Haha, you are a funny chap. Then what are going to do, sit by the table for days, weeks, months because you have your own reasoning and I have mine?! Hence am glad that I am seen to be rude to help you have a life if Indeed this happened in real life.

I find it funny that he talks about how people should be civil, yet civil itself is based of rules of live that we follow.

Oh wait, rule is dictationship!

maybe u oughta learn to respect other ppl's decision to not be involved?

Congrats on your promotion

I have done the needful and promoted him to be an Honorary Admin, while demoting all the others to regular members. I only hope that he can grace us with his wisdom of forum administration matters.

yeah but what if others dont share your passion?

But isn't that what you are asking for all the while. So we did give you what you wanted after all

have u ever talk to someone in real life who go on and on about a topic u're not interested in at all and wish he would just STFU? well in this case who is the one being rude here?

a)the sympathetic listener who pretends to be interested.
b)ppl who talk and insist someone listen to his topic even when he rather be somewhere else.

LOL @ superficial admin tag.. Damn, you mods are mean.. I almost feel sorry for ts..

thats like leaving a forum discussion then, no?

and what does them showing up prove?

You're an admin. Just order what you want. If not, then show us how you would get what you want, as an admin?

Based on your first paragraph, you can question a persons reasoning, rationality and morality but who are you to JUDGE them? Same way, what is your reason for starting this thread other than asking for a discussion with the admins, what is your rationale behind those reasons and then I will ask you about moral ethics once you furnish this. Seriously because up until now, there are no concrete reasons other than just assumptions.

For your second paragraph, my reason for saying that it is ideal is because I don't believe in a perfect world. It doesn't mean that people can not dream and have goals or strive to improve or evolve. You assumed so, but frankly, I used to be an idealistic person but slowly I am becoming a realist. As a realist I take the world as it is, I don't force everyone to be a realist or an idealist or just being plain pessimistic. I believe that God created each and every one of us unique but I don't impose my beliefs on everyone by saying that they must furnish me with reasons why they don't believe in this or that, then further question their rationality and then judge them based on my own moral compass. Frankly do you actually idealize to build something to fly or did the wright brothers dream on inventing the aero plane? Personally if you can't even grasp that, it goes a very long way on how your thought process is.

TS, here is a TIPS for you.. Lowyat.net have office..

what a lengthy topic.

to deadlocks. tell you what. even if someone does agree to meet you up, but refuse to have a sensible conversation with you, how would you make of it?

how was your day
friend wanton is too hard. i dont have teeth to chew

i asked what was your day
she sells sea shells on the sea shore
you see, meeting up or not, you cant treat people as if they are machines and will comply to your demands and instructions. what diffrentiates people from machines is that they can make choices that defy logic, defy truth dan defy justice. your thinking is too simple, and too naive.

you should be harrassing Najib, for all your energy, determination for justice. i sincerely hope you do. because your talent and energy is wasted on something unnecessary