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 Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Swansea 0-0 Liverpool - Bore Draw

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prophetjul
post Oct 30 2012, 08:52 AM

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Interesting stats

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Cristiano Ronaldo has 11 (4 penalties) goals from 61 shots in the league. Suarez has 6 goals from 56. Ronaldo plays with much better players and gets a lot more 1 on 1 vs. the keeper. Yet from open play he has 1 more goal than Suarez (not sure if shot include penalties or not).

In the PL no one seems to mention the fact that Wayne Rooney has 2 goals from 19 shot attempts. Danny Welbeck has 1 from 16. Defoe has 5 from 47. Gylfi Sigurðsson has 0 from 18. Papiss Cisse 1 from 17. Tevez has 4 from 29. Aguero 2 from 17. Mirallas 1 in 29. Fellaini 3 in 32. Hazard 2 in 20. Oscar 0 from 16. Torres 4 in 18. Mata 4 in 21. Cazorla 2 in 35. Giroud 1 in 26. Podolski 2 in 16. Rodallega 1 in 26.

Of the ones with more than 1 goal. Suarez scores a goal every 9.3 shots. Rooney every 9.5 shots. Defoe every 9.4 shots. Aguero 8.5 shots. Fellaini 10.67 shots. Torres unbelievably only needs 4.5. Mata needs 5.25. Podolski 8.

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post Oct 30 2012, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Rhicebowl @ Oct 30 2012, 09:08 AM)
Hmm interesting. But i see that those that tends make long shots would end up looking very bad in this statistic. And the 2 with highest ratio of goals to shot were suarez and torres. These 2 players simmilar in a way that they dont make much long shots. Less tries hence higher goal ratio. And not sure if headers are counted because both liv and chelsea dont uses their flanks that much and rely more to short passes as compared to lets say totenham and united.
But one thing is suarez is nothing compared to ronaldo because ronaldo makes alot of shots. Headers outside the box basically everywhere. So his ratio is out if this world. My opinion la.
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The difference with Ronaldo is he plays with much better players who are goal threats themselves.........
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post Nov 5 2012, 08:21 AM

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Missing link......... Lucas. If Lucas was around, Gerrard would have partnered Luis upfront. As it is, we have two very green players in Sterling and Suso.

So the burden is on Luis to perform and thats limiting the cutting edge upfront IMO
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:48 AM

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ENJOY! biggrin.gif

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post Nov 6 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 6 2012, 10:48 AM)
ENJOY!    biggrin.gif

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AHEM! i thought this was pretty funny....no thank YOUs? sad.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:28 AM)
Thought the game yesterday was a bit scrappy, but I am very happy with the result. Here are a few talking points imo:

1. With the benefit of hindsight, Rodgers got the wrong formation I feel, the 3-5-2 formation was absolutely toothless. Only when Suso came on and he switched to the usual 4-3-3 did we look more dangerous. Kind of opposite with the Everton game, where we started 4-3-3, got outplayed then we switched to 3-5-2 to gain a measure of control of the midfield.

2. Joe Allen seems to be losing form in the last few games he played in, at the start of the season he hardly misplace any passes. Hope he gets back to form soon, and Lucas returns to help him out defensively.

3. Sahin is one player that I'm not sure what he brings to the team. Very quiet in most matches. I was very happy that we got him, but he has only been average so far apart from that game where he scored twice. Maybe it'll take a longer time for him to get back on to the form he had before he joined Real Madrid.

4. As mentioned by other posts, why on earth is Suarez celebrating alone? It is one of the most important goal in such a big game, I'll like to see more passion from the other players. Why celebrate with Carra only? Why not all celebrate together? Dissapointing really....
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Frustrating 1st half..........formation with 3 -5-2 was all wrong..

Joe Allen is NOT a defensive midfilder...in the everton game, BR had to bring in Coates to counter Fellani who was
mugging Allen. Lucas is our best defensive midflder, bar none.

Sahin is not in sync with PL yet....wonder if he will ever fit?
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(SlowCiken @ Nov 12 2012, 11:42 AM)
i tot xabi alonso 5x better than lucas
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Hi chiken.... tongue.gif

Xabi is not same type player as Lucas. Lucas = Mascherano. Xabi = Sahin.
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post Nov 12 2012, 12:17 PM

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Interesting stats before weekend games

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QUOTE(Rhicebowl @ Nov 12 2012, 12:15 PM)
Im not sure how clear both evidence are you mind explaining hows the difference between both the evidence? What makes it a blatant lie?  All i know is jt denied the intention of his racists remark and that he only repeated what ferdinand has said to him, while suarez admitted of saying those words.
Oh and please dont boil up ok. I trying to be nicer here.
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Negrito to a Uruguayan is NOT racist...............

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post Nov 12 2012, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Rhicebowl @ Nov 12 2012, 12:28 PM)
Hmm. Yeah to suarez def maybe its not in uruguay so maybe yes in britain. You know the african american in western countries are more sensitives towards these and too bad suarez wasnt in uruguay when he said it laugh.gif
Besides i belive chocolate isnt a racist remark but if you call evra chocolate he would be fuming laugh.gif
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Wahtever......... BLACKburn is a racist nmae, BLACKpool is a rcaist name.................whatever rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Nov 12 2012, 01:33 PM)
I think everyone here can list out who is our 1st eleven now.
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i cant! That is with ALL FIT to go.....

who would you have in center midfield?

Lucas, Shelvey, Sahin, Gerrard, Allen,
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post Nov 12 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(lovelyass @ Nov 12 2012, 01:46 PM)
whats wrong with liverpool players ? no team work ? they hate suarez or what ?



without suarez  , u guys are nothing.will be like qpr.mayn , y dont appreciate his talents ?
if i were suarez , i rather move to another club
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if i was abrahim i would sell thsoe three you have in your posts and buy Suarez.......... whistling.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(lovelyass @ Nov 12 2012, 01:57 PM)
sell torress buy suarez.after all torress did good when his time with liverpool
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Torees not enough to pay for Suarez. If Falcao is worth 46mil, Suarez would be easily 30mil and Toress maybe 20mil
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post Nov 12 2012, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Nov 12 2012, 02:09 PM)


I haven't seen it being mentioned but in my opinion, it wasn't even a goal. Suarez shoved Ramirez out of the way to win the header. That being said, Suarez is in magnificent form and if anyone deserves a goal, it is him.
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i see that as shoulder to shoulder.........
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post Nov 12 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Nov 12 2012, 02:13 PM)
Meant no one in this thread
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Aiiksksss you are right! He shgoved Ramirez before the ball came in! maybe the tide of referees decisions vs Liverpool
is finally turning? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Nov 12 2012, 02:31 PM)
though i think its a soft push but some ref/linesman might flag it as foul but it's a given the goal is allowed. after all we been victimized before.. its about time we get some decision in favour to us. lol biggrin.gif
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Actually was quite hard and obvious! biggrin.gif


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post Nov 12 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Nov 12 2012, 02:38 PM)
it's makes it sweeter, doesn't it? biggrin.gif
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Does, doesn't it? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Nov 12 2012, 03:01 PM)
i will go with this...
--------lucas----------
--sahin------allen-----
--gerrard--luis--sterling--
subs - suso,jonjo
Lucas will lighten the burden of allen & sahin from defensive works..let them concentrate on forward pass..the front 3 will provide us quickplay,intelligent & creativity thumbup.gif
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My feeling is Sahin plus Allen is too lightweight in the middle of the park. i would put Shelvey with either one
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post Nov 16 2012, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(saikuan @ Nov 15 2012, 11:00 PM)
True..what i mean is if really Suarez is sold in the future, the replacement has to be better.
Sauce? ALL these are speculative.............
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post Nov 16 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(skyz @ Nov 16 2012, 10:15 AM)
No player gonna stay forever... But Suarez edy committed his future at Liverpool for now... He even mentioned the support he gets from rodger and the team is so united, i guess we can put the lone celebration to bed now..

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2012...manchester-city
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Yessumm....and dont believe evrything you read in these sites. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 16 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(pingpang @ Nov 16 2012, 12:04 PM)
I would rate Suarez and Ibra as very good player. If Suarez has support from the other team members, the whole team will be difficult to beat.
What Ibra told RVP and Stevie G to leave their "old" clubs is good advice, IMO. If a good player stays too long in one club, he may lose the "killer instinct". Look at RVP, moving from Gunners to ManU and with his as their main striker, as well as assisting the other players, ManU records of goals scored is tremendous.
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