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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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SUS2890
post Apr 10 2013, 05:41 PM

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did some math.. apparently i have to use chantodo's wand if i don't wanna wear inna's pants. sighhh
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post Apr 10 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 10 2013, 06:43 PM)
That orb is a steal because of its APoC. Pair it with chantodo wand, you can equip Mempo.
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can't afford mempo with CC man. sad.gif
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post Apr 11 2013, 01:09 PM

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40k HP
530 AR
4.2k Armor

How do you guys deal with range attackers? I don't seem to be able to take much damage. Anything wrong?
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post Apr 11 2013, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 11 2013, 02:35 PM)
I think there is a wrong set up of passive skill.
Why conflagration? As you don't use fire damage skill.
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lol you are right.
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post Apr 11 2013, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Apr 11 2013, 01:21 PM)
u can try using prismatic armor instead of shocking aspects to buff ur armor n AR .. it definately help my wz in terms of survivability ... with my just average dps i dont gain much from shocking aspect
imo as a cm wiz u dont need LS from blood magic.. instead get more LoH cos WW proc LoH quite nicely to sustain ur health pool .. i hv meteor to deal with ranged mobs @ those annoying double/triple ground effect elites which i cant get close to w/out dying .. i personally use comet rune to get most from cold blooded but since u r using Conflagration passive, molten impact is the obvious choice.
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ok thanks.

oh btw, how much DPS should I have before I can use shocking aspect?

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post Apr 11 2013, 04:45 PM

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Too stressful man cm wiz.


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post Apr 11 2013, 06:14 PM

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i'm having problems with affixes such as electrified, plague. any tips?

i realize blackthrone is much better than inna's. yes? no?
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post Apr 11 2013, 08:48 PM

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Thanks! Really appreciate it.

p.s: i'm selling all my DH gears to fund my CM wiz. =D
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post Apr 12 2013, 07:15 AM

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9.35b gold to spend on my CM wiz. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Apr 12 2013, 08:29 AM

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is it possible to perma freeze elites? if yes, what's he APS needed? 2.73 cukup?
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post Apr 12 2013, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Apr 12 2013, 08:45 AM)
wahh 2890 no more DH? GG!! come and play US server la. more fun..  brows.gif  brows.gif
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hey!

yeah is sad to leave my beloved DH but i dont have motivation to continue anymore. Anyway, can't play on the US server because is tooooooo troublesome for me.

Well, if they merge the servers who knows. they keep saying is not possible but don't know why a big company like blizzard can't do it.

anyway, CM wiz rocks!!!
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post Apr 12 2013, 07:09 PM

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Hi Guys,

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/11450608

I got a few questions to ask.

1. How does Diamond Shard works? It says when it wears off it explodes right? so does that mean repeated casting it gives you the stackable damage?

2. I know Blizzard won't stack so meteor is a better build? I was trying blizzard build instead of DS and 510% over 6 seconds seems pretty crappy to me and if the duration is extended by my source, how does it work then?

3. Some elites can be perma freeze some can't. No idea why.
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 12 2013, 08:20 PM)
D Shard adds to ur Edps and doesnt show on Pdps eg Shocking aspect.
no it doesnt stack, u have to keep casting (DShard 1 cast = 1 hit, chain reaction stackable = 1 cast = 3 hit)

use Meteor instead of blizzard as it hits harder, but u cant spam much as it is costly unless u are hitting big mobs)

xtra fast Es can escape or use their skills as even a slight delay in freezing them is enough

telepothead Es oso can escape if there is a dlay in ur freezing

your ingame ping ms oso have effect on freezing efficiency (make sure its green bar not yellow/red)
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Okay.

I got few more questions.

Diamond Shards
- the tool tips says when the skin wears off, shards explodes in all direction right?
- so my question is: On first cast, before it wears off, if I get to cast again, does the second cast make the first cast wears off thus dealing damage? As in does the second cast trigger the shards of the first cast to explode before the time is up or 10853 damage is being absorbed?

Chain Reaction
- tool tip says have a 1.5sec delay before it goes off.
- so my question is: If I first cast Chain Reaction and before 1.5s is up (before first initial explosion), I get to second cast Chain Reaction again. Does this mean that the first cast won't be overwrote by the second cast?
- Does it work like a queue where by each cast is being lined up in and the smaller the gap between the first and second cast, the better the damage you get. Is my understanding correct here?

Thanks fellow CM Wiz!!!
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 12 2013, 10:29 PM)
DShard will xplode even b4 the time is up if u recast, if  u r hit by mobs after the 1st cast xplodes and before the 2nd cast then it will not absorb incoming dmg.

Chain reaction is highly stackable, the answer to ur Q is if u recast twice before the 1st xplodes it stacks like lining up in a queue. u can test this out by just using WW + EB only, without frost nova n DSkin to save up more AP to cast/test EB on white mobs especially big white mobs.

I do it too wen im lazy to freeze and thrash cant kill me so no DSkin either and repeated cast of EB makes it looks like a machine gun going off.
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Thanks for the swift reply!

Loving every minute of CM Wiz gameplay but fingers need some rest soon.
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post Apr 13 2013, 10:09 PM

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I WANT A ZUNIMASSA'S POX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 13 2013, 10:52 PM)
trifec or bifec?

anyways, if u change ur amy to a trifec amy u can easily breach 200k dps
cm wiz with 200k dps or above is godlike brows.gif
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Trifecta!!!! But is hard to hunt a 8/9As one.

Yeah wanna replace amulet n gloves but both have tons of eHP with it. Was hoping the 3p Zuni bonus AR can remove AR on gloves or amulet.

How u guys cover EhP lost if wanna increase DPS?

Damn hard to gear the wiz. I want gloom with wiz.
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post Apr 14 2013, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 14 2013, 12:13 AM)
haha i oso dont have trifec leg rings. true playing cm wiz is very hard to gear cos alot of micro managing
damn  high speed + cc is mandatory.

well, myself is using poormans gear so i rely alot on LOH + try to anticipate what would happen eg frozen + vortex + plague Es (hence Telepot is essential, as we cant always rely on move speed to get out of trouble and to jump in to freeze b4 the E can use their skill)

I will always try to freeze Es as tighly packed  & as fast as i can cos i dun want those Es to use their skills (especially: frozen), but plague/motlen/ arcane is ok cos LOH can fill my hp globe but i get disrupted wen there r someone in the party with knockback skill.
most cm wiz cant afford so just have to put up with watever gear they have + much lower ehp than u.
I ony have 600+ AR, im sure by know u have more AR than me.

Ur gear is already damn impressive as u have high hp + high dps + high armor even without energy armor) but ur amy should be the easiest to upgrade as it can give u additional CD (80% >) brows.gif  (crafting 1 would be gud if u are not in a hurry  brows.gif )
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how much LOH is recommended? I have 700 but it feels slow or maybe i'm doing it wrongly.

I hate frozen too and my LOH don't seem to be able to sustain me standing in plague or desecrator.

I wanted to gear like moba initially where you ditch EHP and go 3.01 APS but then i didn't cuz learn inna pants looks ugly, better not cuz i'm basically standing in their face and zuni armor and boots on wiz looks so cool.

Yeah is a love hate rship with monks. Love them for their mantra hate them for FoT knocback.

Amulet? very hard la. take my time and thanks for your advice!

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post Apr 14 2013, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 14 2013, 01:24 AM)
im using inna pants, yea damn ugly but i use vanish potion so i can see her smexy thighs.  brows.gif

700LOH is adequate, any higher is a bonus. u can pop some ET on far away white mobs to gain additional LOH unless u r toking bout single target.
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Thanks!

One question on breakpoints.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...R2bkN4SkE#gid=0

It says 2.73 gives 36 ticks on WW so if i have 2.82, i understand it makes no difference in number of ticks. what about other aspect such as freezing potential? casting animations?
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post Apr 14 2013, 03:42 AM

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Finally my Wiz finish Act 4 inferno =D
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post Apr 14 2013, 07:31 PM

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Gave up on Zuni Pox. Wasn't willing to pay 1b for 6AS even though is trifecta.

Anyway... ARCHON play style very relax =D

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/swsw-2890/hero/11450608

Temporal Flux ok? I see a lot people use scramble. Anyway using Ice Armor?

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