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gladfly
post Oct 2 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Oct 2 2012, 03:44 PM)
yes if u set it to MP1, the item drops the same for act 1, 2, 3 ,4 so u dont have to grind act 3 tongue.gif act 1 also boleh jatuh the same good item
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IIMNM...at battlenet a blue mentioned that once MP on..ACt1,2,3,4 same chance of dropping any loots (including lagendaries/set). There is no difference in difficulty between acts as all Monsters are ilevl63. hence Act1 may be harder for some people, Act 3 could be easier. Only difference in difficulty is when moving up in MP, i.e MP2 Act 1,2,3,4 will be harder than MP1.


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post Oct 2 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Oct 2 2012, 04:49 PM)
so starting in 1.0.5

we can see ilvl63 uniques in act 1 then

blue got mention something bout "monster level" that determines the quality of the loot? their monster level mean MP1-10 or the type of mob?
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Nope. AFAIK, monster level i.e the difficulty (HP/damage) increase when you move up in MP. The type of mob will be linear, i.e a champion/rare/white will all be based on MP level, all 63. Doesnt mean that you kill butcher (the strongest charactere at Act 1 = better chance of getting better gears) otherwise everyone will just go find specific mobs and kill those only. As you move up in MP you gain bonus MF/GF and EXP. So, in essence, you get higher MF hence more drops at ilevel r63 rolls which leads to a better "chance" of getting better gears. Thats what I understand le from their explanation.

TLDR More drops with ilevel63 rolls = better chances of getting good items
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post Oct 2 2012, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Oct 2 2012, 07:27 PM)
so do you mean the higher MF, the higher chance to get i63?

or

the higher mf, the better stat roll of an eq?
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Yes to both. Logically, more MF means more drops, hence more chance of getting ilevel63. MF does improve rolls but as I know its negligible, the percentage is really small but it still helps. All items in MP will be ilevel63 rolls. Hence, an ilevel58 item may roll up to its max potential (assuming its rolls perfectly). However, ilevel 63 items will have more afflixes, 6 random rolls hence compared with ilevel58 at 4, so assuming it rolls perfectly, an ilvel63 item will be better than ilevel58 (assuming both rolls perfectly). So, ilevel63 items will still be sought for, except the range of all rolls of all items are now based on the range ilevel63.

Dont know what will happen to the drop rates as the the current rates re based on Acts ..i.e Act 1 drops rates are different with Act 2 and so on. I assume it will be one rate for all since the monster difficulty level is the same through out all 4 acts after 1.05. This my opinion only...

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post Oct 3 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 2 2012, 08:11 PM)
not how i understand it:

- more MF does not mean higher change to get iLvl63
- item level determined by item table. based on Act for MP0. based on another table for MP1 and above.
- MF does not affect rolls. ie: high MF can still get +12 resist to all.
- MF affects number of affixes. ie: Higher MF can give more affixes; 6 random rolls, instead of 4
- item level does not affect number of affixes; ie: item level 58 can have 6 random rolls

Source: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/57939-magi...stical-insight/
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Thanks for linking that page, was looking for it.

I'll just put what was concluded at para 6.4 Number of affixes on rare items as a function of MF:-

It was stated :"Put another way: You will find more rare items with more MF and those rare items will have a chance to roll out 4A, 5A and 6A, but the relative distribution of 4A, 5A and 6A are not changing by significant amounts by increasing MF.

(emphasis is mine).

At 7.Summary, it was concluded:-

•Magic find does not increase the number of items found (aka not effective on quantity).

My reading of that means that MF does not affect the number of items dropping from the pack (be it white, blue of yellow). Put it this way, if the pack if selected to drop 6 items, thats it..MF will no increase the number of item dropping. Perhaps I wasnt clear on my statement earlier, when I said drops I was referring to rare drops (heck no one cares for blue or white) smile.gif

Also at 7

•Early results indicate that MF does increase the number of affixes on rare items, however, the effect appears to be minimal and close to neglible for the standard elite drops. It does, however, appear to have a prominent effect on the NV rare drop.

My reading is that, MF does effect rolls of afflixes but the effect is very small. However, it appears that the rolls on NV drop (the guaranteed drop) is co-related to MF.


Well, thats my reading hence I am not saying I am absolutely right (unlike someone we know). but I am all ears ..smile.gif

This post has been edited by gladfly: Oct 3 2012, 01:05 PM

 

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