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M3White
post Jun 10 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(ksin23 @ Jun 10 2013, 08:31 PM)
It's Jun already bro ...
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June about to end...mean 2013 gone 50%
Don't talk about yesterday (it was history 2012)
Always look ahead..

Mazda 3, out dated technology & out dated design (2009)
Current design high FC & clearance (not many color left)
Expected July 2013 new Mazda 3 Kudo Design ll be available in Msia

Google & Type
Mazda 3 Kudo
Trw technology but today' living

All New Vios or Honda, Thailand ahead us
but Mazda CX5, M6 & M3, we are fresh compared to other countries....
worth to wait RM120K or lesser aft NAP reducing tax (equivalent with current M3 discount RM109K)
Skyactiv is about RM0.12/KM for Mazda 6 (2.0)
If the same engine in small body, it ll be lower, say RM0.10/km
Petrol price always up, never down
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post Jun 10 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(sense75 @ Jun 10 2013, 01:55 PM)
I got a quate more than 7k if you interest just pm me.. I will share the contact to you..
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These link can help
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2551857/+780

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=mazda+3+...52F%3B700%3B467

https://www.google.com.my/search?biw=1280&b...fDI-3rAfErIH4Cg
M3White
post Jun 13 2013, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(hailomar @ Jun 11 2013, 10:27 AM)
Thank u sirs for the heads up. But mazda 3 kodo sure can meet 2013 ah? I heard the show car debut is even in Sep 2013 auto show (Paris or somewhere). Now having second guesses already nanti menyesal if the new mazda 3 arrive soon. How lah... rclxub.gif

EDIT: just got off the phone with bermaz glenmarie rep, he says confirm not this year for the mazda 3 kodo. Next year will launch around 140-150 the price range. Sorry didn't ask for more info as I asked the rough estimates only.
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Basically, Bermaz stop production for M3 (2.0), clearance (left ice blue color). M3 (1.6) still on.
This is bcoz M3 skyactiv (only 2.0).
Imagine if S.A telling u the fact like... "we r stop producing 2.0 due to skyactiv ll be launched soon"!
Significant : No 1 ll buy unless they extra discount RM25K!

All in ur hand bro.
The info is M3 (2.0 skyactiv) ll be launched very soon.
Buy now (u ll get 2009 technology) & last few months expired
Wait a few months, latest technology (at least 4 years in freshness)
Mazda is transform to all Kudo design.

Current Scenario for 2.0cc
CX5 RM130K
M6 RM155K
Price ll be reduced very soon 20%-30% as government promised

M3 (2.0) skyactive
Just wait for next 6 mths
Get fresh skyactiv engine RM0.12/km or current RM0.18/km (petrol price never down)
Fresh sporty design (satisfaction)
If M3 skyactiv 2.0 is RM130K-RM140K, ppl ll go for M6 (2.0)
Remember Altis ll launched new model very soon
Google - Altis 2013 Shanghai

This is my personal opinion to share (I'm waiting to own M3 skyactiv too)

M3White
post Jun 16 2013, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Jun 16 2013, 04:26 AM)
This sep m3 kodo will be reviewed in frankfurt autoshow.problem is will it really hit here by 2013?
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Now M3 (2.0) is clearing stocks, no manufacturing.
M3 (1.6) ll remain production as low end segment.
Those purchased M3 (2.0) ll look current (alike 1.6cc) when skyactive G (2.0) launched.

Bermaz always ahead our neighbours countries for their new model.
Example, CX5 & M6, we launched faster then Thailand, Indo & Philipine (proven).
Honda Civic Gen 8 & Gen 9, CRV & CRZ we are lacking behind Thailand for nearly a year to launch.
Toyota All New Vios is available in Thailand, Indo & Philipine but we only able to visit the website.
Same thing happened to Altis & Camry previously.

The lesson is, M3 (2.0) skyactive ll be as fast as launching in Japan (proven for CX5 & M6).
Bermaz is doing biz, surely they ll bring in M3 (2.0) skyactiv once production in Japan (CBU), then CKD.

Spending huge budget for expensive machines (+ high taxes), worth to wait.

By leaking this reasonable theory, might give negative impact to Bermaz.
Hope we can get M3 Skyactiv G (2.0cc) before 2014.
M3White
post Jul 5 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(xander @ Jul 5 2013, 09:53 PM)
words from SA can't be trust at the moment becuz they will tried everything to push out the current stock

a good example will be telling u when only the car will come. so instead of waiting for the coming gen u will just settle for the current gen

be strong ppl!! be strong
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The current 2.0 M3 is stop production that is Y not many color available now but 1.6cc still on.
Meaning to say, Bermaz is ready to bring in CBU Japan as soon as it launch. Unlike Toyota & Honda, we are always behind other Asean contries, like Thailand.

Once all new M3 launched & if Bermaz still carry stocks, they have to clear very cheap bcoz no 1 interested in old model, old tecnology & Mazda no resell value, only man for niche market.

I personally feel in all hatch batch categories, M3 lead number 1
But M3 salon is much, much better, seeing is to believing
worth to wait...

http://paultan.org/2013/07/04/new-mazda3-s...-its-sexy-back/

Don't buy Cerato (KIA K3), beocz u ll regret due to resell value, high spare parts cost & quality is not up to the standard but the price too expensive (2.0) RM118.5k, all new M3, even though no resell but great handling & performance car like VW
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(xander @ Jul 8 2013, 02:52 PM)
m going to buy almeria if m3 is 144k
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Almera is suitable for those 40++ I guess!
Better wait for All New Vios (launch Oct 2013), open for booking too

RM144K, blood sucker
Government should allowed free tax bcoz skyactiv is a Green engine, same category with Hybrid (also free tax)
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post Jul 12 2013, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(changeplate @ Jul 12 2013, 03:04 PM)
Hey just wanna know what type of deal would be good now for a mazda 3 1.6 hatchback, I dont mind getting 2012 batch. E.g cash rebate of how much, free tinting, free reverse camera, free leather seats etc. Anyone know or have bought one lately with good offer?
I've actually booked one demo car from mazda hq mazda 3 1.6 hatchback 2012 with 10k km mileage for RM88k, 3 yrs free warranty and service. Wonder what you think about that as well? They said it was just an office car, they used to run errands with every nw and then.

Replies are much appreciated! Trying to buy tmr, thanks!!
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Bro,
2012 is 2009 1st batch model
Current 2013 is new FL model
Coming soon skyactiv (powerful engine, save petrol & sporty design).

1.6 totally under power, 2.0 better but current engine is high FC.



This post has been edited by M3White: Jul 12 2013, 06:26 PM
M3White
post Jul 13 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(changeplate @ Jul 12 2013, 08:48 PM)
But with such good offers for the brand new car, makes it less attractive. Do you know what would be considered a good offer for a brand new unit? Keen on keeping my old number plate
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2012 (Demo car) vs 2013 (brand new, clearance)
Example 2.0 (1.6cc under power)

0km VS 10,000km
Cash RM7k + free insurance worth RM3,500 = RM10,500 VS RM23,000.00 (Total diff is RM13K)

Safe RM13K but U sacrify items below
Interest Rate 2.3% VS 3.3% (x9 years) Dif 1%x9 = 9% (If Loan RM80Kx9%= Save RM7,200)
5 years warranty VS 3 Years warranty (Peace of Mind) * Effect Resell Value
2009 old model VS 2013 new FL model (New & freshness) * Effect Resell Value
Leather Seats VS Used Fabric (worth RM2K)
DVD Player VS Tradional CD (worth RM2K)
Paint Coating VS Naked (worth RM2K)
New Interior VS Old Interial drool.gif

RM7.2K + RM2K + RM2K + RM2K = RM13.2K

The simple question
Do u see the Demo Car is actually same price with the brand new?
Resell Value (3 years later) made difference also

Unless RM88K-RM18K = RM70K


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post Jul 13 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(changeplate @ Jul 13 2013, 02:59 PM)
Thanks for the replies. Appareciate your views.
I just got an offer for m3 1.6 HB 2012 made, for RM98k, plus leather seats, 3M tinting and hopefully reverse camera. Seemsgood to me. What are your thoughts?
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My thought still unchange
1.6 really under power, All new Vios better (Oct 2013) Bcoz body lighter, perform better, fresh design if compare toM3 (1.6cc), Unless U go for 2.0 (at least full spec).
Price Not much diffrence bcoz huge discount no regret.

M3White
post Jul 13 2013, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(changeplate @ Jul 13 2013, 03:36 PM)
I would love to upgrade to a 2.0, but not enough cash for that.  I really like the m3, and power isnt my biggest concern. More concerned about reliability, styling, only worry about power when I can afford to spend abit more later on haha. How much would a 2.0 cost now tho? 115k? Unfortunately cannot afford :/
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Mazda 3 (2.0) RM120,600.00
Discount RM 10,600.00 (Cash RM7K + Free Insurance RM3.5K)
Discount Price RM110,000.00
Insurance with NCD 55% RM 1,500.00
OTR RM115,500.00
Down Payment RM 5,500.00
Loan RM110,000.00 x2.30%x9=20.7%
+20.7% Interest 9 years RM 22,770.00
Total RM132,770.00 / 108 mths
Montly RM 1,229.35

If u are Not in hurry, I strongly believe Bermaz ll give more discount bcoz
i) Aft July (half year 2013 gone)
ii) End 2013 Over trade discount
iii) Clearance Stocks (huge discount) for balance 50 units before new M3 skyactiv launch



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post Jul 19 2013, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(sw1314 @ Jul 19 2013, 12:56 PM)
i hope that 1.5 has 6 airbag and paddel shift then i will consider about it xD 2.0 too exp for me
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Actually air bags not so helpful when major accident but seats bealt.
Air bags ll inflate & a few second later deflate, whereby your head ll spin so many times.
By theory air bags seem like so great but actually not.
Check it out!!!!
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post Jul 21 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(sw1314 @ Jul 19 2013, 11:58 PM)
haha.. correct too..
but i want paddle shift
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for sure paddle shift is very, very & very useful
Y I say so?
example... when u see Civic 2.0 at your front
Just click your paddle shft -
aft that, those Civic ll be gone immediately from your back view mirror...

This post has been edited by M3White: Jul 22 2013, 11:23 PM
M3White
post Jul 21 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Jul 21 2013, 02:32 AM)
U mean civic 2.0 not civic fd2 type r i guess?  brows.gif
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Fair games bro,
FD2 (2.0) vs M3 (2.0)
and.....
FD2 (type R & RR) vs (MPS)
same track, same time, same scenario, same back view mirror.....
1 click, whatever civic ll be disapear from Mazda back view mirror......
hahahaha......
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post Jul 23 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Jul 23 2013, 12:10 AM)
Kudo face plus skyactiv engine or current FL face with skyactiv engine will be launching for the next M3 model?
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Bro,
In US & Australia, current FL using skyactiv engine, but in Malaysia, Bermaz still left many old engines, so they package in current FL body (2013).
If Autralian saw our M3 current FL, they must thought skyactiv engine inside.

All new M3 ll be available as fast as 4th Q2013(CBU), it's skyactiv technolgy in total (light body but stable handling, low FC but powerful).
M3 KODO----- SAD face (view from the tail light) but Driver face always HAPPY.

Bermaz might continue to produce current tradisional 1.6 engine in current FL model.
Meaning to say, in 2014 current FL (smilling frog face) package in 1.6cc.
All new KODO with skyactiv technolgy only in 2.0cc (Plan A)

Suddently, Mazda Japan invented 1.5cc skyactiv engine for low-end market.
So, what happened to Plan A?
What ll be Plan B for Bermaz then?
I really no idea arrr.....,
Wanna know?
Verify directly with Vincent Tan..... hahaha

This post has been edited by M3White: Jul 23 2013, 09:04 PM
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post Aug 4 2013, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(vioxmonsta @ Aug 3 2013, 03:32 PM)
New m3 road show on this year Nov.heard only 2.0 model will be bringing in only.
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All New Skyactiv M3, only 2.0cc CBU ll reached Msia market soon.
Current smilling Face ll still continue but 1.6cc
Meaning to say, those who purchase current 2.0cc ll look fresh 1.6cc when 2.0 skyactiv launched
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post Aug 4 2013, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(guilt79 @ Aug 4 2013, 03:58 PM)
What is the difference between cbu and Ckd?

I know cbu is fully imported. Other than that?
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CBU (Complete Build Up)
It is imported
Normally the 1st batch production ll be produced in the origin country, such as:
1) Mazda CX5, Mazda 6 (Japan)
2) Mazda 3 (2009-2010 Japan) & (2011-2013 CKD Malaysia)
3) VW Passat & Passat CC (German)
4) Peugeot 408 & 508 (France)
5) KIA K3 (Korea)
6) Hynday (Korea)
7) Lotus (London CBU)

Aft sometimes, the company ll switch to lower production cost.
Some of the government like Thailand implementing good policy to attaract FDI (Foreign Direct Investment), Thailand, nowadays turn Bangkok as Hub of Autombile Industry, taken over our place & assemble such models to export to the neighbor countries including Msia:
1) Toyota Altis (till now)
2) Honda City (till now)
3) Toyota Camry (2006-2011)
4) Toyota current SUV (Indo)
Other models like Vios, Camry, Civic, CRV & many more also produced in Thailand, that is Y they are faster then us (example All New Vios they launched quite long times but we ll have it on Oct 2013)


Basically, CBU vs CKD are:
1) Build up quality (Japan's operators VS Malaysia's operators)
2) QC level (rejection), matter of closed 1 eyes & closed 2 eyes
3) Tax Structure (Export Tax, Excise Tax & Sale Tax)
i) If made in Japan, Korea, German, France & other (high tax, bcoz they are threat to us)
ii) If AFTA countries (Asean Free Trade Area), 11 neighbor countries involved such Thailand, lower tax due to AFTA.

CKD (Complete Knock Down)
Government imposse excise tax & sale tax where the price ll be slightly lower, example
1) Mazda3 (2.0) CBU (2009-2010) RM135K VS CKD (2011-2013) RM120K (Diff in price & quality)
2) Peugeot 408 & 508, price drop as well as Build up quality
3) Passat now CKD RM174K (previously CBU German RM185K)
4) CX5 (2012 CBU Japan vc 2013 CKD Msia) Price vs Quality
5) KIA CBU Korea & CKD Msia (Build up quality, more or less the same = Gangnam style)
5) Camry 2012 (CBU Thai) & Camry 2013 (CKD Msia),
quality & tax abt the same, AFTA apply, 11 countries signed lower tax.
6) Honda Civic, Accord CKD (Melaka Plant)
7) Mazda 3 & CX5 (Kedah Plant)
8) Vios & Camry (Shah Alam Plant)
9) Avanza (Rawang Perodua Plant, bcoz Perodua major share own by Toyota Daihatsu)
10) Proton (Totally Msia)

Y CKD Price still high?
bcoz high sale tax & also excise tax (compare Labuan & Langkawi free duty price)
Y Langkawi Lancer is lower price compared to Inspira?
Mass production, economic skill = Lancer enjoy lower price but inspira (small production & high cost)
Main land, tax makes the price difference to support Proton.

Hope this explainantion can give u better picture of CKD & CBU

This post has been edited by M3White: Aug 4 2013, 09:15 PM
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post Aug 5 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Vinceyang @ Aug 5 2013, 01:04 PM)
Estimated how much is the new M3 when launch?
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I predict below RM130K CBU, bcoz another segment M6 (2.0) is RM155K.
Aft that CKD ll enter the market with RM120K to compete with All New Altis & Civic.
Even though Skyactiv so advance but T & H are the strong brands in Msia
So that Bermaz ll not mark up high price to compete
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post Aug 6 2013, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(jackmh @ Aug 5 2013, 11:36 PM)
Urgently need advise here, my gf going to changed her car. The 2 choices is mazda 3 1.6 ckd and honda city E, which has 9k discount now. Price diff will be 81k vs 98k, 17k difference. The honda disc only valid until next week as been told, so have to decide it now. We both like mazda 3, but the only thing i worried is the long term maintenance for mazda 3. Plan to use this car for long term though, 10 to 15 years. What if later the car breakdown after 10 years but spare part cant find in the market anymore? Or will the spare part cost sky high? How reliable is the mazda engine, can it last that long(since the engine is not skyactiv and launch since 2008)?
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M2 (1.6) under power & model since 2009
City, old & ugly, all new model is coming too

Just wait for All New Vios (Oct 2013)
Y?
Lasting model
i) Oct 2007-Ot 2013 (6 years, cycle for new model)
ii) 2003 model still good in demand, good resell value, low fuel consumption & low maintanance
iii) All New Vios cheap, start from RM70K
iv) Toyota reliable & powerful bcoz light body
v) All New Model very beauty, fresh model vs M3 (1.6) or City
vi) M3 (1.6) under power

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post Aug 6 2013, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Royalwind @ Aug 5 2013, 11:04 PM)
Then how about the price for mazda 3 1.5?
Mind to share?
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1.5 is not enter Msia market bcoz ll compete with 2.0 as same design
1.6 M3 ll still be in the production to make difference between 1.6 & 2.0
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post Aug 6 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(jackmh @ Aug 6 2013, 08:48 AM)
Show my gf the new vios look, just that she dont like it. This is the only 2 choices she can accept. For the 1.6 mazda, i think i dont speed that much. Normally i dont speed over 130km/h. For city driving i think is fine. Just worried the future(10 to 15 years) maintenance cost of the mazda compare to honda.
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Mazda 3 cycle (oct 2009- oct 2013) 4 years
All new ll come & it ll be muzium

How u can show ur gf all new vios?
Pictures can lies but eyes ll not lies
Bring ur gf to Thailand, Indo or Philipine (see in naked eyes)
surely crazy

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