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post Feb 23 2006, 01:57 PM, updated 20y ago

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Stupid damn buyer ffk on my amplifier

he said want to buy then this than that

very fussy then decided to confirm at rm180

now he say he dont want

just beware

Senior member doesnt mean they are good people..

imperialrealcs - i dont need your apology as i am damn angry with you

wasting my time and money

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=248311
imperialrealcs
post Feb 23 2006, 02:04 PM

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ok, i've been waiting for this thread to come out smile.gif
1st of all, my friend who wanted to buy his amp urgently..
then he confirm after seeing the picture he provided and ask if can deal at rm180.. but this fella late reply and my friend saw another post also selling amp and brought from him.. who is the buyer i will only tell mod if being asked smile.gif i dont want u to clash with him..
soo i do admit is my fault.. so peace guy smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2006, 03:09 PM

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Heh..no transaction has been done, so this is not a con case. Buyer has the right to cancel trade anytime he/she wish too.
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post Feb 23 2006, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 23 2006, 03:09 PM)
Heh..no transaction has been done, so this is not a con case. Buyer has the right to cancel trade anytime he/she wish too.
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I can agree with that, saw you post here a lot, tot you knows better, but alas doh.gif ;

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The Trade Zone Minor Offenders List holds the names (including information) of parties involved in lighter trade offences like 'not following through a deal after a promise has been made by both sides (also known as FFK)', joybidding, false advertising of a product, dishonest in giving information, and etc.


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Dont encourage ppl to FFK! Written or verbal agreement is still an agreement, somehow it was still bind to law. Guess can ask badawi_rock to clarify it.
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post Feb 23 2006, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 23 2006, 03:09 PM)
Heh..no transaction has been done, so this is not a con case. Buyer has the right to cancel trade anytime he/she wish too.
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izzit like tat?? then can joy bidder laa.. not to sokong any1

but atleast need to inform leh.. peace
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post Feb 23 2006, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 23 2006, 05:17 PM)
izzit like tat?? then can joy bidder laa.. not to sokong any1

but atleast need to inform leh.. peace
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of course you must inform first ... this also both party fault.. tongue.gif
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post Feb 23 2006, 09:00 PM

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Your statement contradicts wor.....
Sekejap no fault sekejap got fault...


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post Feb 23 2006, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 23 2006, 08:53 PM)
of course you must inform first ... this also both party fault.. tongue.gif
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like this u better dun post anything
misleading other member
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post Feb 23 2006, 09:09 PM

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well at least he admit his fault...
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post Feb 23 2006, 09:39 PM


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i kena oso last time by him, but thts a network card RM10 so dun mind ler lol
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post Feb 23 2006, 11:31 PM

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Dealt with imperialrealcs a few times and he's considered a good seller and a good buyer as well, very punctual.

This case considered ok already, my sale last time include proc + mobo + ram and I decide to let go when all item have buyer. But end up, the forumer who reserved the ram disappear, so I'm having a hard time trying to sell the ram right now biggrin.gif FFK case is common liao...
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post Feb 23 2006, 11:34 PM

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hahah... this sub-forums looks like gonna be a place to lick own's wound and tell the whole world about it.

i'd really suggest the mods to alter the rules so that only serious matters involving money transfers to be brought up in this forum to keep it clean
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post Feb 23 2006, 11:40 PM

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wah...if like tis oso consider ffk...then i mor everyday tak senang...
my hdd, ram, pc, proc, bla bla bla...all buyer say reserve lah, tat lah...at the end...tak tau mana pergi.... sad.gif

laugh.gif ...bro... peace tongue.gif
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post Feb 24 2006, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 23 2006, 05:17 PM)
izzit like tat?? then can joy bidder laa.. not to sokong any1

but atleast need to inform leh.. peace
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 23 2006, 08:53 PM)
of course you must inform first ... this also both party fault.. tongue.gif
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brother.. he say coming to kl on friday via rm0.00 airasia.. and i tell him today cancel not soon enough? if tomorow only i say cancel thats the worst thing liau

QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Feb 23 2006, 09:39 PM)
i kena oso last time by him, but thts a network card RM10 so dun mind ler lol
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not kena.. i forget y last time didnt go through with u.. whats the reason edi ar? tongue.gif
coz when i buy something i expecting buyer to reply fast.. if slow n i found better offer.. why not?
he is selling rm180 for 2channel 800w amp
i found 4channel 2600w (i noe is fake) amp..
but what i want here is the channel smile.gif
soo no offence dude.. if only u could reply me fast.. well i noe some people might have problem signing in to internet due to certain condition but i need fast smile.gif
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post Feb 24 2006, 12:18 PM

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FFKers can be put into "Minor Offender" list.
More so if it's a frequent FFKers...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=243708
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post Feb 24 2006, 04:59 PM

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hmmm...a lot of people creating new accounts to FFK other people items....i notice b4 same person (dumb feller using 1 hp no.) trying to buy reserve my items in different sales with diff acc.s, don wanna mention who though since i always first come first serve.....no reserve
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post Feb 24 2006, 09:21 PM

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Is ain't the RIGHT reason telling the seller that you plan to buy this stuff for your FRIEND.

If so,I can put every BIG & SMALL problems to my SUPPLIERS,FRIENDS or RELATIVES.Then,I be the one to be FREE while my SUPPLIERS,FRIENDS or RELATIVES are in whatever deep trouble which got nothing to do with me.

Responsibilities = NONE ?

FFK is FFK la.Where can say because is not con then nevermind la.

Wrong is wrong la.So simple to understand.

A good and punctual trader I know.So what?Can be a taiko mer?

I'm not siding anyone because most of us experienced this thing before.

dandan : Live with it.You may accept his apologies or put him into MINOR OFFENCEas suggested.That's the most the mod can do.Since he already apologised,I guess is OK.Just my 2 cents

imperialrealcs : Even though is true you're acting behalf of your friends,please do note that there is nothing as "playing sands" when it comes to business.You break your promise means break.Fault will be both of you and your friends.Don't just push all the faults to your friends.
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post Feb 24 2006, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Feb 23 2006, 02:04 PM)
ok, i've been waiting for this thread to come out smile.gif
1st of all, my friend who wanted to buy his amp urgently..
then he confirm after seeing the picture he provided and ask if can deal at rm180.. but this fella late reply and my friend saw another post also selling amp and brought from him.. who is the buyer i will only tell mod if being asked smile.gif i dont want u to clash with him..
soo i do admit is my fault.. so peace guy smile.gif
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i was just wondering why is it your friend dont want to bid from dandan himself and ask you to bid for him but in the end he ffk dandan and buy from another forumer? blink.gif

And why is it his identity is so secretive that u can only mention it to the mods ohmy.gif
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post Feb 25 2006, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(larkowen @ Feb 24 2006, 09:21 PM)
Is ain't the RIGHT reason telling the seller that you plan to buy this stuff for your FRIEND.

If so,I can put every BIG & SMALL problems to my SUPPLIERS,FRIENDS or RELATIVES.Then,I be the one to be FREE while my SUPPLIERS,FRIENDS or RELATIVES are in whatever deep trouble which got nothing to do with me.

Responsibilities = NONE ?

FFK is FFK la.Where can say because is not con then nevermind la.

Wrong is wrong la.So simple to understand.

A good and punctual trader I know.So what?Can be a taiko mer?

I'm not siding anyone because most of us experienced this thing before.

dandan : Live with it.You may accept his apologies or put him into MINOR OFFENCEas suggested.That's the most the mod can do.Since he already apologised,I guess is OK.Just my 2 cents

imperialrealcs : Even though is true you're acting behalf of your friends,please do note that there is nothing as "playing sands" when it comes to business.You break your promise means break.Fault will be both of you and your friends.Don't just push all the faults to your friends.
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ah, i remember u, mr. larkowen who last time backstab me regarding the logitech charger.. i told u rite i never check the product coz u insisting on cod that day and promise 1 to 1 exchange on next day? and i do remember u r the 1 who say it is ok while cod'ing? then whats with the rant in ur thread saying i'm trying to bluff u.. is this the good attitude u mean in business ethic? u teach me smile.gif
sometimes, things are not like what u expected.. good n punctual trader doesnt mean can be taiko but then, i confirm want only when he able to provide me rm180 n assuming he able to reply fast, i might already taken from him smile.gif
like i said, things are not like we expected, he might have difficulties having internet access etc.. but i cannot do anything since i do not need any amp for my car -.- take for example if u r in my situation, do u still buy his amp eventhought u do not need a amp? u might say yes coz u might say i can resell again or whatsoever but not for me smile.gif
rm180 is kinda stiff for me considering im juz a student smile.gif
but talk here and there, i will not blame him instead of myself smile.gif
mod, i'm ready to be in Minor Offence with some warning for my offences sweat.gif

QUOTE(armed_and_dangerous @ Feb 24 2006, 10:37 PM)
i was just wondering why is it your friend dont want to bid from dandan himself and ask you to bid for him but in the end he ffk dandan and buy from another forumer? blink.gif

And why is it his identity is so secretive that u can only mention it to the mods ohmy.gif
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1st of all, my friend is not a lowyat.net forumer n he doesnt have any internet access and do not noe how to read/type english coz he is juz a foreman.. say he is stupid if u want smile.gif
2nd, some seller might want privacy?
3rd, mod noe can edi.. unless mod ask me and mod ask 'his' permission to put his name here tongue.gif
4rd, as suggested, i'm ready to be in minor offence thread with some warning.. please do soo and close this thread soo i wont miss any reply.. later ppl ask me something and if i didnt reply, they easily make assumption that i'm joybidder smile.gif (heck, did i even bid for something laugh.gif brows.gif )

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imperialrealcs : Even though is true you're acting behalf of your friends,please do note that there is nothing as "playing sands" when it comes to business.You break your promise means break.Fault will be both of you and your friends.Don't just push all the faults to your friends.

heck again, did u really read my post? and heck, read properly 2# before saying i juz blame all on my friend smile.gif backstabber laugh.gif
and heck, that time u didnt even reply my post on ur thread looking for logitech charger smile.gif

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Feb 25 2006, 01:43 AM
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post Feb 25 2006, 10:06 AM

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When did I backstab you regarding the logitech charger? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

I didn't even know you and I didn't even interest in something called LOGITECH CHARGER sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Please make sure you did your research first before accusing me with something like that... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Logitech charger????Nop....You got the wrong guy...

I didn't deal any thing with you before....Still you got the wrong person la,dude... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Please don't simply accuse me like that......

I never never did any transaction with you...ok?



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post Feb 25 2006, 10:15 AM

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haiyah......hmmm...life is getting harder...because of all this FFK-ers!!!
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post Feb 25 2006, 01:53 PM

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relax pal.. you have your day.. he will have his... i've already have mine... still not complaining coz i suspected it from beginning... anyway cheers all biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2006, 02:18 PM

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yaloh take it ez la bro smile.gif

i also kena ffk many times liao last time when i sell my GT4 tongue.gif




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post Feb 25 2006, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(larkowen @ Feb 25 2006, 10:06 AM)
When did I backstab you regarding the logitech charger?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

I didn't even know you and I didn't even interest in something called LOGITECH CHARGER  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Please make sure you did your research first before accusing me with something like that...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Logitech charger????Nop....You got the wrong guy...

I didn't deal any thing with you before....Still you got the wrong person la,dude...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Please don't simply accuse me like that......

I never never did any transaction with you...ok?
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lol
i will not forget smile.gif
i always remember LARKOWEN in my mind smile.gif
coz u r the 1st person who backstab in LYN afaik smile.gif
stop denying sweat.gif
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post Feb 25 2006, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Feb 25 2006, 04:58 PM)
lol
i will not forget smile.gif
i always remember LARKOWEN in my mind smile.gif
coz u r the 1st person who backstab in LYN afaik smile.gif
stop denying  sweat.gif
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LOLz.....I didn't know anything about your charger...I didn't see you before...

In case you didn't know my face,I'm skinny and wearing spectacles....

You may do all your research....lol
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Email : serngloon@gmail.com , krovikan@hotmail.com

EDITED : pic removed...I'm wondering what is he thinking about.....Not clear???Gave him my details he still no ideas....lolz

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I'm sorry to dandan because used up his thread to prove my innocents...Apologies....
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post Feb 25 2006, 07:22 PM

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i cant see properly that nite laugh.gif
what more do u 1 to prove ur innocent oh mr.
i think this thread is goin nowhere tongue.gif
and dont u noe how to use 'edit' button?

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Feb 23 2006, 02:04 PM)
ok, i've been waiting for this thread to come out smile.gif
1st of all, my friend who wanted to buy his amp urgently..
then he confirm after seeing the picture he provided and ask if can deal at rm180.. but this fella late reply and my friend saw another post also selling amp and brought from him.. who is the buyer i will only tell mod if being asked smile.gif i dont want u to clash with him..
soo i do admit is my fault.. so peace guy smile.gif
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You made an offer and the offer hasn't been accepted yet. You can withdraw your offer before acceptance. However, if you did not communicate your withdrawal to the seller before he had accepted it, then you are at fault.
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post Feb 25 2006, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(badawi_rocks @ Feb 25 2006, 08:02 PM)
You made an offer and the offer hasn't been accepted yet.  You can withdraw your offer before acceptance.  However, if you did not communicate your withdrawal to the seller before he had accepted it, then you are at fault.
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great, mod coming in smile.gif
ok, i offer him.. but he havent answer me.. in the meanwhile, i'm dealing with other people as well.. after the deal done, i come back from COD then only i get his pm.. n that time i answer him and wa la, here come this thread smile.gif
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Feb 25 2006, 08:32 PM)
great, mod coming in smile.gif
ok, i offer him.. but he havent answer me.. in the meanwhile, i'm dealing with other people as well.. after the deal done, i come back from COD then only i get his pm.. n that time i answer him and wa la, here come this thread smile.gif
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Did you withdraw your offer before he PMed his acceptance of your offer?

If yes, then you are right.

If no, then you go to the MO list.
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post Feb 25 2006, 10:17 PM

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swt, to me it dont seem like any FFK case lor. i offer, if u accept and COD arrange like dat ony ffk ma not meh?

if still in a diccussion and deciding whether to buy or not, like dat also called FFK then i think i shudnt be trading here man.

Everyone is looking for a better deal, if im gonna get a better deal at other forrumers for sure ill get frm him. i havun even pay the money / arrange a COD with u yet. hw can dis be considered ffk? i dun understand.
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very fussy then decided to confirm at rm180

Plz read the very first post.
Thank you.
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swt. datz wat the seller saying ony. so if ppl wanna complain wud they say that ppl is offering for rm180 ? also imperial did say hez not gonna seal da deal rite? no money involve. no cod. not even calls yet rite?

such deal boleh jadi kar kawan?
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QUOTE(badawi_rocks @ Feb 25 2006, 09:34 PM)
Did you withdraw your offer before he PMed his acceptance of your offer?

If yes, then you are right.

If no, then you go to the MO list.
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nope, i didnt cancel before he accept smile.gif
soo thats y i've said many times in my previous post that u can give me warning n put me into whatever list as suggested.. i didnt argue on that rite? coz i noe i'm wrong

QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 25 2006, 10:17 PM)
swt, to me it dont seem like any FFK case lor. i offer, if u accept and COD arrange like dat ony ffk ma not meh?

if still in a diccussion and deciding whether to buy or not, like dat also called FFK then i think i shudnt be trading here man.

Everyone is looking for a better deal, if im gonna get a better deal at other forrumers for sure ill get frm him. i havun even pay the money / arrange a COD with u yet. hw can dis be considered ffk? i dun understand.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 25 2006, 10:32 PM)
swt. datz wat the seller saying ony. so if ppl wanna complain wud they say that ppl is offering for rm180 ? also imperial did say hez not gonna seal da deal rite? no money involve. no cod. not even calls yet rite?

such deal boleh jadi kar kawan?
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actually ho, i think what u said is very true..FFK, fong fei kei, means arrange time to cod etc etc but end up didnt turn up.. isnt that only what we call FFK?besides, like what being mentioned, no time wasted, no money involved, whats with all the fuss? then why cant i say 'why seller reply soo slow'? in business world what also need fast rite? aiyo.. soo many things to argue here n i dun wana waste time here smile.gif mod, admin : juz put me into whatever list to make everyone satisfied thumbup.gif

to LARKOWEN : no need to PM me several time regarding what i said smile.gif
u think u didnt do soo, then soo be it smile.gif
i also lz to pursue this matter

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Feb 26 2006, 03:07 AM)
nope, i didnt cancel before he accept smile.gif
soo thats y i've said many times in my previous post that u can give me warning n put me into whatever list as suggested..
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Righto. Let's not drag this on anymore.
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