehe RAM wise, you can try testing and see if ur iBook runs ok (without kernel panic) using PC Ram. Other than that, ur's an iBook so I doubt that there's much you can do to speed things up by a lot. Just stick to using OS9 and older software la.

Ooo ic .... it's seen to be no hope for using OSX tiger and later Mac software huh? I like Apple design , so i very happy to grap 1 iBook from my fren.

Got ppl upgrade processor before? hehehe ... ask only la ...

I don't think there's any upgrades for the iBook G3.... not sure about G4 though....

There is for PowerBook G3..Pismo , there are some upgrades for the older one

Pismo? What is that? ahaha ......

1 thing again, How to view or disable the Start Up Items or Running Task? like Windows XP :

Start >> Run >> "msconfig" can on\off startup loading items.

Ctrl + Alt + Del = Task Manager?

System Preferences >> Accounts >> Login Items

as for running tasks, got to Applications >> Utilities >> Activity Monitor.....

Task Manager = (Assuming that you want to quit programs)

Go to Apple Menu and select Force Quit (yes , the force is very strong with this one)

There is a shortcut key too..I still dont get the short cut key right

Force quitting = Command + Option + Escape

I got it ~ Thanks for all help ya~

no upgrades though there was one article talking about overclocking the ibook ....

yeah, can upgrade the processor actually, but better careful ooo, it might damage the plastics.... u can use xl8r or another one dunno call sonnet

can spray paint the plastic what

on some slower machines the beach ball always comes out because of the spotlight feature as it keeps indexing the drive...


you can opt to format and install or jus install straight...if the latter is the case your OS9 will just become the classic mode...you won't lose your data...

if you opt to format...you either have to reinstall OS9 for classic mode or just dump in a G5 additional install disc if you can find 1 to reload classic...but might not boot up OS9 or may lose some components if bootable...

but i think a clean install is better...

you might lose some printer drivers...and some other apps

Ooooo... ic ... i am newbie using Apple some feutures need to learn more .. My download has stop due no seed tomorrow got to go Low Yat buy a cd (waste my 1week time to download just 56.91%)

U mean if i buy the 10.3 OSX does't come with OS9 inside? or need to buy1 OS9 cd?

if you got OS9 installed , you dont need OS9

OSX 10.3 does not include any *OS9*

I just got the OS X Panther , how to install it ar? i mean format eand install , when i put in to CD-rom it will read so long and come out . Got many file inside . like Install mac os x , jappanese , koreanese , s. chinese.

When i click the Mac OSX install folder , it appear "Choose the application open it"

I have go the start up disk there , it will let u choose the OS9 and OSX 10.2.8, now have OSX 10.3.0 . but when i choose it , and restart back OSX 10.2.8 too... and lag there (seen to be loading the OSX panther CD...)

Somebody teach plz....

Put in the CD, restart ur mac, hold down the "C" key in your keyboard. Wait till the installation start. Proceed accordingly.

Oooo my god .... thanks you !!!!!! why so stupid 1 , cant just boot it and install meh? haiz..... anyway thanks for your help .

you're not using windoze anymore....

I try it already , but it just appear the apple logo (like mouse cursor) and "?" cursor a minit then startup to 10.2.8 lagi ..... pening...

I think my CD ROM got problems or what , if i using the EXTERNA CD-ROM can booting or installing OSX? i mean format it (if format already USB still will working?)

no, for OS installation u need an Apple Certified CD/DVD-ROM drive. Meaning those OEM drive that come with your mac. If your old drive are giving you problem, try borrow your fren's mac and install from there. Just get a Firewire cable, connect both mac. Restart you mac by holding "T" key. You will see your drive mount on your fren's mac. Proceed the installation by choosing you drive as target.

i just suspect my cdrom only , coz when i boot , i t will not boot la , i hold the "C" button , i will blank a minute then appear 1 small Apple logo on folder and "?" on folder like mouse curso , i think it booting , but later , it start up with OSX 10.2 too~!

oh i just saw ur previous post. you should change the "Startup Disk" in the preference to your hard disk. You should not boot to the CD in this way. Another thing you should check is that the CD is working or not. Try to run it on another Mac. The CD should run as soon as you double click "Install Mac OS X" icon. Then it will ask u to Restart.

I think the cd_rom does't have problems , coz everything i install is ok , like Virtual PC , but i not boot when i restart ... i try whole day oredi~

is that an original installer or its a CDR?
its a box retail or its bundle with machine?
have u set the startup disk back to your hard drive?

I have set the start up disk there, the diisk i buy at low yat , thats is CD-R i think, gold site , and printed surface ...... if this CD Cant use , i really bad luck , becos i gonna use 140KM to lowyat ... so far

YOU SHOULD HAVE ADMIT it in your very first post that your cd is el-cheapo prates from lowyat. For PC software, u can go lowyat. For Mac, pls rely on frens or from the net, or get the proper one from Apple reseller.

And I think you can close this topic now.

No la ... first i open this topic , me are at "downloading" from BT . But it stop at 59% due no seed . So i went to Low Yat cos my bro wanna buy a CPU casing then i also buy a 4CD MAC OS X lo .... how i know cant use when i bring back?

I am a newbie to using Mac , so hope ppl can help lo ....

hahaha... say lar earlier "i bought this 4CD Mac OS X from Lowyat... bla bla bla..."
hahaha... then no need to waste so much time already.

well, sounds like u r not from KL. If not you can join me n my buddy when we head out from yum char. then u can get urself some help

well it does prove one thing though, there are apple software in lowyat ...

Ohh , Sound Great ~ I will inform you when i hungry~ BTW if i copy this all 4 CD and burn it with a New CD-R with PC do you think it will run it? This iDea is my fren teach 1 , due the CD buy from low yat is GOLD 1 ....

Just curious , could you post a screenshot on whats inside the CD...from your iBook...Sometimes it could be a .dmg file

I've just bought an ibook g3 500 dual usb version.
http://secretmayarecipe.blogspot.com/2006/...ple-desire.html

well... it took me a week to find the required dvds to install panther and tiger in it. at 1st i'm quite satisfy with panther. But i've heard that tiger can actually runs smoother than panther. thus i took the chance and installed tiger in it.
honestly, it's isn't really that snappy. and yes widgets don't run that smooth compare to current hardware.
but i find that it's quite useful for my "leisure" (messanger, surfing, itunes, microsoft word, blogging) machine when i use it while watching tv or playing video games.
I still got my Ferrari 4000 beside when when i want to do some serious work.
Spot light is quite useful as well because i feel that the search function respond very quickly. I think it even smoke my ferrari 4000 running search in xp.
Anyway, to my surprise. the ibook actually has got a pair of very nice speakers. It's even perform much better than any pc laptops that I've ever used.
I've tried osx86 in my ferrari 4000. and end up with everything working except sound for now. Since i'm very comfortable with mac now. I guess i'm ready for a switch now.
I'll get my mac book pro by next month.

Mmmmm ... look like iBook G3 500 not very slow ya? I feel it also ... it just slow when loading or opening some application, other then that is very smooth and stable . I use it 2 week ago , i never use the "Reset" botton , except that day i using the Low Yat CD for OS X .

I have copy another 1 disc by using the Alcohol 120% , now i just know why thats day i will hang . Some sector at disc might not read properly, and now it will not hang anymore! But i still cant boot it la ... i busy 2 week already

BTW how your install Tiger on iBook G3 ? u upgrade to DVD rom already?

How to "print screen"? i mean like PC , can snap shot the desktop screen

shift + command (apple) + 3 (not from numeric keypad)

saved screenshot should show on your desktop as an icon.....

Thanks , i will post the screen shot later . BTW , any site for download MAC software? I find at google but cant get

VersionTracker (linked)

MacUpdate (linked)

don't expect too much of freewares though....

well...
shift + command + 4 and drag a selection on desktop can make screenshots in portion. instead of the whole screen.
i find this to be very useful for print production or designer.
no wonder alot of designer likes it so much.
I've a friend working in padini. they only got pc for their design dept. so everytime when they want to copy source material from website, they always have problem with print screen. but in mac, they can have option to print whole screen or portion with short cut key. and the file output is instance, no need to launch a 3rd party software at all.

I'm going to buy a new macbook pro to accompany my exisitng pc laptop for most of the work.
plus, there's a possibility to install window xp to dual boot with osx in macbook pro and imac with intel processors now.
check it here.
http://download.onmac.net/

Well... of course, booting osx in pc is also possible. but the hardware is a little choosy. so some of the devices is not working.
for my case, my ferrari 4000 got everything working including air port but the sound isn't working.
I love this os so much and i've decided to buy macbook pro because of this. so don't blame me for trying out osx86. truth is, it does encourage me to do the purchase.
and of course, the cheap ibook 500 is also a good opportunity for me to understand that a 3 years old mac product can still be in such good shape. Kudos to apple computers.

Cheers.
(hope the info helps.)

thanks all for reply, sorry for long time no online..
here my desktop picture.