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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Nov 11 2011, 05:34 PM

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post Dec 2 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 2 2011, 03:33 PM)
Will changing the exhaust only cause the car lose or gained horsepower?
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it can go either way....

correct setup...gain

wrong setup... lose
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post Dec 2 2011, 03:58 PM

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well...getting the pipe size correct is one thing.. dont la go put 3" pipes on ur 1.5 laugh.gif

alot of diff factors from pipe size... pipe bends, type of bends, muffler, centre box/bullet... amount of centre box, bullet etc could contribute to it.

best to find another car which has the same engine and find out if their exhaust setup has benefitted them
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post Dec 7 2011, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 7 2011, 11:54 AM)
From what I know, install stainless steel extractors are not good for the plastic and rubber around the engine because the temperature is higher than other materials.
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if not steel then wat?
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post Dec 7 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 7 2011, 02:22 PM)
Same materials as the original is the best.
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which is?
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post Dec 7 2011, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 7 2011, 02:31 PM)
Not sure what kind of material is it. But I can confirm that it won't store too heat energy to effect the durable of plastic and rubber around the engine especially mounting and radiator fans...
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stock materials are either cast iron (mostly) or steel. the main reason why stock extractors wont heat up the engine bay so much is coz they have heatshields on them... u will rarely see a bare stock extractor (unless pureposely removed which imho, is stupid as it works well and even looks better... stock extractors are fugly...)

aftermarket extractors wont be able to fit under those heatshields and hence are usually exposed and will dissipate the heat freely into the engine bay...so either ceramic coat (expensive) it or thermal wrap (cheap) it if ur worried.

but if u put a bare cast iron header vs steel header.. the difference in heat is negligible in regards to engine bay heat....
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post Dec 9 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Dec 9 2011, 04:11 PM)
i think 4-1 is better for <3k rpm
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the other way round dood

4-2-1 benefits more on the lower to mid range of the rpm

4-1 benefits more on the top end/ higher end of the rev range
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post Dec 10 2011, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Dec 9 2011, 06:42 PM)
You sure you can sacrifice low end power? I'm having similar set-up as yours other than 2 normal bullet + 2.0" piping. The low end is horrible together with 17" on a 1.6L engine.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Which sifu change their flexipipe to smaller diameter here again? care to share if it'll improve the low end?
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I think ur piping size is fine for a 1.6...

U want more low end power? Change to 15"
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post Dec 11 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(ben3085 @ Dec 10 2011, 09:31 PM)
Anything above 1.7" is for cars like 1.8 and above. And max for N/A engine is 2.0".
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 11 2011, 10:44 AM)
I think quite accurate as my 2.0 turbo only using 2.5"
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i disagree with it...piping size doesnt always relate to CC...its more on the amount of power u have and where in the rev ranger is that power at.

take for example 1.6...campros and CPS goes up to 2.0 and the gain is pretty decent... even CPS stock piping size is 2.0....go bigger and kaput...

but when it comes to the 1.6 MIVECs and VTECs...although the 2" pipes is pretty decent for those engines but they benefit more with 2.3" especially since most of the peak power is at the higher end of the rev range and the bigger pipe size really benefits the higher rev range.

my 2.0 VTEC is running 2.5" pipes.. and its good...so good.. 4-1, 2.5" pipe, 1 midbox, no muffler.

i also have an exhaust cut out valve.. so when the valve closed the exhaust is forced from a 2.5" pipe into a 2.3" pipe and s-flow muffler.....i lose 15hp about 1.2kg torque. tested this on the dyno just yesterday

so max n/a is 2.0"??? big big no.
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post Dec 21 2011, 02:26 PM

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post May 5 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 4 2012, 05:38 PM)
Bro, I feel that 2.5" is too big for your car setup, no offense smile.gif
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with the high cams... i actually think its alright...
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post May 9 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(PedoJokerBear-XII @ May 7 2012, 02:26 PM)
So, i went to see an old friend, a vtech formen which tried my car. He scared me till my pants off as he said that my driving style doesnt suit the s-flow muffler i bought, as for now the muffler itself has become the flow resistance and there's a chance that it will affect my HEAD, as the backpressure was too high.

Can anyone verify this? Do i really need to change my muffler to straight flow instead? Is there any straight muffler which can provide low frequency bassy sound instead od praaaangggggggg sound?

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wats a vtech?


n go try out the mugen twin loop

and 2.3" straightflow muffler is fine with 2" pipes... had that setup last time...coz its nearing the end already
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post May 21 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ May 18 2012, 09:40 AM)
My extractor cracked..and already weld it.but power kureng la..damn..
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i think there may be other cracks ur not aware of... have u gone through every single inch?

piping and muffler etc all got crack oso can affect u know...

when mine cracked i had it welded and the difference was significant..
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post May 28 2012, 03:44 PM

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looking for a stock rear muffler with 2.5" inlet...

the quieter the better... preferably a stock exhaust from some car... any idea wat car uses a muffler with that size inlet?
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QUOTE(saru04 @ Jun 22 2012, 02:48 PM)
okay, I was told to go to extractor shop first then only piping and muffler.

I have more confidence in the extractor shop's workmanship.

But piping and muffler shop can get cheap but workmanship not so good.

So is it okay to just go extractor first then piping and muffler?
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cheap but workmanship no good still mau ka??

like that means stick to the extractor shop only la since their workmanship is good and get the whole system there... mebbe u get whole system they give u discount?

somemore extractor doesnt really involve workmanship... its just basically bolting and unbolting only since the extractor is ready made...

the rest of the exhaust however is a different story and where workmanship really counts..need to bend, weld, fit, etc etc
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QUOTE(then17000 @ Mar 7 2013, 11:12 AM)
hi everyone,

just want to asked which part should i changed first for my Perdua Kelisa.
either the Extractor or the muffler box?
has went to a few exhaust shop some said that changed Extractor 1st some said changed the muffler 1st.
so just need some advise and suggestion.

between any good exhaust shop in Cheras?
found a few shop selling the 3 - 1 extractor for 150-200 come along with the flexible hose.
does this extractor reliable?

everything in my Kelisa is from factory. Haven mod anything yet.

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Kelisa? look for Marco exhaust... cheap and good feedbacks for kenari/kelisa
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post Mar 7 2013, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(then17000 @ Mar 7 2013, 06:12 PM)
hi there,

do you have any link on the Marco exhaust?
i found one is at melaka... >.<
i am staying at KL.
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http://www.marcomy.com/mgold.asp
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marco-Powerf...150294471670640

i know a shop in SS3 PJ that sells marco exhausts... dunno where else got sell... its right behind the taman bahagia LRT station... there will be marco on the signboard

 

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