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davidke20
post Oct 9 2012, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Oct 9 2012, 03:04 AM)
IAFM spoils? if really then WTF!
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I believe you're saying the minor ticking sound when early morning engine idling, which is normal for hydraulic teppet engines, such as 4G93 DOCH for WIRA 1.8/Satria GTi/PUTRA, and now our CAMPOR S4Px series engine in most of the Plotong 2005 model onwards.

This happened more often on cold start, when there's not enough engine oil to be channeled to the valves. After sometime started the engine, noise will slowly fade to minimal. Bear in mind, not completely gone. If you pay attention to it, you can still hear it. However, it's hardly noticeable while driving.

Try to grab a camera and record the sound, find out where it came from and post it here so we can help to troubleshoot.
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post Oct 9 2012, 10:20 AM

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Tentatively, price is RM10 RM9 RM8(minimum order of 50). Last time we managed to dealt 40 units at RM8/piece. Let's see what can I do this time. I'm sorry the final negotiation was RM8.50 for 40pieces and above. Anyway, he still willing to put down the price to match previous bulk, which is RM8 at 50pcs and above. This will be the last time with such low price at RM8. Let us enjoy this low price for 1 last time flex.gif

Unit Price = From RM10 RM9 RM8. and or below depending on negotiation
Poslaju semenanjung = RM6
Poslaju sarawak = RM8.50
Poslaju Sabah = RM9.50
Closing date = 31st October, 2012
COD DIY TT = McD Sri Damansara
COD DIY Date = Hari Raya Haji 26th October 2012 / 3rd November 2012
Suggested guest appearance = Leona Chin, leave to Iska & r3apers to negotiate

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post Oct 9 2012, 06:20 PM

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To explain kokhing issue:

1) If you hear klok klok sound from the back wheels, that probably is the bad brakes. Most GaGa & Gabby got this problem. Kindly send back to Plotong SC and fuck them upside down to replace your brake. Common problem already. If after corner release brake time got "TOK" sound, brakeshoe slam on the drum, this is due to bad noise insulation. All drumbrake car got this sound,you didn't hear it on the other car because their wheel base got boise reduction, which FLX doesn't have.

2) Chok ha chok ha: it is because GaGa CheeBeeTee uses clutch base, so the low speed kick back is unavoidable. Explain in technical is because wheel got momentum, momentum channel back to driveshaft, driveshaft pull back clutch, clutch pull crankshaft, crankshaft pull conrod, conrod pull piston, piston pull down vacuum, vacuum couldn't release then the car chok ha chok ha. Hope you understand clutch base CVT is exactly the same like manual car running on 1st gear. If u sprint your 1st gear to 40kmh, then let it engine brake to slow down without pressing clutch pedal you'll experience the exact same feeling like the CVT chok ha chok ha. Nothing is wrong with you car.

3) If you are saying when you press little bit on the gas pedal but the car no move, press little bitmore then the car wanna go masuk longkang, that is drive by wire throttle lag. All you do is, press little bit, wait for 1-2 seconds then the car will move. All GaGa got this problem. If still in doubt, pls attend TT, other CVT user may explain to you and or demo for you if allowed. Also another common issue in GaGa CVT was the sticky shift stick, when slot in R gear the car doesn't do anything, slot it back to N and reengage R again it should work perfectly normal. Cars that slightly "seasoned" should have no problem already.

Hope this help
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post Oct 9 2012, 08:16 PM

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In reply to kokhing again:

What is don't do anything? Got problem means need to fix! Be it common problem, minor problem, major problem, sorhai problem, kukujiao problem no problem! Must fix! If dun fix go tribunal pengguna komplen them!

Yiu ask them kenapa blek ala bunyik, they will understand and work on it. Normally u don't get to claim new brake on your 1st visit, they will open the drum and grind your brakeshoe. If you get lucky, this should solve the problem liao, otherwise few days later it happened again. If it happened again, go back & fuck them again & again until they change a brand new brakeshoe for you. Our very own proud dares changed 3 sets of brakes so far & ... ... changed car to FoFi liao laugh.gif I myself bcoz no warranty, release handbrake tension to the max then gao dim once & for all.

Regarding clutch CVT and throttle lag is a complement to each other. Without throttle lag, the car jerks even more! Train your right leg, & you shall enjoy the great technology Plotong employed on GaGa. Drive by wire shall produce better fuel economy when proper driving technique applied icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 10:53 PM

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Tentatively, price is RM10 RM9 RM8(minimum order of 50). Last time we managed to dealt 40 units at RM8/piece. Let's see what can I do this time. I'm sorry the final negotiation was RM8.50 for 40pieces and above. Anyway, he still willing to put down the price to match previous bulk, which is RM8 at 50pcs and above. This will be the last time with such low price at RM8. Let us enjoy this low price for 1 last time flex.gif

Unit Price = From RM10 RM9 RM8. and or below depending on negotiation
Poslaju semenanjung = RM6
Poslaju sarawak = RM8.50
Poslaju Sabah = RM9.50
Closing date = 31st October, 2012
COD DIY TT = McD Sri Damansara
COD DIY Date = Hari Raya Haji 26th October 2012 / 3rd November 2012
Suggested guest appearance = Leona Chin, leave to Iska & r3apers to negotiate

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post Oct 9 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(20v_ke35 @ Oct 9 2012, 11:05 PM)
Just to share my founding. Someone present, but our future. Proton Saga S16 chassis with Electric Motor. Top speed at 134km/h, 1/4 mile at 20.8 sec and 3.2km/volt.
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Itching to get the future car racing. More pic here
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post Oct 10 2012, 12:30 PM

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Warranty?! What warranty?

1) Fix alignment = RM15
2) Rear brake rake got noise = RM0
3) 15k service = RM90 castrol
4) 20k service = RM90 castrol
5) 25k service = RM75 idemitsu vtec
6) Torsion beam kangkang = RM130
7) Hutan bakat incident = RM200
8) Slut bars total = RM665
9) Simota drop in = RM130
10) Oppa HKStyle = RM230
11) Rim+tayar = RM800
12) Bantal sejuk x2 = RM20
13) Steering cover sejuk = RM25
14) MP3 modulator = RM19.90
15) Fuel save magnet = RM8(belom bikin)
16) Underseat sub = RM20

Tibai, cincai calculate ady spent RM3200 on the damn car liao, sumore send bak plotong SC ar?! Sure dai liao shakehead.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 01:07 PM

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Hutan bakar incident = CO sensor terlampau kotor, sent wrong signal to ECU, as a result spray more petrol. Too much petrol result in more carbon generated & emit black smoke like hutan bakar. Carbon stick on CO sensor, make the signal even leaner, even more petrol spray into combustian, lagi manyak carbon, hutan bakar lagi kuat! CO lagi lean, lagi-lagi signal crazy, lagi-lagi manyak petrol masuk combustian. Top speed 40kmh + hutan bakar efek laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Oct 10 2012, 04:13 PM)
err...
during run in period..
the fuel comsumption is crazily high?

rm40 = 200- km...

why ha? any solution?
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Right leg is utmost important. New car does not require run in to achieve good FC. Often heard people say the more mileage done on the car better FC is because the owner started to familiarized with the car's torque curve, knowing when to accelerate, and when to withdraw cause even full throttle the car also won't move doh.gif (like the 1 I mentioned before, when you tekan sikit the car wouldn't move, tekan banyak masok longkang)

QUOTE(MildLO @ Oct 10 2012, 06:06 PM)
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post Oct 10 2012, 09:09 PM

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I think its about time to blog about how to save petrol liao sleep.gif Been on on off off posting the same stuff, also got into argument with the tree huger sleep.gif

1) FC mostly depending on traffic condition, it could be recently traffic got heavier
2) Go wash your pollen filter, make sure its clean so you get more aircond. Try to reduce the thermostat to minimal. Do remember our 2000cc worth SANDEN compressor took out almost 1/3 of the torque just to power up cold air in the cabin. You can blast your blower speed at 4(if you can take it), just be very careful on the thermostat will do.
3) Don't stay in the car and blow aircond. Refer no.2. My normal blower speed at 3. Thermostat is half during the day, and minimal at night.
4) It's not 3krpm shift up or 2.5krpm. It's how long does it take to reach 3krpm. Try to reduce a little bit of your acceleration. For example usually within 1 second you hit 3krpm, immediately shift up, this is a good way to lose petrol. Can try take 2 seconds to hit 3krpm, follow by 3 seconds. You'll be surprise by practicing this alone already save you bunch of fuel.
5) Sometimes it's not 5th gear 2krpm all the way can save petrol. If uphill slope, let the cruising speed slow down a little bit. If needed, downshift and maintain slightly higher RPM, you'll be surprise it actually save petrol with higher RPM on low gear, rather than low RPM in higher gear when going uphill.
6) From far already see traffic light red light, still go and "bem! bem!" show off, ofcoz waste petrol la. I normally declutch and let the car roll until stop. If suddenly turn green light, drop gear and continue acceleration.

Basically thats about it. Lazy to explain technical alreay sleep.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 11 2012, 09:06 AM)
davidke20, what are your usual vacuum readings? My Persona seem to have touched 10in/Hg when gear engaged and air-con. Accelerating easily drops vacuum to 5 or less. Idle without aircon is about 17-19.

I don't seem to recall the vacuum being so low before I went for a holiday.
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Sorry for late reply. I'm at work, not convenient to check back often.

Most S4PE has 17in/hg idling, S4PH on FLX SE got 19in/hg.

Sanden aircon compressor kicks in can drop to 12in/hg when full gas(mine reduced pressure - less cold to achieve 15in/hg).

On regular driving with aircon, indeed very easy to touch 10 or 5in/hg, depending on acceleration. I normally try to maintain between 10-15in/hg.

For 4AT, engaged D could mean torque convertor eating up FC whilst aircon kicked in, I believe 10-12in/hg is very normal. Provided u r running on NGV, that could mean injected gas has normalized the vacuum(in short, vacuum inaccuracy).
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Changed my driver's side lock actuator to after market, need to modify. RM60. Very loud, from far hit the remote can hear the lock disengage "TOK!"

Today just filled up. 1st bar gone at 84.6km. Now heading home, dunno whether will drop another bar. I change engine oil every month, normally use cheapjing oil oni. No marney to buy fully synthetic blush.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 06:28 PM

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By the way, I use erictioh VS. Nothing significant on performance. However, very noticeable on in car entertainment. I use active subwoofer without filter, running current directly from fuse box ignition, therefore whenever air-cond kicks in, each time wiper sweep the screen, signal, every electrical related accessories being activate, I can hear the woofer "burp". After erictioh VSed, those sound totally gone. Headlight dim slightly reduced, still dim when aircond kicks in.

Quote V12k, erictioh VS is consider cheap l cheerful. Haily recommended.
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QUOTE(aakish77 @ Oct 11 2012, 08:33 PM)
Guys... !
went to my regular accessory shop and i saw two types of VS. raizin costing RM140 and one more brand called hurricane which was really well built n pretty heavy too costing about rm450. So, i brought along my fluke multi meter and we measured the value in micro farad :
Raizin - 21462 microFarad
Hurricane - 68795 micro farad
Measured saga body grounding from battery + to cvt/alternator/ engine bottom and firewall = 14.45vdc. (engine running)
The only part we got 13.8vdc is from radiator frame.
I didn't fix neither of the VS yet.
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 11 2012, 10:29 PM)
You graduate 1985?  blink.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 11 2012, 10:32 PM)
No la, i graduate form 5 on year 2002...
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Added on October 12, 2012, 12:18 am
QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Oct 11 2012, 10:50 PM)
how do i know when got any TT for this club??
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post Oct 12 2012, 12:40 AM

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Tentatively, price is RM10 RM9 RM8(minimum order of 50). Last time we managed to dealt 40 units at RM8/piece. Let's see what can I do this time. I'm sorry the final negotiation was RM8.50 for 40pieces and above. Anyway, he still willing to put down the price to match previous bulk, which is RM8 at 50pcs and above. This will be the last time with such low price at RM8. Let us enjoy this low price for 1 last time flex.gif

Unit Price = From RM10 RM9 RM8. and or below depending on negotiation
Poslaju semenanjung = RM6
Poslaju sarawak = RM8.50
Poslaju Sabah = RM9.50
Closing date = 31st October, 2012
COD DIY TT = McD Sri Damansara
COD DIY Date = Hari Raya Haji 26th October 2012 / 3rd November 2012
Suggested guest appearance = Leona Chin, leave to Iska & r3apers to negotiate

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2) alister88
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4) honamd77
5) honamd77
6) honamd77
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8) THE CLASS OF 13
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post Oct 12 2012, 12:42 AM

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I got missed out any one anot? Overwhelmed jor blink.gif
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post Oct 12 2012, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Oct 12 2012, 12:48 AM)
Huah...ramai bebenor..

Got this filter for Satria Neo CPS?

sorry kepoh2 here..hehe
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Found in Lelong

I'm not a seller, helping others to organize bulk oni sweat.gif
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All samtek boi, no need to fight. I'm the youngest sleep.gif smaller graduation year means younger rite sleep.gif
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四条眉毛老林often send his car to my magician shop. I oso help repair his car several times when I was there. He now 1 of the director in private school. If u guys remember there's a Methodist Hai Skol, now he own part of it sleep.gif Most recent saw him was back in April when I sent GaGa back to magician to do inspeksen rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 12 2012, 09:02 AM)
i want to join jejak kasih also lah.
srk jalan pasar 1, kl 1984, 1988-1989.
sk st. joseph, kuching 1985-1987
sm jalan cochrane, kl 1990-1992
sm teknik cheras, kl 1993-1994
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