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Genneva Malaysia V3, Raided on 1st Oct 2012.
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prophetjul
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Dec 12 2012, 09:23 AM
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Sounds Familiar? QUOTE In fact, as I think this through, the short-selling argument Mr. S tries to dispel with mechanical pedantry, in fact, would support the view that the AP/bullion bank is using short-sold shares to further implement the fractional bullion scheme, naked or not naked. If you think about it, the original buyer of GLD shares "thinks" he owns his shares. The short-seller then transfers those shares to a new buyer. So now you two end-buyers who think that they own GLD shares. If there only two shareholders, one with 100,000 shares that was going to be converted to bullion and delivered, and a 2nd owner who bought the borrowed shares with the same intent, if they both converted at the same time, then legally, of course, the original buyer would not be entitled to the shares. His shares have been legally hypothecated. BUT, if this situation were allowed to stand without making both end-buyers of the GLD shares whole on their bullion, it would likely trigger a collapse of the brokerage business because no one in their right mind would ever buy stocks that could be hypothecated and re-sold.
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prophetjul
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Dec 12 2012, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(terry8 @ Dec 12 2012, 09:29 AM) I wonder when Chinese New Year arrives and these GMS people still see no sign of their money, will they be as supportive and defensive of the directors ? think some pure investors are coming to realisation of loss..........only those CONsultants who have vested interest in the income are still supportive. The article i showed is paper gold, the ETF for gold price tracking. It appears that this ETF and maybe Genneva could be employing the same type of methodology....creating a derivative out of gold using a piece of paper
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prophetjul
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Dec 12 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(arubin @ Dec 12 2012, 10:12 AM) Well, Dee Casey seems to be putting a lot of emphasis on the 90-day limit. Supposedly, there's a law which states the police have to charge you within 90 days after they have seized your assets or it has to be returned. Maybe that might be true but I am not sure if it applies to BNM as this is not exactly a clear-cut criminal case. Quite a lot of noise being made about either charging Genneva or unfreezing them. I figure a lot of support will pull out of GMS the moment court charges are laid, leaving only the most hardcore supporters behind who will keep crying about conspiracies and stuff. Maybe there is such a time limit for the authorities to bring charges. i am sure they are framing the charges as we write here. Otherwise the statements made during the last two months will seem like empty drums. i am sure they have already some evidences for their statements. Conspiracy or not, if one breaks the laws of the land, one can get caned and there will be some collateral damage to others for sure.
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prophetjul
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Dec 12 2012, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(terry8 @ Dec 12 2012, 11:03 AM) These CONsultants are very worried they get sued because they orally promised buy back guarantee even though the paperwork did not say so. So they have 2 things to worry about - loss of income and getting sued. Yes...as previously pointed out, these CONsultants have themselves been out-CON by the company in making their own guarantees of Hibaaaa and Buy backs.
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prophetjul
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Dec 12 2012, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(terry8 @ Dec 12 2012, 12:15 PM) In Christianity, our God has warned us that money is the root of all kinds of evil. I pray that they will start reflecting on what the Bible states about money instead of getting deeper and deeper into this scam.
Actually its NOT money whcih is the root of all evil. Its not the commodity its elf but the attitude towards it, ie the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. This means that the person is accountable for their attitudes.actions, not the commodity;so that they cannot blame it on the object when they succumb to the temptation.
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prophetjul
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Dec 22 2012, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Dezs @ Dec 22 2012, 11:06 AM) That's one of the reasons I eventually stopped going to church  what reason is that? And what are the other reasons?
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prophetjul
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Dec 22 2012, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(Dezs @ Dec 22 2012, 12:14 PM) Simply put - is the result of the self affirmation effect in crowds. Compare what happens in a nightclub versus what happens in mass rallies and then what happens in a religious setting. Spending a little time afterwards with readups on crowd behavior opened my eyes for answers that have been staring at me in the face for years. Strange things happen when large groups of people converge and be merry is the best summary I could provide. Where does God come into the equation? No idea for now - but one thing I am for sure, what I'm looking at thus far is no work of the divine. Thats sad......wrong focus i suspect. The focus should be on ONE person alone......we have no problems in our setting Added on December 22, 2012, 3:23 pmQUOTE(Burnnut Luu @ Dec 22 2012, 02:03 PM) https://minus.com/lLlp89JcqNdDpChurch pastor having fun with gen-suckers money Could be anything in the pic...... This post has been edited by prophetjul: Dec 22 2012, 03:23 PM
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prophetjul
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Dec 28 2012, 08:04 AM
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house of cards...............
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prophetjul
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Jan 2 2013, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(arubin @ Jan 2 2013, 11:59 AM) They have also accused banks of being unsustainable for the same bullshit reasons.
In a way they have their arguement. BUT for the fractional banking system, the banks will not be able to operate profitably.
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prophetjul
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Jan 2 2013, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jan 2 2013, 12:34 PM) they can, just that their operations will be smaller, interest rates higher, and that only the safest borrowers will be given money. So them GMVs do have their arguemnet that the banks are also deriving there biz from derivatives.
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