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post Nov 12 2012, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(kahyeec @ Nov 12 2012, 06:55 PM)
I took my credit card off my google wallet account right i read the report that a tech writer was hacked because they want to access his twitter account . On iOS appstore my CC still on there. biggrin.gif
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Not only you a lot also not dare to put it there. Even my bro he bought lots of apps but each time after he bought he will remove it. But yesterday he tried to show me how to remove the cc but he can't find that anymore. Is it we can't remove cc anymore? Can enlighten me on this cos I really need to buy one of the apps.
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post Nov 12 2012, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(ramz @ Nov 12 2012, 07:35 PM)
i have used my credit card in my google wallet since june 2010. been paying for over 500rm of apps already. no problem. just lucky?
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Is Not the matter of lucky or not lucky. What matters is how many out there dare. Don't forget it only need 1 shot that's it you are in deep trouble. Unless you are rich even few cc fraud case you still don't mind. Do you?

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post Nov 12 2012, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ayamkucing @ Nov 12 2012, 09:58 PM)
What's also so great bout Note 2 is that you're being punished for being an early adopter. Now it's already in RM1.7k++ range. Lots of my friends do felt cheated by Samsung due to this.

Well, some do have to vent their anger by putting some nonsense polls on any thread here, that I fully understand. People loves doing this so that they can feel much better.


Added on November 12, 2012, 10:05 pm

Well, maybe the phone doesn't have any apps installed so that you don't know what to do.  rclxub.gif

Looks like you've tried an iPhone 5 from a wrong person to give you the impression.  sweat.gif
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The 1.7k you talking about is AP or original set? I just bought mine 2299 from Samsung with free screen protector.

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post Nov 14 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(lopaque @ Nov 14 2012, 04:30 PM)
one of lack of functionality in iOS device is not able to change os theme without jailbreak the device...
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Do you know changing your theme of OS will cause your phone lag? If you dont believe try it on jailbreak. Lag until you tak boleh tahan. Even now i started using android when i use those so call launcher it lag badly. Then end up i use back stock theme. So sometime you need to appreciate what Apple gave you. There is a reason why they dont wan to do this.
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post Nov 14 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Silenced @ Nov 14 2012, 06:26 PM)
Note 2 is better than iphone in every perspect,

smoothness/display/performance/nfc u name it.Only thing iphone 5 that is worth mentioning is it is a new iphone.
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1) Smoothness?? I wonder you ever own a apple device or just an android troller. Biggest joke ever. rclxub.gif

2) Display? The Galaxy Note 2 display offers a 265 PPI pixel density, which is lower than the iPhone 5′s 326 PPI.

3) Performance? Not sure about this haven't seen any benchmark test yet.

And let me add more for you

4) Security (Virus, Malware & ads)

5) 3rd party apps support. Seriously I realize 3rd party apps is still behind iOS. Maybe due to android buffet style. Developer need to test tons of device before roll out. So updating and supporting is really a tough job for them.

6) Books

7) Size? Up to you to debate. Some prefer smaller one hand and pocket size phone but weight is definitely lighter win.

8) Multi touch screen - IMO iPhone although the screen is smaller but it's more accurate than my note 2. This is my personal opinion as I always tap wrongly on my note 2.

9) Sync & backup

10) User friendly.

Want more? Let me get on iPhone 5 first cos I'm using Note 2 at the moment. I'm just comparing it with my ex iPhone 4 and readings...

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post Nov 15 2012, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(rafaismycat @ Nov 15 2012, 03:36 AM)
Eh bro, u sure? I currently using iphone 4s, wanted to change to note 2. But when i tested S3, i felt some laggyness during the transition during navigation, zoom in out, opening messages, call n ect. So i assume the same also happen in note 2. Can u prove i am wrong?

N also some comments here, the touch screen in note 2 is note accurate compared iphone what is ur comment on this since u said no different btw ios n android? Please share  sweat.gif
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In terms of spec Note 2 is higher than S3 if not mistaken so I presume note 2 is faster than S3. Note 2 + jelly bean the lag had become acceptable not so obvious I can say. You'll see the big difference when you pinch or rotate your screen.

I totally agree with the touch screen. If don't believe ask those now 2 user try to press lyn page number without zooming. I need to zoom in only able to get to this page 32 where else iphone FOUR although is small but I never zoom.


Added on November 15, 2012, 9:20 am
QUOTE(ramz @ Nov 15 2012, 05:39 AM)
They say nfc use for payments and stuff. But really for me it's all sales talk atm coz it is not yet mainstream.

For me personally I find it very useful though. Here are my usage:
1. As automation. When I enter car. Tap dock. Car mode on. Gps on. Waze on. After finish driving. Tap dock. Car mode off. Gps off. Waze off. I safe about 30 secs every drive coz no need to fiddle with phone.
2. I have a nfc tag on my ipad. When I want to tether from ipad to phone I tap phone on nfc tag. Automatic Tether auto on. Tap phone again on tag, tether off. So no need to fiddle on both gadgets. Just turn wifi on ipad and u good to go.

Nfc is part of my life now.

Wow nfc can do so many things. Let me Google and see. I thought it use like bump apps only.


Added on November 15, 2012, 9:32 amI have done my research but base in the video you need to buy a sticker like chips right? She did you get those stickers?



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post Nov 15 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(ramz @ Nov 15 2012, 09:49 AM)
I bought simple tear resistance nfc tags. 3 for 10 rm. I  don't live in kl so i order from post. If u live in kl easy to get those tags in common shops.
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Sorry if it's a bit out of topic. What kinda shop is selling? IT shop? What should I tell them? NFC sticker? I live in kl.
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Added on November 15, 2012, 12:00 pm
QUOTE(geforce88 @ Nov 15 2012, 10:34 AM)
3) 80% of iPhone users are buying the brand, not the device. of course naive fanboys wont agree with this, but fact is fact. common sense mah, why dont see other windows/bb/android users go queue up 3 days 3 nites just to get the device, and even without the need of reading reviews before getting one? its like: "wow, i am getting an apple faster than the rest, i am so freaking cool, even if i dont know how to search a freaking contact via my new device"  i pretty much salute this kind of ppl 
Ppl buying iphone without looking at the review is bcos they were a satisfied user base on previous device. The new iPhone that come with ios will only make thephone better. Don't tell me extra ram and processor will make the phone worst? Ppl are queuing outside Apple store is due to the store limitation. Unlike other device you can only buy iphone from Apple. Try ask Samsung to sell note 2 only at Samsung store and see what happen. This is for Apple to control price of device. Try go low yat and ask around. That shop giving you 2299? I give you 2200 come with screen protector. Sooner the price being drag down till 1.8k in result ppl like me will suffer big loss when selling the phone. Let me tell you a true story. I just bought a note 2 and planning to sell my two years old iphone FOUR. You know what deal I got? wtt S2 two mth device only. If I remember correctly iphone 4 and s2 were more or less the same time launching. And in result I sold my FOUR for 900. No joke.

I have to admit that note 2 is a good device but not in all aspects. Iphone does have his good and bad. Oh and about the manufacturing defects come on Bro don't tell me phone don't have. Apple produce millons of iphone and you expect them to have 0 defect? Do the math 1% of 1 million is how much. When other manufacture phone have defect nobody give a sh*t still pay it like God but when iphone make a 1% or lesser defect they start making a hu ha the like Apple not gonna change for them. I'm sure you know how sucks Malaysia Samsung looks like right? Try to claim warranty from Apple and you know how good they are. 1 to 1 exchange no joke.

The rest I'll let others to talk abt it otherwise my pist gonna be very very long. I'm sending from my Samsung note 2. Like I said before I'm a satisfied note 2 user but not a proud one. Apple have me that kinda feeling. This is personal preferences you don't beef to take it. Cheers. ..

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post Nov 15 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(precsmo @ Nov 15 2012, 11:51 AM)
I don't think that person you quoted an experienced smartphone user at all. Note 2 is all better than iPhone 5? No way an Android will feel faster or smoother or more responsive than IOSX especially with iPhone 5 CPU. Most users claim a device faster just purely highly influenced by the specs of their phone they are having, they feel it faster just because they have a phone with quad core processors? I've been with Windows phones, Android phones, IOSX devices since all these years, you just name it. No way an Android platform feels faster or more responsive than IOSX no matter what hardware a smartphone is using. Let face the truth.

Do not get me wrong, I'm not die hard fan with iPhone, Iphone 5 will be my 1st iPhone actually because of some factors previous iPhones don't convince me. But I don't agree any other smartphones in the market has the smoothness of i devices. Maybe some of the latest Windows 8 phones do, but definitely not in Android devices.
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That's why. Nowadays ppl especially those vine from Android look at the spec to determine the speed. Wah quad core, Wah 2gb ram must be very fast. But they don't know they are putting a 3k cc engine into a lorry and they thought they are faster than a myvi.
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post Nov 15 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(tanas @ Nov 15 2012, 12:49 PM)
Iphone also didn't see must better than other phones.
As you can see many peoples start change to use other phone.
But i can tell you Iphone is far behind others phone.
Do you think in future Iphone will using quad core Processor with 2gb ram ?
Or still in stay in dual core fron A6 processor until A9999xxx    with 1 gb ram ?
If Quad core not consider fast processor,why  all this processor
manufacturer keep going come out latest processor ?
Why Iphone change from A5 to A6 ?
You can feel Iphone is best smartphone because no other model of smartphone which
using same IOS to compare it.This is why you feel Iphone is the best.
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It simply meant for gaming and other productivity stuff. Doesn't related to the OS Smoothness. Use any ios device before?
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post Dec 18 2012, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(eudora88 @ Dec 17 2012, 07:43 AM)
Saw my friend using note 2, i would say it is huge! Lol but my friend overcome it by using Bluetooth while on phone, then she actually very satisfied with the big screen and the pencil.

While for me, I hv order iPhone 5, as all the while I m using apple product. I do think that apple product is more user friendly. Note 2 no doubt the function is good but it is too big, I need to phone where by it can fit easily to my pocket. So I go for iPhone 5.
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I like this words.... tongue.gif But should add a "S" in front... S Pencil to be more accurate....
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post Dec 18 2012, 09:41 AM

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Actually Samsung not bad if you have been for iOS so long. At least you try something new lor. Like I always tell my friend who is doubt buying ip5 or note 2. You pay around 2k for both phone but for ip5 you not gonna play it for too long as no new or fresh look where if you buy Note 2 at least you have a totally brand new OS to play around. But IMO play better not to play around for too long. Maybe 9mth duration or shorter cos if note 3 comes out there goes ur 2nd hand value become jump floor price. And you need to risk of stagnant OS as well. Note 2 is not Nexus, you not gonna get latest OS as soon as they launch. Now still ok cos jellybean is still the latest OS, later when google announce Maggi Mee, Banana boat or lollipop or whatever they gonna call then there goes bye bye old fashion dessert you being leftover by the green robot.


Added on December 18, 2012, 9:43 am
QUOTE(sang_kanchil @ Dec 18 2012, 08:46 AM)
android is a cursed OS.
easily pirated so app developers will never focus their creative energies into it.
so apps quality is always inferior.

widgets are overated. privacy issues aside, it doesn't display the latest info and usually u need to press to get updated info.
if like this, better press the apps icon to launch.


3rd party firmwares and custom roms are for geeks/nerds who has nothing else better to do.
always got bugs and stuff not working completely so need to constantly change.

sorhai indeed.
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This is not true actually. My youtube and foursquare widget is updating by itself. Not sure bout other widget.

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 18 2012, 09:36 AM)
The S-Pen is useless actually. More like marketing gimmick.

Yeah I like the size of the iPhone 5 but sometimes Apple needs to understand that the design has been the same for years. Its boring. Maybe iPhone 6 will be a revamped version and probably a new design will convince me to go back to iOS.


Added on December 18, 2012, 9:37 am

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Yeah actually i also dont know how many time i had pull out the pen before. Pull out oso show friend only. Airview? come on you dont need that stuff.


Added on December 18, 2012, 9:58 amThose days i used to hate iTunes but now I'm using Note 2 only i know how good is iTunes. Kies (Samsung iTunes) is totally sucks. The backup is not as perfect as iTunes.

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post Dec 18 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ramz @ Dec 18 2012, 10:15 AM)
i don't have the note 2, but i wonder how good the pen feature is. here is my requirement:

i always have problem jotting down a note while talking on the phone. what would happen is i would find the "notes" app and jot down while talking. the problem is
1. the note app takes time to access. first i have to press the home key, then the notes app. 2 steps which takes about 5 seconds. 5 secs is a long time when the info is already in your head.
While on the phone pull out the S-pen the S Note will pop up. Nothing need to be done.
2. the note app can't write so well coz of my big fingers. i write a few letters and it already fills the whole screen. i know can scroll and such, but i want to at least write a house address without the need of scrolling. Writing in the note app is meant for using S pen not ur finger IMO. Besides i think you can change the brush size or you can type it instead of sketch it.
3. btw, the note 2 automatically turn on loud speaker when u open the note? coz sometimes i go to the notes and realise i am not on loud speaker. so i have to go back to the phone app to turn it on. spoils the experience. Dont know havent try before

i wonder if note 2 solves the above prob.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 18 2012, 10:47 AM)
Do you even know what you are talking about?

I was talking about design not interface. Since when I said anything about iOS being dull and I like Android's interface?  Learn to read properly before you start talking please.


Added on December 18, 2012, 10:49 am

Airview? Hell I dont even use it. Lol.

Actually I love iTunes. Managed my music well, so organized. Now my music library looks messy and the songs are pretty much in a mess because Android dont have a proper music manager. And yes I agree even for backup, iTunes still the best.
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I feel wanna cried yesterday when I'm trying to restore my phone. All the save game, whatsapp mesg, setting etc all gone. iTunes really backup bulat bulat. You wont see the difference after restore....

Now i had join the Android and Note 2 clan. This is the only iPhone thread I'm still active.... cry.gif
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post Dec 18 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ramz @ Dec 18 2012, 11:10 AM)
yeah. that sucks. but actually got software that does that for u. titanium backup is the most popular. but nothing like built into the OS. but if i not mistaken not all is backed up by itunes. it depends on the app. some app don't "subscribe" to icloud don't get backed up too. is it true?
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Heard of titanium backup but it only for root phone.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Dec 18 2012, 12:07 PM)
Below are all my personal opinion

I like the screen size, i like their widgets - but too big for me for my daily pocket

I dont like the way android works when alerts come and it is inside the notification centre where all the notifications are grouped according to apps. For iOS, when a message comes, you activate the screen you will see the message and its content. In android you dont, you have to bring down the notification to see it. Take whatsapp for example, in iOS locked screen you can read all the messages without unlocking the phone. For android, you have to bring down the noti center, then tap on the Whatsapp (19 messages), only than it launches whatsapp for you. I work in mobile portal personalization and all these extra taps on the screen is tedious for mobile users. Lesser taps to get to where you want is the best design.

iPhone keyboard does not lag as much as android's. Yes you can say we can download custom keyboards (free and paid) from Playstore which might be able to provide you with better experience but iOS comes with a default free keyboard which i can type faster.

Android users might not like what i said but they have their own view on these matters.

so all in all, it depends on what you want to achieve with the OS.
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Hmm on your first part i think you need to activate the message preview from whatsapp. Same goes to other messaging apps. If you turn on the message preview then you will get what you want from iOS as above mention. On the 2nd part about the keyboard i agree with you. The predictive keyboard sucks. I always typo... doh.gif
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QUOTE(sang_kanchil @ Dec 21 2012, 08:57 AM)
iOS is the most advanced mobile OS in the world.
highly stable and secured.

the apps store has the best quality apps and seldom got threats.
even if got, highly talented apple engineers will close the security holes fast and hard.
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android is like wilderness.
unless u spend a lot of time keeping up to date with the latest mobile news, and updates...

u r like a chicken waiting to be eaten by wolves.
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Agree with the malware part. Anyway I see you replacing KuLi here. Wonder where he is.... tongue.gif


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