Thanks for the input from both of you. I believe there are pro and con for SEG. I would like to stay with bukit indah area as I hate the traffics at First Link. Are you 2 travels or stay in Singapore?
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Thanks for the input from both of you. I believe there are pro and con for SEG. I would like to stay with bukit indah area as I hate the traffics at First Link. Are you 2 travels or stay in Singapore?
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Oct 5 2012, 04:11 PM
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me staying at Pioneer now, renting a room @ $600/month. Frankly I have growing hatred with smell of armpit and sweat in buses/ MRTs... that's why decided to move back to MY and stay there.
Singapore to me, will be just a workplace. Nothing more. |
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Oct 5 2012, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Oct 5 2012, 04:11 PM) me staying at Pioneer now, renting a room @ $600/month. Frankly I have growing hatred with smell of armpit and sweat in buses/ MRTs... that's why decided to move back to MY and stay there. Hi, same for me, I have been studying and working at KL for some times, I just move to Singapore for around half years, but I'm growing tired staying in Singapore, that's why I rather purchase an subsale apartment to move out first. I like Malaysia living environment, not so organised and with some Kampung feeling. Singapore is way too organised and everyone staying inside is like a working machine.Singapore to me, will be just a workplace. Nothing more. |
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Oct 5 2012, 05:13 PM
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good for you, I have been here for almost 4 years! Singapore 4 years ago is nothing like what it is today... MRT breakdown, bangla/chinese/philipino around us, cost of living going up...
it is odd for you to consider getting a new house so fast... just 6 months after moving into Singapore. Have you considered what if you decided to move back to KL if you find that Singapore is really not suitable for you? |
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Oct 6 2012, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Oct 5 2012, 05:13 PM) good for you, I have been here for almost 4 years! Singapore 4 years ago is nothing like what it is today... MRT breakdown, bangla/chinese/philipino around us, cost of living going up... Hi,my hometown is at kluang,so is actually quite near for me to go b to klg from jb rather than kl. My intension of working at sg is i wan to stay nearer to my family.it is odd for you to consider getting a new house so fast... just 6 months after moving into Singapore. Have you considered what if you decided to move back to KL if you find that Singapore is really not suitable for you? |
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Oct 6 2012, 08:56 PM
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Guys, imho, I think you have made the right move by earning the strong SGD and then spending it in Nusajaya and Johor by making your money go further. Property in SG is just too exp now and boh hua.
I assume you guys are still young and can tahan so this is the correct attitude and way to go. Make hay while the sun shines and you can consider retiring back in Malaysia next time when you grow old. Nusajaya is very near SG making it feasible to retire there next time if you want to remain near SG. Best of both worlds! |
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Oct 9 2012, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Kokwm @ Oct 6 2012, 08:56 PM) Guys, imho, I think you have made the right move by earning the strong SGD and then spending it in Nusajaya and Johor by making your money go further. Property in SG is just too exp now and boh hua. However, in my age to purchase such expensive property seems quite a burden to me. However, I still believe that I would rather spend the money for my own house rather than help the others to pay for their housing installment.I assume you guys are still young and can tahan so this is the correct attitude and way to go. Make hay while the sun shines and you can consider retiring back in Malaysia next time when you grow old. Nusajaya is very near SG making it feasible to retire there next time if you want to remain near SG. Best of both worlds! Added on October 9, 2012, 11:52 amHi guys, not sure whether you had read this information before, there is a bus terminal quite near to eco garden, not sure will this boost up the value around that area, please share your comment here. Sorry about the news is in chinese version. undefined This post has been edited by hoks: Oct 9 2012, 11:54 AM |
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hi
mind to share where exactly is the hi tension power lines? better if you can draw it overlaying the SEG master plan picture.. i m interested in subsale but not really know the location of the cables may end up buying 1 that is too near to the cables... thanks QUOTE(hoks @ Oct 4 2012, 12:34 PM) Hi guys, there is a new launch of Double storey house at Setia Eco Village at Setia Eco Garden. I'm take it as an investment purpose. I'm seriously looking at this development and would like to seek for comment from all the Tai kor tai jie here. Basically what I think of the advantages are: 1. Its greenery concept, there is not much area at Johor with such concept. My first impression is the area is targeted for Singaporean as the selling price of Eco Village is rather high. 2. Easy access to Singapore by using own transport, since I'm working at Singapore Jurong area, I can reach my working place within 30 Mins drive. 3. Easy access to industrial area (SILC, NCIP), Educity, Medical City, Setia Buisness Park. 4. There is international school and a chinese primary school in Eco Garden itself. However, I do identify some of the disadvantages here: 1. The location is at the outskirt of Johor, nearest mature township at Bukit Indah, however, it will takes around 15-20 mins drive to the area. 2. The township is immature, the shoplot in the district is still not operative, it will takes me 10-20 mins to look for food around gelang patah or bukit indah area. 3. The industrial area, educity and setia buisness park success is still a myth, I do not know the potential of it at this rural area. 4. There is a voltage converter near the road going into the Eco Garden and there is high voltage cable nearby the housing area. Here is the website of Eco Village http://www.setiaecogardens.com.my/property...sp#.UG0QypjqnBA Hope tai kor tai jie here can show me some light, thanks! |
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QUOTE(takashinzy @ Dec 16 2012, 12:24 PM) hi Just a rough estimate, the power lines in black. I strongly advise you make a trip there to have a visual on the power line's exact location.mind to share where exactly is the hi tension power lines? better if you can draw it overlaying the SEG master plan picture.. i m interested in subsale but not really know the location of the cables may end up buying 1 that is too near to the cables... thanks ![]() |
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Dec 17 2012, 12:58 PM
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Dec 17 2012, 01:26 PM
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avatha 2 and the upcoming (which is those rows behind radena) looked quite near to the black line at the boundary doesn't it?
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QUOTE(takashinzy @ Dec 17 2012, 01:26 PM) avatha 2 and the upcoming (which is those rows behind radena) looked quite near to the black line at the boundary doesn't it? nearest to the power lines is Elvira, then Avathar 1. The row behind Radena is Avathar 2. Heard from my SA that Phase 2 of Setia Eco Village will launch in early next year, with Cadena (22x70) facing Radena and the rest Pandora 1 and Pandora 2 (20x70).Avatha 2 so fast got sub-sale d? |
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Oct 4 2012, 01:38 PM) Hi there, may i know how much u bought the unit after discount?I booked a unit (Radena) 2 months back, heard that the official launch will be early Nov. My take: 1. Not many new projects near 2nd link is below my budget of RM600k. I considered Nusa Sentral but the pending issues of G&G, shoddy workmanship, and a lot of negative remarks on local forums put me off. 2. SEG's new projects are under DIBS scheme, not bad I can save up for my renovation 3 years from now. Spare me from tight cash flow. 3. Both me and my fiancee are working in Singapore (Commonwealth area). My fiancee love SEG a lot... typical Singaporean girl, to them it is dream come true when it comes to landed property. 4. I do not mind the secluded and isolated area... usually I do my groceries once a week. 5. All shoplots outside of SEG sales office are fully sold, I'm sure business will pickup soon as Casea Garden's buyers are getting their keys end of the year. 6. Yes high voltage cables are nuisance... that's why I picked Radena. My main intention is for own-stay. Rental rate at SEG is currently RM600-1000, personally I don't think SEG is worth the investment as my monthly installment is close to RM2400 based on 40yr loan. SEG will remain as it is if Iskandar project fails to take off... Having lived and worked in Singapore for almost 4 years, seriously I am tired with the overloaded population in Singapore. All I want when I knock off from work, is a nice place to rest without bangla, philipino, chinese surrounding me. what discount package setia gives u? thanks. |
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 5 2013, 10:59 PM) Price is RM521k after discount, for a Radena intermediate lot (22x70", build up 1950sqft). Package includes all legal fees (both developer and buyer except for MOT in which buyer needs to pay), and 10% discount for early birds. I booked mine before Setia Eco Village was launched so I manage to get the lowest price... Heard the price for Radena is RM580k after discount now. By the way the diagram of the high tension cables is wrong, the wires make a 90 degrees turn right in front of SEV, it does not split into 2 thus no high tension cables in SEV itself. |
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Oct 5 2012, 09:31 AM) I suggest you check online on the rental rate for SEG first. Personally I find the location not that great to attract tenants. SEG is quite far away from the nearest town, and a bit distanced from Singapore too. Actually Horizon Hills is not really dead, in fact the rental is high. for a typical intermediate terrace house also can easily draw rm2k and above rental per month...i think the environment and safety indeed attracts a lot of foreigners including singaporean.If you look at Horizon Hills, that place looks like a dead estate as most people buy there as weekend house, or they are still wondering what to do with the house. According to Setia, 50% buyers of SEV are foreigners so most likely SEV will end up as a quiet estate as Horizon Hills. Good for own stay (G&G, safe and secluded) but unlikely it is going to attract tenants. Yes you need around RM3k per month... A little costly but consider that SEV is one of the cheaper estates around 2nd link it is hard pressed to find cheaper ones unless you go further up like Austin. Actually the last batch of Bukit Indah double storey terrace is selling at rm4xxk close to rm500k Feb last year (2012) which is considered quite affordable compare to price now... but all had been sold out including bumi lots.... BI is not bad choice as well because the location of Bukit Indah is as good as Horizon Hill - equal distance to both 1st link and 2nd link. Good for malaysian working in SG, so rental is not a issue especially BI has direct bus of CW3 and CW6 to both Jurong East and Boon Lay MRT station. Added on January 5, 2013, 11:43 pm QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jan 5 2013, 11:12 PM) Price is RM521k after discount, for a Radena intermediate lot (22x70", build up 1950sqft). Package includes all legal fees (both developer and buyer except for MOT in which buyer needs to pay), and 10% discount for early birds. I booked mine before Setia Eco Village was launched so I manage to get the lowest price... Heard the price for Radena is RM580k after discount now. By the way the diagram of the high tension cables is wrong, the wires make a 90 degrees turn right in front of SEV, it does not split into 2 thus no high tension cables in SEV itself. RM580 vs RM521k? wow you have made a gain for less than months time... congrates... MOT is not included? I see... how much is the MOT? Added on January 5, 2013, 11:50 pm QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Oct 5 2012, 01:02 PM) I visited a friend who stays in SEG for 1 year already... Occupancy around 80% most of them work in Singapore. may i know how much is the monthly maintenance fee for SEV? the SEV concept is quite similar to setia eco cascadia except there is no club house.I guess SEV occupancy rate should be the same but more foreigners due to the selling price > RM500k. SEV new launches are all strata title units, foreigners much prefer the estate to be consistent in design and exterior. The current SEG units are all individual titles. I guess SEV should fetch higher resale price in future... This post has been edited by westlife: Jan 5 2013, 11:50 PM |
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I been to BI, yes it is developed but I don't really like to stay in congested area... Especially my fiancée she prefers secluded and quiet area which she felt is safer. Furthermore we prefer the landscaping and the back-alley garden concept. SEV is just 15 mins drive to 2nd link customs, smooth ride without any jam.
This is my first house and it will be for own stay. Public transport wise there is a CW bus from Gelang Patah to SG as well. For own stay I think what is most important is to get a house that we are most comfortable with. Added on January 6, 2013, 12:20 amHaha what is there to gain? The RM60k is just paper value, still depends if there is any takers for the commanded price. Anyway I don't have intention to sell yet for the time being. Heard from the sales assistants that SEV phase one all fully booked even before launched, and all fully sold after launch. Phase 2 of SEV will launch in Q1 this year, price for 22x70" (Cadena) will be from RM600k. I got a feeling SEV phase 2 will sell like hot cakes as they are further away from the high tension cables compared to phase 1. Imagine looking out of my window staring at the new units opposite of the road... Same size but almost RM100k more than my unit! MOT is calculated from the price indicated in SPA. If I am not mistaken should be RM6-8k. The developer has not finalized on the maintenance fee yet, but we were told that it should be RM200-300 for Radena due to Strata title and higher maintenance cost on the gardens. There is a clubhouse as per Setia Eco Garden's master plan but that will be in another phase consist of bungalows, semi-Ds, cluster homes etc. not launched though. This post has been edited by yrh0413: Jan 6 2013, 12:20 AM |
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jan 6 2013, 12:03 AM) I been to BI, yes it is developed but I don't really like to stay in congested area... Especially my fiancée she prefers secluded and quiet area which she felt is safer. Furthermore we prefer the landscaping and the back-alley garden concept. SEV is just 15 mins drive to 2nd link customs, smooth ride without any jam. I see i see... indeed not bad, i also did go to SEG sales office few months back. I was shocked to hear that the SEV units all sold out within few months time. Indeed SEG house also in high demand....This is my first house and it will be for own stay. Public transport wise there is a CW bus from Gelang Patah to SG as well. For own stay I think what is most important is to get a house that we are most comfortable with. Added on January 6, 2013, 12:20 amHaha what is there to gain? The RM60k is just paper value, still depends if there is any takers for the commanded price. Anyway I don't have intention to sell yet for the time being. Heard from the sales assistants that SEV phase one all fully booked even before launched, and all fully sold after launch. Phase 2 of SEV will launch in Q1 this year, price for 22x70" (Cadena) will be from RM600k. I got a feeling SEV phase 2 will sell like hot cakes as they are further away from the high tension cables compared to phase 1. Imagine looking out of my window staring at the new units opposite of the road... Same size but almost RM100k more than my unit! MOT is calculated from the price indicated in SPA. If I am not mistaken should be RM6-8k. The developer has not finalized on the maintenance fee yet, but we were told that it should be RM200-300 for Radena due to Strata title and higher maintenance cost on the gardens. There is a clubhouse as per Setia Eco Garden's master plan but that will be in another phase consist of bungalows, semi-Ds, cluster homes etc. not launched though. The concept is indeed good as well. Yup, i also agree nusajaya area because of the better road design/highways, less jam as compare to tebrau area definitely. This post has been edited by westlife: Jan 6 2013, 10:34 AM |
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Me and my fiancée plan to commute daily to work, either via the CW buses or purchase a SG car when the COE is lower. I have consulted a few friends who stay near the Causeway and all of them advise me to get a property closer to 2nd link to avoid traffic jam. That is why I never considered SEC, Setia Tropika etc.
I did considered other projects like Nusa Central, Nusa Bayu, Nusa Idaman etc but somehow I felt more comfortable with SEG because it has a proven track record in terms of security and planning. SP Setia is more experienced and their name worth a lot. By the way traffic at 2nd link is increasing day by day due to more and more housing projects being VP (I know Nusa Central Phase 1 is one of them). Who knows 3 years later the traffic at 2nd link will be similar to Causeway? I wonder if you are looking for your next property purchase? How's your unit at SEC? Already VP? |
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Feb 23 2013, 01:38 AM
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Hi Hoks, i am also looking to buy Setia Eco Gardens and I have the exact same reason with you (on pros and cons). I simply love the flora and fauna design, and it is an exclusive township with award winning concept. However, I am worried that there will not be appreciation in property value as this location is quite far from the city.
May I know what have you found so far? and your advice? |
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