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TSwakeboarder
post Oct 3 2012, 01:42 PM, updated 8y ago

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Just decided to try my luck here. See if there are members here who share the same passion as me. This thread is to share any tips , lobang , off road tracks or even photos of your truck. Maybe with enough members here, we can organize TT or some off road adventure.
I will start with mine first.

1. Defender 110. Year 1997. Black in color. Fully done up except for the winch system( looking for "warn") own it for a year plus.

Love the attention when travelling in kL.Hehehe. Very sturdy engine . Only turn off is the diesel rumbling engine.Been to alot of places with her. Up to Thailand and down to Singapore. Only problem is the lack of specialize workshop here in KL .

Anyone else here? Even if you don't have owned one but a big fan of the defender , feel free to join this thread.

Cheers
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post Oct 3 2012, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(man_hakim87 @ Oct 3 2012, 08:52 PM)
Yeay a defender thread! Even though i don't have one but in the future maybe. Its a very nice 4x4 for a restoration project. Been looking for 4 door defender. Kinda hard to come by.
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I have a few for you if keen. I ve got friends selling their. Do pm me if you keen .

Thanks
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post Oct 3 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(man_hakim87 @ Oct 3 2012, 09:04 PM)
Haha.. Not now bro. Still on a planning phase. Saw a few these baby in mudah.my. I think a barely running unit is around 20k. Hows the FC for diesel engine?
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Diesel consumption for the 300TDI is quite good I must say. Almost a 60L tank can get me up to 700km.

Humm... 20k is not a bad price but bear in mind of the building up cost. Make sure the engine doesn't have sign of leakage. The chassis got any sign of damage. The under carriage is Rust-free. O yeah. Thing to check most important is the gear box , shaft and clutch. Labour for it don't come cheap.

Btw, I know of a shop that is selling the new puma defender( ford engine)
They are selling the exact same specs of the army. Brand new truck . With high rise roof, roof rack , spot lights, folding laptop table , convoy lights and much more. Was told these are the same batch use in the Malaysia army. You can choose your body color. Black in color look so "mission impossible " you can register it for civilian use. Less than rm200 000.

I will try to upload the pictures. You will drool.
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post Oct 3 2012, 11:05 PM

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Drove up to Kota baru.

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Check out the sea...priceless

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post Oct 3 2012, 11:10 PM

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Another beauty.

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post Oct 3 2012, 11:49 PM

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My first major overhaul due to conrod failure .

The Conrod broke into 2 pieces. Causing major damage to the piston and block. Conclusion, heat fatigue and maybe wear and tear stress from long distance driving.( I think there was already cracks at the conrod thus, it gave way suddenly)

This happen on my way back from hat yai Thailand. Check out the damage of the 300TDI engine.

First sign of the bad news. This happen around 11pm and the highway was dark and eerie .
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As you can see, engine oil spilled. Not a good sign.
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The damage of the piston.
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And now. Brace yourself. The Hole......

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On both side of the block. You can actually see through.
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Total damage.
More than rm10 000. Most expensive trip to Thailand.

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post Oct 4 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(chteo @ Oct 4 2012, 01:54 PM)
am a fan of the defender, but looking for the 2 door type.

building up funds to get one for restoration as well...
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Excellent choice . 2 doors aka pick-up truck. Lots of them in Cameron highland . Try to source from there. You may get a very good price.

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post Oct 5 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(chteo @ Oct 4 2012, 10:16 PM)
good idea, fund (purchase + restoration) should be ready in 2 year's time....
makky, while buying new is nice, but seriously i cannot afford a new card...and personally, i like to dabble around things together with my mechanic friend..that's where the fun is when you get to know your better!
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+1.

I hear you bro. Yes , it's a pretty fun journey once you start to beautify your defender. There are tonnes of accessories hardware.

I am on that journey now.


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QUOTE(makky @ Oct 4 2012, 10:01 PM)
Got new one from Ford still in reproduction la... u all can ask Ford about this. For 4 door, the price around 150k...
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That I believe it's the new Puma Defender series. I love the new interior . The price sound just about right. The station wagon (10 seaters) cost around 225k..

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post Oct 5 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Oct 5 2012, 12:05 PM)
Just test drove the double cab the other day at range rover Federal Highway. After much thought decided to go wth the collorado..more practical as the cabin behind of the defender is small!!
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Totally agree. Pretty small leg room for your passangers hence I chose the station wagon version.

But how did you find the new interior cabin? Lovely? Or just plain looking?
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post Oct 5 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Oct 5 2012, 02:44 PM)
The interior was fine. Nothing much to brag about, then again, its the defender series..not the rover or evoque..
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I hear you bro. The 2 models you mentioned would be my next target. Hehehe
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post Oct 7 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(stratoponga @ Oct 7 2012, 06:44 PM)
Hey man!

I'm about to dump in some funds to begin a lifelong journey of owning a Defender. Getting a 110 300TDI. Hopefully it'll all work out.

Initial price is very low (for 300TDI) but it'll probably cost about 12k to fix it up (not including interior yet). Its a project car, so it'll improve bit by bit (hopefully).

May I know where you send for service, and how you got yours? Mine is a 1997 model, ex-TNB. Anything I should watch out for? I haven't put down the deposit yet, maybe in a few weeks time.

Your advice is very much appreciated!
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Hi. Welcome to the club. Yes , that about the price for the transformation . Mine is the 1996 model 300TDI 110. Well, I brought mine at a premium price from a showroom . Had to do quite a fair bit of upgrades thereafter .
Things to look out are the engine mounts, engine leakages and also the undercarriage . Check out if there are leaks at the differential box( located at the front and rear)transfer box and your gearbox. I have seen some of them driving without servicing them and when mechcanical failure happen( often when you are off-roading) after dismantle the box. hold and behold, not a drop of gear oil was found in most cases thus causing frictions and totally unrepairable damages. This will set you back as the repair bill will( for sure) cost you a massive bomb.( take my word for it. )

If you still keen to know more and the workshop I frequent, than do PM me for the information.

Cheers

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post Oct 7 2012, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(man_hakim87 @ Oct 7 2012, 08:37 PM)
Wahh.. This tered getting active. Nice ride bro boarder. Sorry for what happened to ur engine. Nice timing to breakdown huh. Wah 200K for a new defender? Expensive.. Btw why ford engine? Landrover out source the engine?
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No worries about it. What happened already happen. I will let this incident be a lesson to oneself. As least , now I got a complete rebulit engine, I ve a better piece of mind. Knowing it internal parts are new . Planning another trip up to Thailand. Hehehe.

Yup,200k is pretty steep for a truck. But hey, you are buying a legend . Use regularly by numerous countries all over the world and has been tested and proven in real time wars .

As for the engine, all the information is found here bro.

From Spring 2007 a series of changes were made to the Defender, most of which were implemented to meet emissions and safety legislation. The biggest change was to the drivetrain. The Td5 engine was replaced by an engine from Ford's DuraTorq line (AKA the puma engine), built in their factory in Dagenham, making the Td5 the last Land Rover engine to be built in-house at Solihull. The engine chosen was from the ZSD family, being a version of the 2.4-litre four-cylinder unit also used in the highly successful Ford Transit. The engine's lubrication and sealing system has been adapted for use in wet, dusty conditions and to maintain lubrication at extreme angles in off-road use. The power level remains the same at 122 hp (91 kW), but with a lower power peak speed for towing and better acceleration. Torque output rose from 221 lb·ft (300 N·m) to 265 lb·ft (359 N·m) due to the fitting of a variable-geometry turbocharger. This produces a wider spread of torque than the Td5, from 1500 rpm to 2000 rpm. The engine is mated to a new 6-speed gearbox. 1st gear is lower than the previous gearbox for better low-speed control, whilst the higher 6th gear is intended to reduce noise and fuel consumption at high speeds.


Added on October 7, 2012, 8:29 pmMore about the ford engine use in the "Defender"

The only external changes were detail changes. The bonnet was reshaped with a bulge to allow the new engine to fit in the engine bay whilst meeting pedestrian safety rules. The new dashboard and ventilation system necessitated the removal of the distinctive air vent flaps underneath the windscreen which had been a feature of previous Land Rover utility models since the 1950s. Whilst the flaps have been deleted, the bulkhead pressing remains the same, so the outlines of where the flaps would be are still present.

At the other extreme, basic models are available for commercial users, such as emergency services. The models are sold in over 140 countries. A range of special conversions are available that include hydraulic platforms, fire engines, mobile workshops, ambulances, and breakdown recovery trucks. The 130 remains available with the 6-seater HCPU bodystyle as standard.

2012 Updates

In August 2011 Land Rover announced an update of the Defender for the 2012 model year.[6] By this time Land Rover had publically acknowledged that it was working on a project to produce an all-new replacement for the Defender. This would lead to the unveiling of the first DC100 concept vehicle in September that year. Therefore it was widely understood that the 2012MY upgrades would be the last made to the traditional Defender design before it was replaced. Whilst emissions and safety regulations had threatened the Defender since the early 2000s these had either been avoided through 'grandfather rights' or Land Rover had found ways to modify the vehicle to economically meet the new requirements. However safety regulations due for introduction in 2015 requiring minimum pedestrian safety standards and the fitment of airbags to commercial vehicles cannot be met without a wholesale redesign of the Defender.

The main change for the 2012 models was the installation of a different engine from the Ford Duratorq engine range. The 2.4-litre engine introduced in 2007 was not capable of meeting the upcoming Euro V Emissions Standards and so was replaced with the ZSD-422 engine, essentially a 2.2-litre variant of the same engine. Although smaller than the existing unit the power and torque outputs remained unchanged and the same 6-speed gearbox was used as well. engine included a Diesel particulate filter for the first time on a Defender. The only other change was the reintroduction of the Soft Top bodystyle to the general market. This had been a popular option for the Land Rover Series but by the introduction of the Defender had been relegated to special order and military buyers only. Land Rover stated that the option was being brought back due to 'customer feedback'.

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post Oct 7 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(man_hakim87 @ Oct 7 2012, 09:36 PM)
Aww.. So no more Td series engine. From the paper wise it stated that the ford engine is more powerful then the landrover engine. But from practicality anyone? I heard the landrover engine is rougher in terms more robust and rugged then other brand. What u guys think?
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My take is yes for The new ford engine now has better technology and engineering in it hence it has better HP and torque . But seriously, I still prefer the old LR TDI5 engine. As this engine lived through some civil wars and from what I heard, it's a engine easy to repair be it in dusty,wet or moist environment . The LR TDI5 engine can even be underwater and yet still function .

For the new Ford engine, I am not too sure if it can beat that but do correct me if I am wrong.

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post Oct 7 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(lancer193 @ Oct 7 2012, 10:33 PM)
Just got my 1989 Defender 90 this March! Got my engine fully overhauled after that, really cost me a bomb  cry.gif
Just painted it matte black last week, more pictures coming soon!
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Mine is Matt black too bro. Welcome to the club.


Added on October 7, 2012, 11:33 pmFor your reading/viewing pleasure.

Quite a good write-up.

Adventure in Malaysia. For a good cause .

http://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-tech/471...ysia-again.html

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post Feb 3 2013, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(coolman78 @ Dec 20 2012, 12:57 PM)
Hi guys, im having defender 300tdi. Currently im looking for complete engine, please let me know if you have any contact. Thanks in advance.
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You can pm me for my contacts. I do know some good working engines.

Cheers
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post Feb 3 2013, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(swing123 @ Jan 17 2013, 09:17 PM)
Saw the 2007 defender brochure on Land RoverMalaysia website but the price list only has the 110. Meaning they are not selling the 90 swb. I loath the retro look of the current version of defender and would love to have one if they are selling the CKD version of the 90, sigh. The bulge in the bonnet brings that extra aura lol
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I do know now the agents do carry the 90 version. Heard the prices has dropped too.

You can now buy yourself the single can flat bed, double cab flatbed and the 110 Stationwagon. Heck , they even have the local army specs too for private usage.
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post Feb 3 2013, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(mscw88 @ Jan 9 2013, 04:18 PM)
Is it expensive to own a Defender ?? Plan to buy a used AT Defender......
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Why AT and not MT? LoL

For an auto, it's pretty hard to find/buy at the right amount..

As long as you maintain your truck engine and gear box...ect, servicing it on time, check that all your oil level are sufficient enough. It's a reasonable truck to own.

But for certain wear and tear, it might cost you quite a bit.

Overall, it's a wonderful machine to drive and to off road
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post Feb 3 2013, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Oct 23 2012, 05:01 PM)
generally, what is the maintainence expense like?
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Well, a simple engine oil change with our filter and labour cost you less than rm200.

The other complete oil change are the killer. We are talking transmission gear oil, axle oils both front and back, transfer box oil.. That could set you back around rm500( depending on the brand of oil you choose)

Also regreasing your shaft, checking for oil leaks of your axles. That add up the cost.

But overall, it's still priced reasonably.
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QUOTE(xecton @ Feb 3 2013, 11:03 PM)
Cool... how much approximately is the price for the 90?
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Last I heard brand new cost rm88k
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post Feb 4 2013, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Feb 4 2013, 09:00 AM)
That doesn't sounds quite right.
I mean, a 30 year old Defender 90 is being sold at RM50k to RM60K
One I found in Mudah.
Why is it being sold at such high price if a brand new one is around RM30k more?
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My bad.. I have given you the wrong info . The newer defenders are now labelled "Puma" and uses ford engine . The one at mudah is what collectors/ avid diehard would describe it as a true LR Defender. A collectors car with all LR parts and LR engine plant. The 300TDI.

Try calling the shop and see how nego they can go. Go take a look at it first. Maybe the previous owner had already upgraded some parts hence the price.( I can't really see much from the picture in mudah)

To each it own bro. Some would say its reasonably priced. Some would say otherwise.

Good luck with your hunting bro.

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