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Alphaproject
post Jan 24 2013, 11:46 PM

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for bench press, "chest touching" is a must.....

my puny chest can press 120kg excluding bar weight for 6 reps... (chest touching of cause)

never try 1RM or some other calculation sh!t.... if i felt like a superman today, i slap on the weights....

This post has been edited by Alphaproject: Jan 24 2013, 11:47 PM
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post Jan 25 2013, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 24 2013, 11:52 PM)
I keep stressing this too.
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exactly, ofcuz u can bench a mighty weight with just a half ass reps, but try lowered it to ur chest and then press up... its a whole new experience and you might actually have to lower your weight/ego in half just to do that....
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post Jan 25 2013, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Seasick85 @ Jan 25 2013, 12:52 PM)
Yeah, its not official bench rep i agree, but its still above the so called "half ass rep" which going only 5-6 inches lowering down from lock out..at least i do go 1-2 inches above chest..

Compared to other parts, my chest is the most build part. In fact,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7DGk6_nrR8

Look at this guy, he benches 100kg 12 reps yet look at his chest..

Yes, big chest is equivalent more growth for strength but doesn't always have to be..

Neutral POV..
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the meaning of "half or partial reps" is from touching chest then press up to 3 or 4 inches above your chest.... not the other way round...

even with shoulder injury, my local bodybuilding mate ( competing one ) do the exact what i have just mention....

I've done the exact half ass reps + shoulder flare + locking out ( yes, from the vid you post, we can see that and no offence ) for bench in my early years of weight lifting... and yes i could bench like a king but all i get is weak chest, bad shoulders and small tris....

and boy oh boy, i defended my own theory of a "proper bench" against those veterans, and i realise i was a fool in the end of the day....

it took me months just to correct my benching technique ( after i lowered my ego that is )...

notice tat i didnt quote, post, or link a stranger's half ass naked workout here?



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post Jan 25 2013, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Seasick85 @ Jan 25 2013, 07:41 PM)
So now you always stick to full ROM? Have u tried to include partials in ur current routine or just throw it as far away as possible?

From your current stat of 140kg x 6 reps bench, I guess it requires some strong mental endurance n high spirit to do so?

Btw, how much you weigh? Bodyfat level? smile.gif
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yes i include partial reps, not the one u recommended that is.... it is just to help me get past that sticky situation...

i dont count the bar weight, but if what you referring to is "proper technique", then yes im solid with tat...

me? 180 pounds and about 17% bodyfats...

btw, how long have you been training?....



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post Jan 25 2013, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jan 25 2013, 07:47 PM)
The bottom line is, this being a bench press thread, there should be certain conditions to adhere to for an attempt to be considered proper. The simplest way to go about this is to do what the best (arguably) bench pressers in the world do (powerlifters), and touch your chest.

You mentioned a rotator cuff injury. Have you done anything about it? By cutting your ROM on your bench, you're not fixing your injury, you're avoiding it. Which is fine if you never ever bench full ROM in your life again as long as it doesn't hurt, but you still carry that injury.
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speaking about the injury, if it occur prior to the point he can bench 100kgs, meaning to say alot less poundage and get shoulder injury, he seriously need to correct his technique before treating those injury...




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post Jan 25 2013, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(Seasick85 @ Jan 25 2013, 08:38 PM)
I've been training at least 4 years since 2008.. currently major lifts are squat, bench n deadlift.. with added assistance exercise..

Any tips for benching 140kg? smile.gif

To me, I've had rotator problem somewhere around 2010..it cause my bench to stagnant..until i tried this method from the net which says so 1-2 inches above..and off course as people say, avoiding not curing the problem..however, still feel that it's not wrong duin the partial thing..just that maybe i don't have same power as duin full ROM and yeah i agree to that also..

Honestly said, I can only do around 108kg touch n go one rep max...not including paused..well it's not really that gud ya..

However, currently up till now have not suffer any more rotator problems, the only draw back I'm having is less power with less ROM..that's all i can think about for now..at least.. smile.gif

I'm not really a pro bodybuilder, nor a pro powerlifter though.. smile.gif
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im assuming those 4 years are without proper guidance and "trial and error" method... which is why the injuries occured.....


tips? that vid gave me enuf info to point out 3 things that are not right ( see previous post ) ......

you don't need to be a pro to lift right....





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post Jan 29 2013, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(Seasick85 @ Jan 29 2013, 09:30 AM)
Just to share one of the strong lifts in my gym, he's a personal trainer, doing 160kg bench for 3 reps..

Any comments on the form?


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form are solid, elbow are well below 90 degree... but the locking out part i have to disagree.... if you wanted to rest, pls rest at the bottom, not while on top, beside, you have more energy while the bar at your chest then on top.... trust me, you don't want the bar slamming on your chest or worst, your face if you under estimate your energy level... i have seen alot of beginner with this mistake...

smooth motion is the best motion, unless you're blasting tris, then is ok ( not mostly ) to lock out your elbow...



p/s: DL, im not a guru, but experience enough to be "lethal" tongue.gif




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post Feb 4 2013, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(kubuk @ Feb 4 2013, 07:00 PM)
I benched without a spotter today. Didn't expect to fail that early. 70kgs fell on me on my 3rd set of flat bench. I still don't know how u guys can roll it off so easily. Even though its only 70kgs, I get scratches all the way on my tummy. And it hurts like f***. I actually failed twice without racking it properly. But it's easier to roll off on an incline bench.
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brah, try rolling a 120kgs on your tummy.... those are dangerous move, try a proper benching technique, that include a good spotter...




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post Feb 4 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Seasick85 @ Feb 4 2013, 07:11 PM)
Have u tried 120kg rolling on your tummy?  blink.gif
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no brah, i don't wanna spill my guts all over the gym mirror....

tat been said, some might actually did it.... you never know...


edited: silly me, those are meant to be sarcastic, but in a good way, cuz it is very dangerous, pls lift with your head, not with your ego..




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post Feb 5 2013, 06:57 AM

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pls guys, don't teach the newbies with your macho/ego internet stories.... Spotter are important regardless of how heavy you lift, and ofcus, 'heavy' seems to be relatively different to everybody... 'calculative' benching? How are you suppose to overload your muscles?....

 

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