Hi guys,
Thinking of installing an alarm system for my house. Have received quotations for SP 4000 at RM 2900 and SP 6000 for RM 3000.
Can anyone tell me why i shoud get the SP6000 instead of teh SP 4000?
Thanks
Crow

Depend how many zoning you need. Since it is just RM100 different, might well go to SP6000 which you can have better details which zone got alert.

Ok got it thanks Xerox
Crow

Can share contact of the Paradox alarm guy?

PM already

Can PM the installer contact?

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hi can pm your installer contact? i also finding alarm installer

pls pm me ur contact too~! thanks

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I went to Homedex last week and I almost want to sign up but when the sales person show me the full price, I got a shock. The price tht they put in the catalog is without installation and wiring cost. End up it cost RM1000 extra only for wiring and installation.

I've bought SP5500, not yet install. but to clarify for my semi-D house with a hall (main door, sliding door, 3 windows), 4 rooms with windows, kitchen (a door & window) which model do you suggest? I also thought that to include the smoke detectors & IR sensor above the ceilling. Kindly suggest & thanks.

I bet you should at least go for SP6000. Please check the link for the comparison.

link: http://www.paradox.com/Products/default.asp?PID=48

TQ, xerox1234

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Added on November 6, 2012, 4:35 pmBTW, normally how much it cost you for SP6000 system for semi-D house including installation?

This post has been edited by John_Lenna: Nov 6 2012, 04:35 PM

can u pm me the installer contact also. thanks

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Normally should be 3-4k depend how many PIR, smoke detector and other accessories.

Please don't not hesitate do contact us to get the best price

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Please PM me your installer too..thx

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bro, how was ur installation and can share user experience. anyway, if not done yet, a word of caution to make sure that they do the wiring WITH casing. any crossing with your electric wiring might just cause it to be going slightly cuckoo...

Hi Nexus Khan,
SP 6000 installed. No complaints. My guy did not put the wires in a casing and saw your thread a little too late. However been using it now for 2 weeks. No interfernce from power cables and have had very heavy lightning and thunder but no effect.

Only had a heart attack when the damn lights installer drilled a hole i the masterbedroom (to put the fan remote control holedr) and cut off the power to the my alarm keypad. Called my installer who came, hacked the wall with chisel and joined the wires back and replastered, all is good now.

My only stress is now the curtain fellow coming 2 jan and hope when they drill the railings they do not cut off any more concealed alarm wires.

A word of advise for those who planning to conceal alarm wires. Take photos of your hacked walls before replastering so that you know where the concelaed wires are running and you can advise others who come to do drilling. My regret was not doing this earlier

Regards
Crow

Hey Crow, mind sharing the spec of your SP6000? What is included in this RM3k?

Also, please pm me the contact. Thank you.

sorry for the late response bro, hope it has all been well, did you take up the full spectrum of coverage including the parameter sensors? and splitting the partition to 1 & 2 to really enjoy the StayD feature offered by Paradox?

Hey Nexuskhan

This was my package:
PARADOX Alarm: Spectra SP6000 8-Zones expandable Control Panel c/w
 SP6000 8-Zones on-board controller c/w Paradox User Manual x 1set
 Transformer, Recharge-able battery, Paradox uPVC Box x 1 set
 Paradox VDMP3 Voice Dialer x 1 unit
 Paradox 476+ Passive Infrared Motion Detector x 1 units
 Paradox K10LED Keypad x 2 units
 Magnetic Door Contact (for Door, Man-Hole)/Vibration Sensors (for Window/Door Grill)
 External Siren c/w Box with Paradox Sticker, Siren, Strobe Light, Tamper x 1 set
 Internal Siren x 1 unit
 Emergency Button x 2 units
 Concealed Wiring (bare wires, hacking only without patching/plastering work)
 Paradox DG55 Digital Motion Detector @ Terrace

I have the Sleep / Stay /Arm modes activated as well.

You also moving to Denai Alam right?

Crow

This post has been edited by crow190569: Jan 4 2013, 12:59 PM

Total cost how much???

can pm me the price also? thanks

my move would be in 2015 only crow once the Saffron Hills is completed. Good package you got but after reading the potential of paradox, whoever that i buy the system from is gonna be having a tough time to cope up with my demands hahaha...

My house comes with free alarm system, but the free alarm function is limited.
I can't manage it using phone to arm/disarm. It will just call.
I stayed in a double storey house, have have about 13 sensor (mag and vibration).
The current installer basically just loop most of the sensor to get about 8 zone.

Due to this I bought the SP6000 + VDMP3 + TM40 and DIY the installation + improve the connection with ATZ and EOL.
Now all the sensors has independent zone. (this system has 8 zones but with ATZ can go up to 16 zones... if keypad support it can give 1 more extra zone or 2 zone with ATZ)
The TM40 user interface is very nice and easy to program as well.
I DIYed as all the wiring is already done and conceal, I spend lots of time figuring how they loop and link all the sensors only..

RM 2980

Ok bro gd luck with the installation

DIY bro

DIY too pening bro. I just left it to the pro. Being an intermediate house 8 zones were more then enuf for me.

SP5500 unable to tell u which zone alerted?

I think even SP 4000 will tell you which zone alerted but if you have more zones than you can have a better idea of where the intrusion is.

Bro Crow190569, may i know what is the different with the Paradox 476+ Passive Infrared Motion Detector and Paradox DG55 Digital Motion Detector @ Terrace?

DG 55 is Digital

http://www.paradox.com/Products/CAT_MOTION...ATID=8#DualEdge

This webpage indicates the difference. Using the 476+ outdoor my installer said there might be some false triggers. Checked out the site and since he was upgrading the motion sensor with no change in price i thought why not.

Crow

Hi Crow,

PM me your Paradox installer. Do they have the wireless alarm?

Yes they do hv a wireless system and will pM you shortly

Hi Crow. PM me too your Paradox installer contact number. Thanks.

PM ed

Crow, can u pls PM me too. In your list how many sensors did u subscribe to.

11 vibration sensors
5 Magnetic sensor (3 doors and 2 manholes)

PMED

Bro I've being offered sp5500 with comes with voice module.
It should have the same feature as voice diaper right?

bro, can pm me your installer contact ?
im at puchong area. thanks

PMed

crow, can pm me too, the installer contact? need it urgently

Please pm me the contracter details, thabks

Crow - very detailed explanation. TQ.
Can share the contact of the Paradox alarm guy?

PMed you contact info

Wanna to ask when technician doing the wiring, any PVC pipe provide?

Normaly no but you can ask and tehy may charge you more. It is actually better to hv PVC piping. I regret not using piping
However so far no issues

Please PM me too.

i got quoted sp6000 for rm2600 with voice module + gsm dialer. i dont know want to laugh at the bluguard installer or myself.

this incl piped wiring, 2 keypad without lcd, backup battery, some sensors around intermediate double storey and without PIR.

Hi Praetorion, can PM me your installer contact? In desperate need of an installer now.
Thanks,.

Me too. Pls pm me the contact. Thks lot

where are you located? i called up their distri and they forward my contact to them. i didnt really expect much but in this case clearly Canadian product cost as much or less in my case compare to a local product.

I trying to compare apple to apple but the offer on my table now really obvious who i should go with. i am trying to justify going to local brand considering the effort they put in to create such a competitive product but i would expect it to cost less not more.

Heard this product follow USD currency. If USD increase that means MYR decrease & we need pay more.

Well lets put it this way. Did the distributor here do back order on all their stock? Maybe this will happen when they do by batch and so happen this new batch they ordered now, is higher cost due to the recent weaken RM. But they would have had a buffer this from the beginning.

Still the consideration is I am getting 2 products, one is imported (assumed) and another is fully local at the same price. As for after sale service, that I leave it to your imagination as both are from companies that covers everything from CCTV to alarm to auto gate, the usual.

last time i have been ask price before. Let see when that time i wanna install how much. I hope price not increase so high compare previous quotation.

bro, can pm me your installer contact to install at bander sg long ? THANKS

crow.. mind sharing the contact no..

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thanks

I would like to know recently quotaion you all get have increase price? Currently USD rate increase.

I get this quotation as below. Are the price reasonable?

SP6000 including conceal but not provide any plastering is RM2350 Cw: 1 x battery set, 2 x keypad, 15 vibration / magnetic sensor, 1 x Motion sensor, 1 x internal and external siren. Cable 0.20mm core 4. Conceal not include pvc. BTW i get info regarding core 4 & core 7. Normally core 4 for residential & core 7 for industries. Is it true?

This post has been edited by petlu28: Aug 29 2013, 04:24 PM

Hey Petlu,
Are the following items included?

Voice Dialer?
Is your Keypad LED or LCD? LCD more expensive.
What about Emergency/Panic Button?

Mine with all of the above and an extra motion sensor (Paradox DG55 Digital Motion Detector) came about to just below RM 3K. If possible, from what I have read get your guy install cables in PVC tubing as is suppose to help with interferences from outside. Mine does not have it but so far I have had no problems.

As for core 4 and core 7 i have no idea.

Crow

This post has been edited by crow190569: Aug 30 2013, 09:10 AM

Me too want the contact. PM me pls..thks in advance

I am not sure keypad LED or LCD. This is price & accessories package he quote me. The motion sensor is no weather proof function RM150. I wonder what means no weather proof function?

do mind PM the contact?

Can you PM me your package?

Put inside house no need weatherproof lah.

Makesure it good quality. Not trigger happy 1.

Oh. haha okok just wonder why he say like this. Are motion sensor have 2 type?

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Paradox 476+ Passive Infrared Motion Detector - Non Weather proof indoors

Paradox DG55 Digital Motion Detector - Our door use but if possible in shaded area can last longer RM 230

This post has been edited by crow190569: Aug 30 2013, 12:01 PM

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I don't no how many type in the market. just don't look for the cheapest.

My 1 ontop the ceiling always trigger happy. Sometime minight sleeping, alarm sound. Jump out from my bed.

last time i using wireless one. Sometime will trigger at night also.

Paradox i have been using since 2004 in my old house. Generally no problems. Once in a while the clock time goes due to lightning and once in a while the sensor rosak (my kitchen window) once. SO fly sit also it goes off. Just called Chubb at that time, they replaced the sensor and all ok.

The new one installed in Dec this year all good so far. Occasional false alarm trigger due to renovation works behind my house.

Crow

Thanks your info.

I wonder the company Chubb is the international Chubb or just a "clone" Chubb here.

Initially I did not know about Paradox so i got international chubb (That time under Sime Darby) to do the alarm system. They used paradox equipment but handled teh CMS. However when i moved to my house there was no phone line so could not connect to CMS. SO never used their CMS service.

Sorry guys :

Paradox 476+ Passive Infrared Motion Detector - Non Weather proof indoors Analogue

Paradox DG55 Digital Motion Detector - IS NOT for outdoor use It is Digital. However mine is in terrace area outside but covered.

All the sensor must be secure and not easy to trigger alarm. Don't adjust too sensetive.

If your alarm everytime trigger, it annoying your neighbour. And the most problem part, nobody will care about your house when it "really trigger". Everybody brush off as false alarm. Than have alarm or no have alarm doesn't matter.

Not always. Now take out already.

crow190569 How you enjoy Paradox? Mind to PM the contact for your installer? Tq

What different between 476 & 500?

I would like to know Paradox SP6000 8 zone or 16 zone. Some mention 8 zone & some say 16 zone. Which one correct?

Guys, mind to share your view here?

I intend to install home security system because i do not want to install grill. Do you think a SP6000 8 zones can function as good as the traditional grill?

The alarm will do its job, however the grille will just delay his activity. When alarm goes with grille he will not have much time to break in. But if all just windows he can still run in grab your notebook, jewellery (easy to carry stuff) and run out before your guards can do anything. SO it will depend on the security in your area.

In my area i just read the thieves were leaving in a house in the neighborhood. So they can break in and no need to go out with the loot.
Smart huh? Anyway my 2 cents
crow

Hey Petlu28
FYI can expand. DO not ask me how

SP6000: 8 to 32-Zone Control Panel
Same features as the SP4000, with the following differences:
• 8 zone inputs or 16 with zone doubling; expandable to 32 zones
• Supports REM3, two-way communication (requires RTX3, V1.31 or higher)
• 2 (+ 2 optional) on-board PGM outputs, positive or negative triggering
• 1 alarm relay (optional)
• 1.5A switching power supply
• Supports RX1 Wireless Receiver and RTX3 Wireless Expansion Module

Crow

Must install grille brother.
3 layers is needed.

1. Grille
2. Alarm Sensor : Vibration Sensor and magnetic sensor
3. Motion Sensor

I got 4 motion sensor the whole house, planned to install 2 more.
No way they can come in without triggering the alarm.

This post has been edited by sovietmah: Sep 9 2013, 02:42 PM

Wah!!! where you install?

Haha, can't tell you la later got ppl come in my house.
But no way the thief can come in without trigger the alarm.
chances are too low.

Thanks for your comments. My concern is mainly on the appearance. Imagine if i put on the grille on this type of window in all bedrooms, isn't it like jail?

Truly understand ur problem now.
I guess u got to stick with motion sensor at this area.
And probably vibration sensor put on the frame there and paint with choco color

Hopefully both the vibration and motion sensors will do the job for me.

Bro, in my honest opinion, I would strongly recommend you to have the grille installed. Think of it this way, if the grille is your first layer, the intruder will trigger and his only option is to take time to cut thru or run, in which case, he would opt to run.

If it is just motion sensor and he triggers, it is ok if he just takes what he can and runs away, but hearing the recent cases, I would just want to avoid any chances of coming face to face with the intruder or worst still, if he comes looking for the house owner to have a 'chat'...

Safety above everything else is my motto... Just my opinion and thought for all of us to ponder. Your other alternative is to have motion sensors in your lawn and have paradox mark that as partition 2. So he jump in only, alarm would be triggered...