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post Oct 23 2012, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 19 2012, 05:44 PM)
Anyone ever spotted a short-body bichir? Pics :

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They are actually produced this way. The LFS boss told me that they were line breed and genetically enhance to be short body. You can get easily from Singapore fish shop.


Added on October 23, 2012, 8:52 pm
QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Oct 20 2012, 10:07 AM)
How and where did you guys bought your red sand?
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I tried using amazonia for my monster tank before...and it only lasted for one month and i switch back to gravel. Amazonia soil will easily clog up the whole tank when my binchers raged along the bottom....

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post Nov 25 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Nov 25 2012, 02:51 PM)
For me it's like dry wet filter.
All media is 50/50 in water and surface. Better bacteria breeding.
I wanna put foams so can tapis many times the bio-loads.
Carnivore tank is very heavy when we're talking bio-loads.

I might be wrong.
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Yea, big fish, eat more, big poo, heavy bio-loads tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Nov 25 2012, 03:48 PM)
Yep. But still we're still gatal punggung.
Also like to keep many big shitters.  laugh.gif
Sambil WC sambil complain
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hahaa they are just like drugs. When u ve one monsters...u will want more...and then more and more despite they are big shitters.... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Nov 25 2012, 04:58 PM)
i want goliath. Love the shining coat (coat?  doh.gif ), and sharp taring.
But only 4ft with birchirs and oscar.
Hb already  mad.gif  mad.gif

Johnson,
If i want a 8ft or 10ft tanpa braces and legs.
How much destruction would i feel in my wallet?


Added on November 25, 2012, 5:03 pmwhat do you call the pond liner in chinese?
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Yeah i am aiming for one too. I bought two back to kuching from KL...they didn survive the trip...damn....sad.gif

8ft for tank i think nearly 1k. For rack depends on what kind of quality you are aiming for. roughly 3k with filter.
I'm planning to move to 8.3.3 before chinese new year hahahahah. Hopefully Santa can grand me this wish biggrin.gif

Issit the Water proof membrane? i think it's 防水胶。


Added on November 25, 2012, 7:46 pm
QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 25 2012, 06:47 PM)
like that type? i don't think you're able to get it + price is not that cheap cos it is arkelik types. Like i say try to do diy can test your patient yo.. brows.gif if you want ready made i recommend you used the below on the floor types. Cost around 150 +/- only.

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i saw this before. About 150 for one set. Without the internal media.....but i would still go for a sub tank as filter for monster fish keeping.

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post Nov 26 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 25 2012, 08:43 PM)
hahaha...just do for fun nia..wan to cut cost ma. so diy is better.


Added on November 25, 2012, 8:50 pm

subtank? that oso depends boss on your tanks as well. there are no preference to used subtank as filter for monster fish keeping. different ppl different styles but yet i would rather do research which is applicable for my needs and save cost as well. laugh.gif  brows.gif from you used 8 feet tank y not you built a pond which is also cheap if you know how to do it actually. but i still prefer using fibertank/poly tank which is also safe cost and easy to maintain.  thumbup.gif
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I wouldnt prefer pond for my case. As i prefer to view them side ways rather than just from top view. Unless for breeding stingray differnt story la haha. For my situation i guess a top filter for my 6 footer wound not be enough, as it would not be able to overcome all the bioloads my fishes are producing. Not to mention the filter cant be too big if it's a top filter. I tried different kinds of filters before, and in the end subtanks or diy Tangki filter is still the best choice considering u ve an extra space to hide the huge filter biggrin.gif


Added on November 26, 2012, 9:58 am
QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Nov 26 2012, 08:02 AM)
I think that's diy canister with big big space to tapis bio loads.
I'm using the usual 4ft rack to put 2 tanks.
Top tank sure can use sump tank ( maybe at the bottom side)or top filter.
But lower tank can't. Not enough space for tiered top or too low for sump tank.
That's why am considering options.

I googled Taobao for Eheim. Many prices many models.
Any other brands other than Eheim? And if it's Eheim, which model?
Maybe two moderate canisters to support the future bio loads.

FYI, my tanks are in my living room. With a kid roaming free ^^
So, it should be safe from drowning.

LuQee, You also from Ipoh kan?

Johnson, which goliath should i get my hands on That WONT burst my 4ft.
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i think any GAFT or VAFT will easily out grown the 4ft tank. But not to worry, if u get a 5inch baby goliath. U will still ve plenty of time to fund for a bigger tank rclxms.gif

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post Nov 26 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Nov 26 2012, 10:16 AM)
I dont want to puncture holes in my current aquarium.
And also no space.
Who can suggest canister brands? MIC also acceptable as long as can last few years
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I am using a tangki filter, it somehow function as a sub tank filter. I found a way which i would ve to drink holes while allow the water to overflow into my tangki just like a subtank setup. : biggrin.gif
Will try to post some photos ltr on.
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post Nov 28 2012, 09:23 AM

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My DIY tangki filter.

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the over flow box so i dun ve to drill holes on my tank
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post Nov 28 2012, 12:17 PM

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this is a draft diagram of the filter. Any comment just shoot me haha

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post Nov 28 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 28 2012, 12:38 PM)
is ok la as long your tank is clean is ok already. but why don't you try without the small canister. meaning all goes to big filter.
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it wont work without the overflow box. Hence if u use direct pipe inlet to filter, once the pump power cuts off the water will over flow from the tangki. So this is where the overflow box comes in. It helps to maintain and block water level from overflowing even if the pump is not working. There is only one pump in this system.
Check this video. It's somehow similar to the one below. Just mine is a simple version. The reason for all this trouble is mainly because i can't drill hole in my tank. The overflow box is mainly to solve this issue for sub tank filter system.


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post Dec 1 2012, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Nov 28 2012, 08:58 PM)
Cool setup. Like ur album 'November Setup' very much. Those fat bichirs u have, make me drool.gif 

What u feed them?
Nice bichirs. Ur big Endi very beautiful one smile.gif


Added on November 28, 2012, 9:02 pm
Thanks. I was wondering how actually overflow tank works. The pic helps a lot  notworthy.gif
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u r welcome rclxms.gif glad it help hehe


Added on December 1, 2012, 2:15 am
QUOTE(kakarocht @ Nov 29 2012, 12:27 PM)
btw your tangki filter what are the material u used for the filter?
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u mean the media i use in the filter? first layer sponge, 2nd 3rd 4th layer mixture of corals, lava rocks and bio rings.


Added on December 1, 2012, 2:16 am
QUOTE(beawolf64 @ Nov 30 2012, 07:38 PM)
My primitive giant wild betta Brooding

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very niceee~ thumbup.gif congrats too ~

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post Dec 1 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 1 2012, 08:42 PM)
Whoa.. u really serious into this kind of filtration system. My experience with cannister filter, really hard to maintain cuz its very heavy, and we have to open the lid up to clean the medias, one by one. So i gave up on cannister filter for now, although i still keep it well. Pic :

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Guys, i just stumbled on this pic from this http://www.greenlake.com.my/home.htm.

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Does anyone know this company?

Even a 12' and 11' fiber tanks with glass  drool.gif
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i am looking for one too. But sadly they dun ve it in east malaysia. cry.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 3 2012, 08:43 PM)
Finally a quarantine tank for feeder fishes. Before this i used to stock them in turtle tank, to realize that the condition didnt suit the little fellas well. But i still keep a few strong ones to accompany my turtle (and cleaning his shell as well biggrin.gif )

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Notice in the 2nd pic, the fishes are in poor shape, too skinny. No wonder many got stuck in sump filter if i just transfer them from shop to predator tank straightaway. So i think raising them a while could do good, u know, stuff them with good foods and better condition.

Beside the turtle tank (4 x 3 x 2 feet temporary tank).

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The known benefit of keeping ur stuffs well, is that u always can get to it anytime in future. I just re-unboxed my old waterfall hanging filter + used plastic ware + old plastic plants.
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yea it is always a good idea to gutloads our feeders before feeding them to our beloved fishes rclxms.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 3 2012, 08:43 PM)
Finally a quarantine tank for feeder fishes. Before this i used to stock them in turtle tank, to realize that the condition didnt suit the little fellas well. But i still keep a few strong ones to accompany my turtle (and cleaning his shell as well biggrin.gif )

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Notice in the 2nd pic, the fishes are in poor shape, too skinny. No wonder many got stuck in sump filter if i just transfer them from shop to predator tank straightaway. So i think raising them a while could do good, u know, stuff them with good foods and better condition.

Beside the turtle tank (4 x 3 x 2 feet temporary tank).

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The known benefit of keeping ur stuffs well, is that u always can get to it anytime in future. I just re-unboxed my old waterfall hanging filter + used plastic ware + old plastic plants.
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yea it is always a good idea to gutloads our feeders before feeding them to our beloved fishes rclxms.gif
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post Dec 17 2012, 08:02 PM

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Cute Spotted Gar


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