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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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olman
post Apr 12 2013, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 12 2013, 10:29 AM)
wah...mad DPS.
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 12 2013, 08:20 PM)
D Shard adds to ur Edps and doesnt show on Pdps eg Shocking aspect.
no it doesnt stack, u have to keep casting (DShard 1 cast = 1 hit, chain reaction stackable = 1 cast = 3 hit)

use Meteor instead of blizzard as it hits harder, but u cant spam much as it is costly unless u are hitting big mobs)

xtra fast Es can escape or use their skills as even a slight delay in freezing them is enough

telepothead Es oso can escape if there is a dlay in ur freezing

your ingame ping ms oso have effect on freezing efficiency (make sure its green bar not yellow/red)
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Okay.

I got few more questions.

Diamond Shards
- the tool tips says when the skin wears off, shards explodes in all direction right?
- so my question is: On first cast, before it wears off, if I get to cast again, does the second cast make the first cast wears off thus dealing damage? As in does the second cast trigger the shards of the first cast to explode before the time is up or 10853 damage is being absorbed?

Chain Reaction
- tool tip says have a 1.5sec delay before it goes off.
- so my question is: If I first cast Chain Reaction and before 1.5s is up (before first initial explosion), I get to second cast Chain Reaction again. Does this mean that the first cast won't be overwrote by the second cast?
- Does it work like a queue where by each cast is being lined up in and the smaller the gap between the first and second cast, the better the damage you get. Is my understanding correct here?

Thanks fellow CM Wiz!!!
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 12 2013, 10:17 PM)
Okay.

I got few more questions.

Diamond Shards
- the tool tips says when the skin wears off, shards explodes in all direction right?
- so my question is: On first cast, before it wears off, if I get to cast again, does the second cast make the first cast wears off thus dealing damage? As in does the second cast trigger the shards of the first cast to explode before the time is up or 10853 damage is being absorbed?

Chain Reaction
- tool tip says have a 1.5sec delay before it goes off.
- so my question is: If I first cast Chain Reaction and before 1.5s is up (before first initial explosion), I get to second cast Chain Reaction again. Does this mean that the first cast won't be overwrote by the second cast?
- Does it work like a queue where by each cast is being lined up in and the smaller the gap between the first and second cast, the better the damage you get. Is my understanding correct here?

Thanks fellow CM Wiz!!!
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DShard will xplode even b4 the time is up if u recast, if u r hit by mobs after the 1st cast xplodes and before the 2nd cast then it will not absorb incoming dmg.

Chain reaction is highly stackable, the answer to ur Q is if u recast twice before the 1st xplodes it stacks like lining up in a queue. u can test this out by just using WW + EB only, without frost nova n DSkin to save up more AP to cast/test EB on white mobs especially big white mobs.

I do it too wen im lazy to freeze and thrash cant kill me so no DSkin either and repeated cast of EB makes it looks like a machine gun going off.
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 12 2013, 10:29 PM)
DShard will xplode even b4 the time is up if u recast, if  u r hit by mobs after the 1st cast xplodes and before the 2nd cast then it will not absorb incoming dmg.

Chain reaction is highly stackable, the answer to ur Q is if u recast twice before the 1st xplodes it stacks like lining up in a queue. u can test this out by just using WW + EB only, without frost nova n DSkin to save up more AP to cast/test EB on white mobs especially big white mobs.

I do it too wen im lazy to freeze and thrash cant kill me so no DSkin either and repeated cast of EB makes it looks like a machine gun going off.
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Thanks for the swift reply!

Loving every minute of CM Wiz gameplay but fingers need some rest soon.
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post Apr 13 2013, 12:21 AM

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Tried my cm wiz with moba.. Seriously... Jari jemari lemah longlai..hahahah
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:34 AM

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Bought a gear for leveling male wizard, AH makan it. Lucky only 150K.

Niama betul.
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post Apr 13 2013, 10:05 PM

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After play cmwiz.. I can say that wiz are OP next to barb.. whistling.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2013, 10:09 PM

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I WANT A ZUNIMASSA'S POX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Apr 13 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 13 2013, 10:09 PM)
I WANT A ZUNIMASSA'S POX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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trifec or bifec?

anyways, if u change ur amy to a trifec amy u can easily breach 200k dps
cm wiz with 200k dps or above is godlike brows.gif
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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 13 2013, 10:52 PM)
trifec or bifec?

anyways, if u change ur amy to a trifec amy u can easily breach 200k dps
cm wiz with 200k dps or above is godlike brows.gif
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Trifecta!!!! But is hard to hunt a 8/9As one.

Yeah wanna replace amulet n gloves but both have tons of eHP with it. Was hoping the 3p Zuni bonus AR can remove AR on gloves or amulet.

How u guys cover EhP lost if wanna increase DPS?

Damn hard to gear the wiz. I want gloom with wiz.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 13 2013, 11:05 PM)
Trifecta!!!! But is hard to hunt a 8/9As one.

Yeah wanna replace amulet n gloves but both have tons of eHP with it. Was hoping the 3p Zuni bonus AR can remove AR on gloves or amulet.

How u guys cover EhP lost if wanna increase DPS?

Damn hard to gear the wiz. I want gloom with wiz.
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haha i oso dont have trifec leg rings. true playing cm wiz is very hard to gear cos alot of micro managing
damn high speed + cc is mandatory.

well, myself is using poormans gear so i rely alot on LOH + try to anticipate what would happen eg frozen + vortex + plague Es (hence Telepot is essential, as we cant always rely on move speed to get out of trouble and to jump in to freeze b4 the E can use their skill)

I will always try to freeze Es as tighly packed & as fast as i can cos i dun want those Es to use their skills (especially: frozen), but plague/motlen/ arcane is ok cos LOH can fill my hp globe but i get disrupted wen there r someone in the party with knockback skill.


most cm wiz cant afford so just have to put up with watever gear they have + much lower ehp than u.
I ony have 600+ AR, im sure by know u have more AR than me.

Ur gear is already damn impressive as u have high hp + high dps + high armor even without energy armor) but ur amy should be the easiest to upgrade as it can give u additional CD (80% >) brows.gif (crafting 1 would be gud if u are not in a hurry brows.gif )

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post Apr 14 2013, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 14 2013, 12:13 AM)
haha i oso dont have trifec leg rings. true playing cm wiz is very hard to gear cos alot of micro managing
damn  high speed + cc is mandatory.

well, myself is using poormans gear so i rely alot on LOH + try to anticipate what would happen eg frozen + vortex + plague Es (hence Telepot is essential, as we cant always rely on move speed to get out of trouble and to jump in to freeze b4 the E can use their skill)

I will always try to freeze Es as tighly packed  & as fast as i can cos i dun want those Es to use their skills (especially: frozen), but plague/motlen/ arcane is ok cos LOH can fill my hp globe but i get disrupted wen there r someone in the party with knockback skill.
most cm wiz cant afford so just have to put up with watever gear they have + much lower ehp than u.
I ony have 600+ AR, im sure by know u have more AR than me.

Ur gear is already damn impressive as u have high hp + high dps + high armor even without energy armor) but ur amy should be the easiest to upgrade as it can give u additional CD (80% >) brows.gif  (crafting 1 would be gud if u are not in a hurry  brows.gif )
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how much LOH is recommended? I have 700 but it feels slow or maybe i'm doing it wrongly.

I hate frozen too and my LOH don't seem to be able to sustain me standing in plague or desecrator.

I wanted to gear like moba initially where you ditch EHP and go 3.01 APS but then i didn't cuz learn inna pants looks ugly, better not cuz i'm basically standing in their face and zuni armor and boots on wiz looks so cool.

Yeah is a love hate rship with monks. Love them for their mantra hate them for FoT knocback.

Amulet? very hard la. take my time and thanks for your advice!

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 14 2013, 01:15 AM)
how much LOH is recommended? I have 700 but it feels slow or maybe i'm doing it wrongly.

I hate frozen too and my LOH don't seem to be able to sustain me standing in plague or desecrator.

I wanted to gear like moba initially where you ditch EHP and go 3.01 APS but then i didn't cuz learn inna pants looks ugly, better not cuz i'm basically standing in their face and zuni armor and boots on wiz looks so cool.

Yeah is a love hate rship with monks. Love them for their mantra hate them for FoT knocback.

Amulet? very hard la. take my time and thanks for your advice!
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im using inna pants, yea damn ugly but i use vanish potion so i can see her smexy thighs. brows.gif

700LOH is adequate, any higher is a bonus. u can pop some ET on far away white mobs to gain additional LOH unless u r toking bout single target.
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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 14 2013, 01:24 AM)
im using inna pants, yea damn ugly but i use vanish potion so i can see her smexy thighs.  brows.gif

700LOH is adequate, any higher is a bonus. u can pop some ET on far away white mobs to gain additional LOH unless u r toking bout single target.
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Thanks!

One question on breakpoints.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...R2bkN4SkE#gid=0

It says 2.73 gives 36 ticks on WW so if i have 2.82, i understand it makes no difference in number of ticks. what about other aspect such as freezing potential? casting animations?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 14 2013, 01:29 AM)
Thanks!

One question on breakpoints.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...R2bkN4SkE#gid=0

It says 2.73 gives 36 ticks on WW so if i have 2.82, i understand it makes no difference in number of ticks. what about other aspect such as freezing potential? casting animations?
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WW tick breakpoints ppl tok so much about is about efficiency in proc'ing CM for cd reduction on frost nova/eb/dskin/telepot/meteor/archon all skills basically, the quicker CM reduces skill cds the faster u can use them.

there is no difference in casting dskin, eb, frostnova if thats wat u r toking bout.
dont forget CC, speed and CC goes hand in hand to proc CM

WW is ur main ticker, 2ndary ticker is chain reaction (get them in range to get more CM procs), any attacking skill like shocking/dshard/living litening oso can proc CM

i do see chain reaction boom 3x faster with additional speed but not sure if wat the breakpoint is for chain reaction.

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post Apr 14 2013, 03:42 AM

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Finally my Wiz finish Act 4 inferno =D
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post Apr 14 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 14 2013, 03:42 AM)
Finally my Wiz finish Act 4 inferno =D
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gratz mang, time to para up brows.gif
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post Apr 14 2013, 07:31 PM

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Gave up on Zuni Pox. Wasn't willing to pay 1b for 6AS even though is trifecta.

Anyway... ARCHON play style very relax =D

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/swsw-2890/hero/11450608

Temporal Flux ok? I see a lot people use scramble. Anyway using Ice Armor?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 14 2013, 07:31 PM)
Gave up on Zuni Pox. Wasn't willing to pay 1b for 6AS even though is trifecta.

Anyway... ARCHON play style very relax =D

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/swsw-2890/hero/11450608

Temporal Flux ok? I see a lot people use scramble. Anyway using Ice Armor?
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archon is mainly used for para lvling. which is wat i used to para 100

if u wana play mp10 u nid to atleast double ur current dps, higher is better.
kill b4 mobs get to u, 1/2 shot everythjing few shots Es, scramble is to make u move faster whenever u get hit to pile up monster kill for bonus xp also to upkeep archon timer.

archon dont nid speed, ony cd + cc (easier to gear) but if u want mp10 capable it will get xpensive.

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post Apr 14 2013, 11:17 PM

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Would like to share a few things with the Wiz community here though many of you are at PL 100 already. Maybe they are some new players like me.

Here's a few link that might help.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...R2bkN4SkE#gid=0

http://www.d3rawr.com/c

First link is a CM wiz attack speed calculator and second link works for every class. Is basically calculating your weapon damage while using M ruby and M emerald. Hope it helps!

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