Eh? I thought Android 4.2 will only roll out when the Nexus 4 gets released, sometime around mid November.
You already got the 4.2 update? O_o


My Nexus 7 is currently stock. Just rooted to install Ad-Away, but no ROMs.
Personally, the only custom ROMs I trust are Bugless Beast and CyanogenMod. I've heard good things about Paranoid Android, but haven't tried that one personally.


I can't confirm, but I think one of the launchers might be able to let you hide the nav bar. Maybe the newly released ADW Ex or Apex or Nova. I know for certain that you can hide the top panel, but I never checked if you could hide the nav bar or not.

This post has been edited by G-17: Oct 30 2012, 11:22 PM

^ In terms of resolution and PPI, it's better than the iPad2 and iPad Mini. In terms of color fidelity and gamut, it's not exactly best in class but still good enough, imho.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 1 2012, 04:06 PM

I never experienced anything of the sort. Then again, I was lucky and didn't experience much of the problems other early adopters had. Can't speak for everyone, but I think most newer batch models are problem free for the most part.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 1 2012, 07:49 PM

I'll wait for the OTA, since my Nexus 7 is stock. But even if the OTA comes soon, I'll probably hold off for a week or two, till I've confirmed all my important apps are compatible.

For my GalNex, I'll probably wait for the next Bugless Beast build.

Well, if you're back on stock and really want to update, you can try the old fashioned method of setting your last recorded update back to 1969.

I think it's like this;

Settings -> Apps -> All
Google Services Framework => Force Stop + Clear Data
Back
Settings -> About Phone/Tablet -> System updates -> Check Now

No guarantee it'll actually find the OTA update so soon, since it just got released today. I don't even think it's officially on OTA channels for the Nexus 7 yet. Only Takju GalNex so far. You might need to repeat the above process a few times, though.

I'd still rather wait a few days first, just to be safe on application compatibility with 4.2

I don't own a Note, but I have a Galaxy Nexus (4.6") and yes, there's a significant difference in browsing comfort.

With regards to 7" vs 10", I don't have an Android 10" to compare it to, but the gf has an iPad2, so here are my comparisons;

Browsing
Depends on the site. Mobile optimized or dynamic sites work equally well on both sizes. Desktop sites obviously benefit from more space on the big tablet, but you lose one-hand comfort. Personally, I prefer xScope (US$2.99) on my Nexus 7 for browsing.

Typing
Both are cumbersome on landscape mode. Nexus 7 wins in portrait and is usable in landscape. 10" tablets make me feel cacat unless I lay them down on my lap or a table.

Books
No contest. Nexus 7. Most novels are around the size of a 7" tablet, so that's the reason. Screen's 217ppi gives good clarity.

Comics (Western)
10" wins here, imho, since it's closer to the size of real life comics. But since most e-comics (the legally purchased ones) are interactive and you can zoom in and ot of each panel, the difference isn't so great.

Magazines
10 inch gives better overall view, obviously. I don't really have that much experience in this category, to be honest.

Manga (Japanese comics)
7" is better for the downloaded rar or cbz formats since the size makes it "feel" more like a manga. for online reading, it depends on the type of site. You might need to scroll down on some sites when using a 7"

Newsfeed apps (Flipboard, Currents, Feedly, etc)
Cannot directly compare Flipboard, since their iPad app is much more polished than the Android one, but it's comfortable enough on the Nexus 7, even though some pages feel like an enlarged phone version. Google Currents is awesome on the 7", plus it has offline viewing (great if your Nexus 7 is wifi only). Feedly was great, but the new update kinda ruined some of the usability for me.

Gaming
This probably depends on the game in question. I personally prefer the Nexus 7. The aspect ratio and size makes it much more comfortable to hold when playing. The iPad just feels too bulky. Shooters like Dead Trigger handle very well on the 7" form factor.

Drawing/Art/Photo editing
No question, bigger is better here, so 10" tablets win. Shouldn't be a concern on Android, since you don't really have that many great image editing apps in the first place (if you're the artsy type, go with Apple). Pixlr-o-matic works great on the Nexus 7, but Sketchbook Pro feels a little cramped at times. Photoshop Touch isn't even compatible on the Nexus 7 yet (stupid Adobe).

Video
Again, bigger the better here, so 10" wins. But Youtube app works well on the Nexus 7.

Weight.
Obviously, 7" wins. Comfortable one-handed reading. Comfortable 2-handed typing in portrait mode.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 14 2012, 01:53 AM

Just got my 4.2 update via OTA. Didn't even have to force it this time.

First impression;

The new digital clock widget is nice, but the analog clock became uglier :-\

I like the new, smaller dock icons.

Lock-screen widgets seem like a nice idea, but the current 3 choices are pretty meh.

The new pull-down notification system is clunky. I preferred the old one, or the "one-finger vs two-finger" they have for phones. No idea why tablets didn't get the same, but I suspect it's some patent problem again. Here's one instance where I'll admit Samseng's TouchPiss is better.

The addition of battery % and airplane-mode in the second pull-down is useful. I don't need the power-toggle bar now. No idea why they put your profile photo in there, though. As if I'm not fed-up with seeing my own face in real life enough. >_>

The font-rendering seems to have changed slightly. The bold fonts especially seem a bit "fuzzy" like there's a bit too much hinting going on.

I like the new dimmed wallpaper view we get in the multitasker/task-switcher. Also, switching between tasks seems a touch smoother.

I like the fade-out effect when you press the standby button.

There seems to be more developer settings to toggle now. Not sure what they do yet.

The new swipe to delete/archive feature in Gmail is nice, though I'm not sure if this is a 4.2 thing or came in a recent Gmail update.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 15 2012, 11:27 PM

Really? Aside from some widgets and the pull-down, it looks exactly the same to me.
I do appreciate the smaller dock icons, though.

@n8210
Do you at least have the Delivery Order/Packing Slip from Google Play? If not maybe you can try bringing the box with you since it's got all the reference numbers on that sticker. Still not exactly proof of purchase though, so I can't say it'll work. I think I read a post here where the member said that you don't need anything, just the device.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 16 2012, 01:13 PM

Possible explanations;
a) The OS took a wrong reading the first time (35%) and a correct reading the second time.
b) Calibration error. Discharge your battery till about 10% and then full-charge. See if you get the same "bug"
c) You have the most awesome battery in the universe!!
d) Your battery just drained your lifespan by 6%. Better quit smoking to regain your lost life.
e) Defective battery or battery monitoring sensor.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 16 2012, 11:05 PM

Holo or GTFO!!
http://www.holoeverywhere.com/
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/8/2933271/a...-organized-list


Waah!! You sure like your newsfeed apps.
Pulse + Flipboard, plus the Nexus 7 already comes with Currents. That's a lot of feeds, my friend. O_O

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 18 2012, 09:19 PM

Anyone else experiencing any of the problems listed here since they updated to 4.2?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/19/an...newest-release/

For me, it's the Bluetooth streaming speed.

Did they give any sort of info as to when they'd officially launch in this region? I don't use Facebook or twitter, so I'm not really following developments. I'm interested, not really because of the Nexus 7 (since I already own one), but mainly for more general general computing stuff. Would be nice if we had a reputable online merchant for SSDs and RAM, especially if their prices are competitive and delivery is quick.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 20 2012, 09:56 AM

As long as your headphone jack is working properly, headphones will be fine for most stuff.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 20 2012, 05:56 PM

I don't get why this question is on the Nexus 7 thread specifically, but as for your answer......
The "people being oblivious" thing, Initially I thought it's only in Malaysia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiosPxt_5kw#t-2m46s
But then I suppose I've seen it here in Singapore as well. It's okay if you say they only have one device to shoot a photo with if they're out in public and something happens suddenly (like a meteor strike), but if you're already at an event/place where you know you'll be taking pics in advance (like a wedding) and still choose to take pics with a tablet, then I say you're a complete idiot. It might be a different matter if tablets came with much better cameras than smartphones, but that's actually the opposite in many cases.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 21 2012, 06:14 PM

I don't disagree with you. My mum is pretty much computer-illiterate.. Heck, I think I'll have better luck teaching a tupai/squirrel how to use Windows XP faster than her.

But I got her an iPad2 last year and she's been very happy using it. She checks e-mail, goes on skype to chat with her old friends, even reads articles on Flipboard. Apple finally made a device she could feel comfortable with.

She also uses it to take pics of kids when they come visit and all.

BUT,

If I saw my mom at a function blocking people with her tablet, I'd still scold her!!

Anyway, back on topic.
Nexus 7. tis good, ya?

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 21 2012, 06:15 PM

^ It's not the greatest screen in the world, but it's not the worst either. Middle-of-the-road for me.

^ Depends on your judgement of what is considered "worth it"

For me, no. I wouldn't pay 1/3 the cost of my tablet just for a case/coating/whatever. It's not like a car, where spending money on a good tint is justifiable, or not like riding a big bike, where spending money on a good helmet and gear can save your life.

All I do is keep it in a cheap sleeve (around RM10) when I take it out. I wipe the screen maybe once a day with those microfiber cloth you get free from spectacle shops. That's all.

No. He asked, "Do you really need liquipel? And RM249 is 1/3 of the price of Nexus 7. Worth it?" and I gave my opinion about it's worth. That is all. I answered the question accurately.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 23 2012, 11:24 AM

Same here. Everytime I switch from my N9 to the old Galaxy Nexus or my current iPhone5, I always end up double-tapping to unlock or swiping up to exit apps. That's what you call a true button-less experience. The Meego team got it so right with the N9, it's a shame Nokia and that idiot Elop killed it off. Hope Jolla brings out some good stuff next year. Really want to see some genuine innovation in this sector.

As for screen capture, hold down the power + volume down button. Not sure about the lock thing though. If you want similar behaviour to the N9, I know someone once said you could, but I can't remember.

This post has been edited by G-17: Nov 27 2012, 07:32 PM