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 Official Club 6th Gen Mitsubishi Mirage 2012/2013, 1.2 3A92 MIVEC. Power to weight ratio !

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post Nov 2 2012, 09:21 PM

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want to ask..the 3A92 engine is belt driven or chain driven?
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post Nov 3 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(muserella @ Nov 3 2012, 07:18 PM)
Test drove it this morning:
Acceleration: don't expect a turbocharged acceleration lah.. but the power is there and enough to move the car with less effort. (Traffic light junction on the hill near Plaza Angsana, with 3 adults)

Space: front area as expected from a compact car but the seating position is quite high (i like it) , rear seats a little bit cramp due to the body design. Myvi is bigger because it got a almost square shape of body at the rear.

Top speed: It's JB.. tak boleh nak laju. Haha..

Accessories: it got few stuff that you can't find in a Myvi, Alto, or i10. I'm not a huge fans of touch screen so an OEM Kenwood Double Din audio is more than enough also it got Smart key, push start button, digital aircond with auto climate.

So how was the drive?
Holistically it's a good (but not a superb) daily city car where you only drive not more than 100kmh. Steering is very light! Seriously very light as I almost hit another car during a 90 degree turn. Maybe I'm too used to a hydraulic steering. Body roll is huge! Rear passengers need to hold on the holder if they don't want to be threw away during a wide corner, but wait there are none of them available! Only one for the front passenger and this is a full spec version. The only things that annoyed me is there is a mild whining noise during heavy acceleration. Tire noise, ok lah..they uses Bridgestone Ecopia as stock tires.

Booked this car (full spec, red color with aerokit) immediately after the test drive, waiting period is 1 month. By the way my wife is the buyer definitely not me..hehe.
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the full specs is actually a touchscreen HU or a 2 din HU?
saw it in youtube it was a touchscreen
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post Nov 3 2012, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 3 2012, 10:41 PM)
no.

malaysia version not touchscreen. it for thailand version i guess.

anyway, i was wondering can it tapau myvi 1.3 if manual? with right timming of rpm..
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i believe can
this is basically kenari with more power, more torque
ppl say kenari lack of power becuz of its 1L engine...70+Nm torque only
this one same weight....100Nm torque
myvi although 1.3L...its a hell lot heavier
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post Nov 3 2012, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 3 2012, 10:57 PM)
ermm ya.. after see the details spec.

the weight is below 1000kg right?

anyway, wanna see later malaysian mod manual 1.2 with this mivec. haha... unfortunately i wont mod it after 2-3 years will be waiting if their rumors about evo , will switch evo version engine and gear box. lol.
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not just under, its alot under
850KG for CVT and 825KG for manual
same weight as kenari
planning to get it but need to test drive it 1st
the other car i was considering is inspira, i know its 2 very different car but i'm actually considering a 2nd car/long term car
the only downside i saw in this car is rear using torsion beam which is gonna be hella bumpy(i'm from sabah) and rear brake isn't disc brake
but considering the price, its still acceptable
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post Nov 3 2012, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 3 2012, 11:05 PM)
if that so, why not just straight to inspira? i think that will be long term solution. i live in KL. i need FC low. tongue.gif
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i'm trying not to get inspira(which i wanted)
becuz if i bought the inspira(which is a great car), the car would mostly left in the parking and the installment every month ain't cheap
i'm still waiting for proton's nov promotion...if inspira get over 4k discount, i might consider back


Added on November 3, 2012, 11:51 pm
QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 3 2012, 11:07 PM)
drove this thing earlier today...

surprisingly this cute lil thing can handle, the steering feedback is alright but u have to live with the body roll once u commit yourself into the corner...

i would say this is an excellent city car as most of the pokey feeling comes within 2k-4k rpm region which is exactly where a city driving will fall into...

when put out on the highway, this car is totally out of place.. and being a 1.2, it has enough in it to haul itself up to 110 km/h but to maintain it is gonna be a strain on this lil buddy...

if u are looking for a pure city car, this is it..
easy to park, surprisingly quite fuel efficent despite me flooring the throttle during my entire 30 mins test drive...
only problem is the rear windscreen is already small as it is, the 3 rear headrest helps to make visibility even poorer....

btw, the CVT gear has a B mode...
i can't guess what is it...
the SA i test drove with told me that B is for Bukit... seriously, no joke...
i almost spit my mentos out...

build quality? its meant to be a budget runaround city car... dont expect wonders... the unit i test drove has inconsistent gap between panels...
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lol tongue.gif ..this car is made in thailand for thailand and japan...SA there tell local B for bukit..haha
found it
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Now, there's something interesting with this Mirage's transmission lever. You'll notice a B (Brake) symbol just after the Drive (D) mode. Mitsubishi tells us that this is for the engine brake mode, in which the engine will be locked in third gear at a significant differential to result in a more responsive acceleration. In going up an incline on a fly over, amidst which the transmission lever was shifted to B, the Mirage performed with confidence. On the decline, our foot were spared from stepping on the brake pedal as the Mirage can do an engine brake by itself


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post Nov 4 2012, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(muserella @ Nov 4 2012, 12:58 AM)
Last time I check in YouTube, a Thailand version of review where they tested it up to 150 (or 160kmh) with 3 XL adults using the full spec Mirage. I don't know if with Malaysian spec we can achieve that speed or not, but don't forget that it's just a  1.2L car made for city drive, so.. (if u get what I meant) tongue.gif

Unfortunately, there is no manual version in Mitsubishi JB for test drive.
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its totally possible
a 1.3L saga(stock) can go 160-180KM/H no problem...with a little mod, its recorded it can go 200KM/H
this mirage can go that kind of speed no problem
the only difference is that saga is way heavier..so at those speed, still quite stable
whereas when mirage went those speed, it might not be as stable
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post Nov 4 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(sun1989 @ Nov 4 2012, 07:19 PM)
this car is meant for city drive. why throttle all the way to 200kmh ?  doh.gif

if wan top speed, go for some other car perhaps.
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all i'm saying is its possible to reach that speed...just that it might not be as stable as saga



Added on November 4, 2012, 9:22 pm
QUOTE(ardhawk @ Nov 4 2012, 07:20 PM)
invecs III cvt.. is it good?
coz what i hear most of cvt gearbox got problematic issue, like honda and proton maybe?
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CVT is basically gearless, the speed increases with the RPM
which mean if u drive high speed, the RPM is quite low compared to 4AT
CVT no problem, i've never heard CVT got any problems
the honda case is becuz honda mechanic poured ATF into a CVT gearbox(which should have been CVT oil, not ATF)
proton's CVT also so far no problem
plus proton's CVT(punch brand) have been inside alot of chinese and european car...such as mini

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post Nov 4 2012, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 4 2012, 09:46 PM)
I would be extremely surprised if this tiny car came with multilink and disk brakes tongue.gif
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it would be best if have
but i think the evo version will have
even the australian review also said it would be best if it comes with rear disc brake

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post Nov 5 2012, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(sun1989 @ Nov 5 2012, 01:08 AM)
yup. as the weight also is quite light. under 1k kg.
soon to go for test drive. hopefully available.
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am going to test drive soon as well if all goes well
i wonder hows the EPS compared to myvi's EPS which have a slight delay
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post Nov 5 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 5 2012, 12:29 PM)
latest i got quoted from my friend work in Alrajhi bank around monthly rm623 . less rm10 from Public bank and rm 15 from Hong Leong bank. i guess will get from Al Rajhi bank smile.gif
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9 years loan?


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QUOTE(valence @ Nov 5 2012, 01:14 PM)
where u from? i m thinking to go test drive too  tongue.gif
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from sabah

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post Nov 5 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 5 2012, 02:22 PM)
How's the slight delay? I remember driving a Myvi once and while making a slow U-turn the EPS was stuck in "heavy" mode  rclxub.gif
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not sure, i've never driven a car with EPS be4
they all say its not as responsive and have a slight delay
but got ppl also said mirage's EPS is super light
go test drive only know
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post Nov 5 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 5 2012, 04:35 PM)
yes.

for the highest variant.

latest got from maybank rm633. this year so low interest rate. alrajhi bank already in KK. ( coz last time my project to open that branch lol)
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never heard of this bank be4
but i think those low interest only falls on those not so popular bank
if a pay a little extra for conveniences of branch, why not..for me
plus, kk really hard to get parking

plus, i will never take ANY car for 9 years loan...its crazy..the car can last 9 years or not is still an issue
i'm planning to take 5 or 6 years
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post Nov 7 2012, 11:52 PM

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just test drove it, like previous member say..yes, the steering really really light...no delay as i experienced
and its a pretty good car, the power is there with 4 ppl in the car, a/c is very cold...with that kind of FC, definitely a good buy
downside is the body roll, pretty obvious
the car provides a pretty smooth ride despite using torsion beam
planning to buy 1 if everything goes smooth....but 1 thing is unsure, is the leather seat option worthed?..cuz they never mention what kind of leather used

i haven't fully explored the car though...lots of other switches that i dn't know what its for, the SA also not sure what it was
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post Nov 8 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 7 2012, 11:54 PM)
so hows the top speed?

tomorrow launch party lol.. i feel like im the promoter hahaa

body roll.. how about low the suspension?
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top speed again, haizzz...didn't manage to test it
the branch that i went just now located in the middle of a busy street thn the time i test drive is soon, jam like shit
i only manage to push it until 80-85KM/H on a short stretch, rev-ed it to 3.5K RPM to reach that speed thn brake again
but still...at 80-85KM/H, its pretty stable and insulation in firewall done pretty good, didn't hear any loud engine noises at all
tomorrow?...if not wrong, mine here like wong638 said is next week monday
ya, when turn the roundabout, i feel the bodyroll that other ppl said, low the suspension..dn't know oh...maybe can be fixed by strut bar or anti-roll bar

if everything smooth, i might go and book this saturday and test drive again..and try those unknown switches
i saw thailand one said have that side mirror folding function, and theres that meter cluster brightness adjuster(i think)
and just now i didn't feel the door have locked, so not sure have that auto lock/brake lock or not

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post Nov 8 2012, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 8 2012, 12:52 AM)
sorry mistake.. its monday 19th nov

what makes u want to book? mean in term of point of your view.for u or ur wify?i feel the desing is not timeless. its not futuristic . but bear in mind, design might ugly for some people, but with some pimp, good FC . its really KL car. lol
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19 nov..late 1 week of sabah?
what makes me wanna book?...the FC is incredible...literally hybrid level while using full engine
no me or wify, buying it as 2nd car...anyone use also can
design, ok la..not bad...not ugly at all, important is aerodynamic
outside ugly is ok, you're not gonna be standing outside, most importantly is interior is nice
if like almera...outside looks ok but interior looks ugly and have to face everyday...better die
other factors like its a mitsu, using mitsu engine, using CVT(reliability)
too bad, ours doesn't have that AS&G start stop system which thailand and japan's have...that can literally boost the FC to 27.2KM/L(hybrid can run far away)
the boot, not bad, bigger than myvi and way deeper, theres a spare tyre below the boot somemore
u can find alot of feature that other car doesn't even have

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 8 2012, 01:17 AM)
you are good in car knowledge. actually this is my first car . and people keep asking me why not just pick myvi.  its more on my ego and im doing a bit research to this car compare to the same class. the price for me is affordable with the features given. i just googled the as&G features . it will turn the price slightly goes up. the design for me is good. diff people will have their own opinion.

yes. i receive the email saying its 19th nov which i dont sure to go. dont forget to ask your SA to give u mini keychain of mirage. its cute.
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mini keychain?....when give actually?
what offer did u get from your SA?

this car's FC...myvi can tapao..lol
just now the branch i went, they have a book type brochure..inside have alot of thing
1 of which is the FC
my only 14-15KM/L...no.2...thn top is mirage which is 21KM/L...imagine if the car came with start stop system...fuuuhhhh.....its like 10KM/L more than myvi
i think choose this compare to myvi isn't just FC, its also becuz of the ride comfort, ppl say rear passenger very uncomfortable and ride is floaty after 90KM/H
and u know what i saw in that book brochure, someone use pen and write top speed there
CVT = 175KM/H
MT = 180/185KM/H
and another abt myvi is, they're all over the street...why not buy something different tongue.gif
and i know myvi is cheap...49k in my place for 1.3L EZI
and power also higher abit

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post Nov 8 2012, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 8 2012, 01:29 AM)
yeah baby.. u makes me cant sleep and tomorrow will top meeting with the board director. i blame u !!! hahaa

r u sure it can be reach with CVT ? maybe need good timing.. perhaps it does.

yes.. i hve ego. i dont want to same like my friend with all myvis.. hehe.. just my 2 cents.
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am not sure how they reach that kind of FC though
maybe combination of 3 cylinder engine + mivec + CVT + light weight and aerodynamic body
add it all up thn can reach
oh ya, another myvi advantage is their engine is 4 cylinder which mirage is 3 cylinder..something like kenari/kelisa
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QUOTE(selinix @ Nov 8 2012, 01:37 AM)
A friend of mine just recently manage to get 5k discount for the 2.0P..
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2.0P?...are u sure
or is it 2.0E?
2.0E is the only car that have 4k discount from proton
if u say 5k thn 1k extra discount from SA
2.0P only 1k discount
oct's promo/discount continue until dec...no more new promo
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QUOTE(selinix @ Nov 8 2012, 01:49 AM)
yes i am very sure..  smile.gif  is 2.0P
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http://protonpsb.blogspot.com/2012/10/1mal...campaign_2.html
see that, 2k only...how can your friend milk extra 3k from the SA
my SA...other than the 4k discount from proton...added RM200 from himself only
i think west malaysia is west malaysia...better deal
i've even heard someone got 7k discount for 2.0E
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QUOTE(elmodistortion @ Nov 8 2012, 01:17 AM)
yes. i receive the email saying its 19th nov which i dont sure to go. dont forget to ask your SA to give u mini keychain of mirage. its cute.
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mini keychain?....when give actually?
what offer did u get from your SA?

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