Aug 4 2013, 03:51 AM
QUOTE(amgmerce78 @ Jul 10 2013, 08:00 PM)
I believe we met the same person, description fits, especially the rude pushy part. So guys beware, the modus operandi is as below.
After paying for your shopping at the carrefour counter, you will be approached by a friendly girl from one of the booths just in front of the counter. First she would demonstrate some magic trick with ring and chain and then ask you to try slide the ring into the chain and if it goes in she will say you both have fate. Tip: don't play with the magic thing when she ask you to hold it, it's just to get you to build rapport with her. Uses flirting a lot. Then she will get you to miscall her to get your number and remind you not to forget to ask her out for dinner.
I did not call nor sms even once because I am not interested in girls of such stature but a week later, she called and asked me out for dinner. I was thinking, wtf, is there a girl as cheap as this to ask a stranger guy out on a date? I already suspected something wrong from the very beginning at the magic booth but played along with her just to see what it's all about.
At the dinner, she will start to flirt a lot like hinting at a relationship between both of you, etc, which though is good acting but doesn't sound very convincing. Then she will make you feel good while digging for information such as do you go for overseas trips often, where do you stay, what car you drive, all of which I gave vague answers and did not volunteer any detail due to the strong suspicion. If she knows that you have money she will charge at you like she is entitled to it sort of like a hungry hog or more appropriately the beggars from the streets of shenzen. This I learned from the mistake of accidently letting out some information in the course of the “friendly conversation”. At this point she will try to demonstrate a “magic trick” involving your wallet. I was prudent not to let her have it. Alternatively she asked for 2 cards like credit card or ic which I also refused, note the point here - the cards which would be used to fulfill her devious goal in a forceful way.
Then she would start playing some games with you and then interpret you as person who is not good in savings, she don't like people who don't save, etc then she will go on about the savings plan. Then without warning or consent whether you agree to buy or not, she will just whip out the form and start filling in whatever detail about you she already knew, like phone number(good thing she didn't get the ic or credit card earlier). The conversation about the plan was suspiciously short and lightly detailed.
The next thing that happen will be what separates the civilized from the vulgar. She will harrass you for your ic.... non stop literally without asking whether you agree to buy or not and when you decline, she will raise her voice oblivious to the privacy of other diners and her own dignity. I would say 80% of the conversation about the plan is to forcefully get your ic to sign up, everything else and your concerns about the plan is just brushed off as if you were some typf of financially illiterate school boy. Damn hard up and desperate, how disrespectful and vermin like for people who meetup for the first time..... I can't believe there are such type of people, maybe extremely poor parts of china or india but here?)..... even those from the world's oldest proffession don't behave like that. Failling to get your ic, she will then ask for your credit card or cash. Told her will need to consider and learn more first(probably afraid I might stumble across this thread) but she started throwing insults about what a small amount it is and why i can't pay for it to “save” even though I am in business. She will also throw ic on the table to try to get your trust (will anyone who have met her and lives nearby speak to the parents about it.... futile if came from the same mold).
She created quite a ruckus in the restaurant with the loud whining and begging, the whole restaurant was literally looking at her........ some people at the other table (lowly rodents of another species hard up for their facebook cheese) even took pictures/video of this b**** getting pissed off on “why you can't afford to save with such a small amount for the plan”...... a tactic to shame and embarrass into handing over the ic to seal the deal (woe be upon those stupid enough to hand over the ic just because a stranger they have just met started throwing tantrums so that they will bend to her will).
When she realise that she can't get you to budge, she will change to sob story tactic..... eyes getting teary, saying she will get fired soon because no sales for sometime, earn small money at the booth, want her dad to have better life after he retire from his menial job. This is done in a loud voice as if she is a victim of your inconsiderate decision not to surrender your ic, probably to gain sympathy from nearby tables, hoping they will chime in to persuade the victim to sign up? I got fed up and left without looking back at the rubbish I have just left behind. I should have walked off earlier when she started her tantrums and rubbish but I was trying to be diplomatic. It all happened so sudden towards the end that when I realised that all she wants is my ic/card/cash and that there is no way for diplomacy to work I left with utter disgust without looking back. Good luck to anyone who plan to invest with this trash. I know people in my industry won't since I have spread the news.
Oh yeah she dresses like going clubbing for the “date” so if you guys don't mind the harrasment or is thick faced enough, do agree to go with her on a “date”....... good training for people entering thick skinned industries. Note that at first this person will be very friendly and pleasant during the meal and after the meal all the nonsense will start. For those who want to entertain themselves, get out the moment she whips out the form or start the word game and most importantly never volunteer any information or document or create any rapport or you're done for. If you are the weak type, assure yourself by leaving your ic/card/cash somewhere before meeting up. The face is just so so for me, nothing special... though some desperate bros will think otherwise...... saw some post here some bro even want to get in touch with them for some chance, well my thought is that you would have to be a vcd seller/hawker or someone from a lowly station in life to be able to be the right pair. My advice is don't even attempt, this is not worth even a single cent, unless you are the same species of shameless person with no dignity.
Btw name has a”T” there and the chinese clan she belongs to fits the stereotype of such people with the way she behave. I have never met such a lowly person in my life, seriously. Even the beggars from shenzen can't compare when the whole group of them come shouting and chasing after your loose change as if they have a right to it because at least they looked terrible and are worth pitying while this person uses cunning and brute persistance to try to force or should I say relieve/extort you of the rights to your money. With this type of attitude even if they pay me 100% out of the puny max amount allowed i'd tell them to keep it, I can make more investing elsewhere. I'd not have myself extorted and having my intelligence insulted and undermined by giving in to such a lowly character.
Sorry to hear about your situation. After paying for your shopping at the carrefour counter, you will be approached by a friendly girl from one of the booths just in front of the counter. First she would demonstrate some magic trick with ring and chain and then ask you to try slide the ring into the chain and if it goes in she will say you both have fate. Tip: don't play with the magic thing when she ask you to hold it, it's just to get you to build rapport with her. Uses flirting a lot. Then she will get you to miscall her to get your number and remind you not to forget to ask her out for dinner.
I did not call nor sms even once because I am not interested in girls of such stature but a week later, she called and asked me out for dinner. I was thinking, wtf, is there a girl as cheap as this to ask a stranger guy out on a date? I already suspected something wrong from the very beginning at the magic booth but played along with her just to see what it's all about.
At the dinner, she will start to flirt a lot like hinting at a relationship between both of you, etc, which though is good acting but doesn't sound very convincing. Then she will make you feel good while digging for information such as do you go for overseas trips often, where do you stay, what car you drive, all of which I gave vague answers and did not volunteer any detail due to the strong suspicion. If she knows that you have money she will charge at you like she is entitled to it sort of like a hungry hog or more appropriately the beggars from the streets of shenzen. This I learned from the mistake of accidently letting out some information in the course of the “friendly conversation”. At this point she will try to demonstrate a “magic trick” involving your wallet. I was prudent not to let her have it. Alternatively she asked for 2 cards like credit card or ic which I also refused, note the point here - the cards which would be used to fulfill her devious goal in a forceful way.
Then she would start playing some games with you and then interpret you as person who is not good in savings, she don't like people who don't save, etc then she will go on about the savings plan. Then without warning or consent whether you agree to buy or not, she will just whip out the form and start filling in whatever detail about you she already knew, like phone number(good thing she didn't get the ic or credit card earlier). The conversation about the plan was suspiciously short and lightly detailed.
The next thing that happen will be what separates the civilized from the vulgar. She will harrass you for your ic.... non stop literally without asking whether you agree to buy or not and when you decline, she will raise her voice oblivious to the privacy of other diners and her own dignity. I would say 80% of the conversation about the plan is to forcefully get your ic to sign up, everything else and your concerns about the plan is just brushed off as if you were some typf of financially illiterate school boy. Damn hard up and desperate, how disrespectful and vermin like for people who meetup for the first time..... I can't believe there are such type of people, maybe extremely poor parts of china or india but here?)..... even those from the world's oldest proffession don't behave like that. Failling to get your ic, she will then ask for your credit card or cash. Told her will need to consider and learn more first(probably afraid I might stumble across this thread) but she started throwing insults about what a small amount it is and why i can't pay for it to “save” even though I am in business. She will also throw ic on the table to try to get your trust (will anyone who have met her and lives nearby speak to the parents about it.... futile if came from the same mold).
She created quite a ruckus in the restaurant with the loud whining and begging, the whole restaurant was literally looking at her........ some people at the other table (lowly rodents of another species hard up for their facebook cheese) even took pictures/video of this b**** getting pissed off on “why you can't afford to save with such a small amount for the plan”...... a tactic to shame and embarrass into handing over the ic to seal the deal (woe be upon those stupid enough to hand over the ic just because a stranger they have just met started throwing tantrums so that they will bend to her will).
When she realise that she can't get you to budge, she will change to sob story tactic..... eyes getting teary, saying she will get fired soon because no sales for sometime, earn small money at the booth, want her dad to have better life after he retire from his menial job. This is done in a loud voice as if she is a victim of your inconsiderate decision not to surrender your ic, probably to gain sympathy from nearby tables, hoping they will chime in to persuade the victim to sign up? I got fed up and left without looking back at the rubbish I have just left behind. I should have walked off earlier when she started her tantrums and rubbish but I was trying to be diplomatic. It all happened so sudden towards the end that when I realised that all she wants is my ic/card/cash and that there is no way for diplomacy to work I left with utter disgust without looking back. Good luck to anyone who plan to invest with this trash. I know people in my industry won't since I have spread the news.
Oh yeah she dresses like going clubbing for the “date” so if you guys don't mind the harrasment or is thick faced enough, do agree to go with her on a “date”....... good training for people entering thick skinned industries. Note that at first this person will be very friendly and pleasant during the meal and after the meal all the nonsense will start. For those who want to entertain themselves, get out the moment she whips out the form or start the word game and most importantly never volunteer any information or document or create any rapport or you're done for. If you are the weak type, assure yourself by leaving your ic/card/cash somewhere before meeting up. The face is just so so for me, nothing special... though some desperate bros will think otherwise...... saw some post here some bro even want to get in touch with them for some chance, well my thought is that you would have to be a vcd seller/hawker or someone from a lowly station in life to be able to be the right pair. My advice is don't even attempt, this is not worth even a single cent, unless you are the same species of shameless person with no dignity.
Btw name has a”T” there and the chinese clan she belongs to fits the stereotype of such people with the way she behave. I have never met such a lowly person in my life, seriously. Even the beggars from shenzen can't compare when the whole group of them come shouting and chasing after your loose change as if they have a right to it because at least they looked terrible and are worth pitying while this person uses cunning and brute persistance to try to force or should I say relieve/extort you of the rights to your money. With this type of attitude even if they pay me 100% out of the puny max amount allowed i'd tell them to keep it, I can make more investing elsewhere. I'd not have myself extorted and having my intelligence insulted and undermined by giving in to such a lowly character.
I just want to share my experience dealing with this group of people, particularly this so called "agent" Tra*y L*m. They have 5 branches, their HQ being in Kayu Ara, and branches in Puchong, Setapak, Kepong, Taman Mayang.
What has been written is exactly 100% true as written above.
Their modus operandi is simple, as many has stated they get contacts by having magic trick booths particularly in hypermarkets i.e. Giant, tesco, Jusco.
Firstly, they are there to ripped you off with their RM0.02 china made products for RM50 or more. Secondly of course is to get your contact. Then exactly what will happen as above.
I know a lot about this group of people to be honest, starting from their Etiqa days which they got banned, subsequently to P1-Wimax, Unifi in front of banks which ended up in the same fate (They just use them as a front btw, never selling any of their products). Knowing that these large organizations have burst their balls, they started this "magic" crap which is not affiliated to any companies.
I also understand that their recruitment activities have slowed down after news have spread about their mischief. They usually go to colleges or shopping centers near colleges to recruit. Sadly I have a friend that got misguided into this and even quitted her studies, only to realise when it's too late!
And if you're wondering how they buy their cars? Simple, most of them don't "buy" them themselves, apart from a very few top line "agents. They con well to do business people to become their guarantors. Do you think a 21-22 yo can buy these RM300K cars doing this nonsense? Honestly, they will do anything. And I mean anything, I'll leave the rest to your imagination...
I admit in shame I have fallen victim to a SYT , I have lost a lot; my family, my friends, time and I thought I have found my soulmate only to find out it's all a BIG scam and she was going doing this with other men as well (most of them married in fact).
BE WARNED. I HAVE FALLEN VICTIM. TAKE MY LOST AS A LESSON.
I really hope someone will have the courage and energy to report this organization to the relevant authorities for the continuous misconduct.
This post has been edited by PFG: Aug 4 2013, 03:58 AM
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