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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V46!, VOTE!!! VOTE!!! VOTE!!!!11!

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edison1437
post Sep 25 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 25 2012, 05:42 PM)
bcome taxi jor .... so HABIS jo lor ....
chabutttttttttttzzzzzzzzzz
persona diff .. persona 40 - 50k ...
inspira 80k .... so ppl will says .. WHY NO BUY VIOS ?
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post Sep 25 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 25 2012, 05:49 PM)
ur fren no taste...
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But but but... They all drive dugong got taste or not ah??
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post Sep 25 2012, 07:12 PM

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post Sep 25 2012, 10:09 PM

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That day I went to k3's house other than him anyone else fix the lock switch?
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post Sep 25 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 26 2012, 12:03 AM)
Stewpik is the lockman...

undertray evo shd be diff..

wait.. are u planing for custom evo x bumper or ori?
coz ori is wider cannot fit .. unless u change fender oso.. if custom one most likely dun need change undertray
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Need cut and connect wires?
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post Sep 27 2012, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 27 2012, 06:15 PM)
anyone with 2.0 wan conveet 1.8?
i wan convert 2.0 . brows.gif
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y u no ask any lancer hatchback 1 2 down grade or not? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Sep 27 2012, 07:23 PM)
bro... u really wan or what? if u wan i can found for u  blush.gif


Added on September 27, 2012, 6:26 pmjust replaced this

was doing 100km/h suddenly got a dead dog on the road, cannot avoid
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dead dog u also dun 1 2 let go doh.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Sep 28 2012, 12:44 AM)
diam lar mijubiji wannabe pariah installer mr. man of his words aka macgyver or well known here as k3 the kopy-kat-kenny... put-key-mug... shakehead.gif
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The name is getting Longer and longer sweat.gif rclxub.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Sep 28 2012, 12:49 AM)
me heard he got sumthing else even longer... u want try... brows.gif
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u tried b4?
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post Sep 28 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Sep 28 2012, 04:14 PM)
*reading mode* activated
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popcorn ada beli?
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post Sep 29 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 29 2012, 12:12 PM)
thanks unker Mat for u guys understanding and respect!

Like many user said before..  can push further ah? all i answer is.. strongly not recommended... the stock setup.. the "siham" shaped extractor... Those with extractor changed will know what i mean.. is strongly a big No for those much more extrnsive timing.. i think i explain the air flow on that before.. and of coz the AFR.. each n every map u guys get are dynoed and the tuning is fall within the very safe zone still..

cheerss
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aiyo let us finish the engine oil issue 1st la tok so many about other for wad not yet finish u move to other topic already doh.gif doh.gif
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post Sep 29 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(usj101 @ Sep 29 2012, 03:52 PM)
New design for 2013 model

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 29 2012, 05:11 PM)
no place for the unlock switch d..
stewpik might wanna bundle up with cuplid
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Mine already like this wor...
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post Sep 30 2012, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 30 2012, 05:33 PM)
Since he is creating his FAQ with his "knowledge" .. maybe it is time to share mine openly .. (not the map .. but the knowledge tongue.gif)

No Dyno Chart will be provided here.. wan see dyno chart ? come to TT .. smile.gif

Q: Are All Engine build equally ?
A: NO! .. there are range of tolerance that an engine can take. This is to lower the cost of engine building as not every material casted will have the same exact size .. difference my micro/milimeter. A simple example will be piston, they comes in grade A,B,C .. if and only if the size is bigger or smaller than A B C .. the piston is rejected.

Q: Since engine are not build equally , is there any needs for the manufacturer to assign different maps for different build ?
A: Yes and No ..
Yes, to optimise each and every engine, every map for every engine should be different. BUT, this will cause a lot of time and money for the manufacturer, thus a general map is use for STOCK car. Hence this means the engine are not fully optimise for what it can produce.

Q: what does you remap do ?
A: Before we go to what does a remap do, i will answer why can we push more power out of the car with software remap first. Our car mapping does not comes from proton, its from mitsubishi. Lancer is being sold worldwide. As a manufacturer, to cut cost, lower down the power of the engine and detune the timing will help the engine to adapt with most fuel it can get. In some poorer country, they get lower RON rating for their fuel. In other words, the engine is not optimizing Ron95 or Ron97 . Not even close.
On the Remap, I enhance the timing of the iginition (RPM dependent). Doing so, spark plug will be fired earlier thus creating more power when the fuel is compressed.

AFR should also be monitored, which i did, the actual figure will only be tell on TT (most of us know d) .. as we dun wan self called tuner but dunno how an engine works one simply copy the fact than says i copied his .. But I can assure that the AFR fall way below the safe zone.

Q: Why is AFR so important ?
A: Fuel doesnt only use to make the engine move .. it also use to cold down the engine. Pushing it leaner .. you might get better mileage but creating more streess on the engine gasket. it is more prone to crack in long run. possible might crack the piston as well.

Q: What about Mivec .. when does it kick in ?
A: the mivec for 4B10 / 4B11 / 4B12 .. does not kick in .. its unlike the older days 4G92 mivec .. this mivec is actually a variable valve timing. for inlet, the timing can be neutral or advanced .. advancing the timing will open the valve earlier. the exhaust timing is either neutral or retarted .. (Close later) .. this is cruicial to make the air and fuel mix better .. at low speed you want to create slight turbulance to make better air fuel mixture. during high speed, restriction shd be minimize to ensure the air fuel flow into the combusion chamber as fast and smooth as possible.

Q: How did the dyno thing work ?
A: Dyno is to measure the power that our engine can deliver and to monitor its health. AFR is the crucial point for engine's health. i have already mention above, it is way below safe point .

Q: Does dyno varies ?
A: Yes .. if it rains, hot day .. the air density will be different. Even the fuel being use will have different results. Thats why we keep it way below the safe point, so any fuel any day it will be fine. BUT if the map is source from other country, there is no guarantee. In country like US, their temperature will not be as hot as ours. Air density will be higher, hence they have more room to push. Hot day you need more fuel. Cold day less fuel.

Q: So you do map customization ?
A: Yes.. according to the user request . For more extreme user only. And yes .. i do request a full dyno with AFR then only we know wat to do with it. it is still way below the safe zone.

Q: The other guy claim that you got the remap knowledge from him?
A: He is a good joker .. I decoded the 1mb rom and gave him the metadata (if he even know what does that means). I did that for a whole week to get the cruise control working for 1.8 mt (guess most of them know already). Well enuf talk of that guy as i dun wan ppl think i wan curi his business.

Q: So how was the result after remap and before ?
A: Different dyno machines give different reading. Some are more happy figures some are less happy. but we stick to one dyno machine and use it as a baseline.

Q: Mind sharing the result ?
A: Since "HE" question that we simply R&D, i didnt mind share the figure itself but not the graph as later he will comment tat i copied from him.
We dyno with Millenium motor sports using dyno dynamics. The dyno figure there is more to non-happy figures..
Well a fully stock car (1.8 MT) .. we get 110.8 bhp
the first remap we did ... 115.3 bhp
the one we further fine tuned .. 118.9 bhp
and our secret setup ... 128.7 bhp
which is still safe for daily driven car and room for improvement.
as a figure of comparison we get 110.8bhp (stock in dyno dynamics) while in JC Racing we get 128.5 bhp (stock in dyno jets)
pheww... long syoik sendiri FAQ ..
and btw .. we never condem malay or muslim fren .. even .. we have malays together with us BBQ and so on .. and those who trying to make fire in ppl's FB .. its their own ppl .. because their FB cannot access simply and have to be approve before join .. and most of our member has already been ban there... God knows why la ... North Korea rulling i guess
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Dei doh.gif why write so long took me long time to finish read these.
Anyway can pip put this on the first page?


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post Sep 30 2012, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(botack @ Sep 30 2012, 10:03 PM)
Wah....new map on the way!...drool.gif
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Nia seng this is like android firm ware ah keep on update
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post Sep 30 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(botack @ Sep 30 2012, 10:14 PM)
It is lynspira's community version leh....we go dyno and improve on the map...else..how to go improve map leh?u think come from sky is it?laugh.gif

That is how a tuner work lo...get feedback from his customer,go dyno,see data and improve on it to extract more power from the engine...
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then any charges for the updates? drool.gif drool.gif
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post Sep 30 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(jnick @ Sep 30 2012, 11:04 PM)
Deng!!! I m not those ppl geh. Put salt on wound...
I put honey only....... Chabutzzzz


Added on September 30, 2012, 10:05 pm
Yes. After I dyno. Hehe. But urs still Siham....
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QUOTE(botack @ Sep 30 2012, 11:13 PM)
Pay once..free update until u go change to standalone ecu lo....then no free update edi...have to pay everytime wanna remap..
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post Sep 30 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 30 2012, 11:22 PM)
dun worry beng.. we are all classfied as beng d..
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so now lynspirian r cheap ah beng? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 1 2012, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Connexiionz @ Oct 1 2012, 03:29 AM)
Seriously ... u guys are a joke ... Comparing a better built car to a inferior copy?? Its a joke... Just in case yall din know, Mitsubishi will no longer suppy technology transfer to Proton due to the Lancer/Inspira debacle.

Comparing Campro engine to a aluminium block MIVEC ... do i need to say more??? Power efficiency of the Lancer outguns the Inspira anytime... I still do not know why Inspiras try to race with a Lancer GT ... tryin to prove its better??? dude, its malaysian made inspira ... truly greatly inferior ...

I own a Lancer GT 2012 ... I find the CVT gearbox much more smoother than the Inspira ... and trust me .. the next a-hole who asks me how much i spent to facelift my lancer from a inspira .... i will run him over
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post Oct 1 2012, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Oct 1 2012, 09:27 AM)
dia butthurt... confirm case...
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he is hot butthurt but "steel teeth" laugh.gif laugh.gif
rather spend 30+k more for the brand rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 1 2012, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(s@ni @ Oct 1 2012, 09:35 AM)
At least he got better cvt and engine yo tongue.gif

I wonder why he didnt buy the sportsback. 4b12 brows.gif

Anyway, i found out this info is very gooding for those who wanna buy wila lim from nzh:
http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/equiva...les-advice.html
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yah if i were him i'll got for 4B12 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
maybe he dont want to pay extra for the fuel and road tax? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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