Basically its all boils down to one thing, proton buyers get that bang of the buck if they see pass through the "lower tier car"

And these people saves lost of money to focus on other things.

I dont see the advantage of dugong and city as entry/junior exec car. Its wiser for me to buy cheap proton for my first car and buy a mazda 6 or honda accord in terms of future upgrades.

Vios and city?? Not worth it imho

i think what he meant is something like dying your hair blonde doesnt make you a caucasian.

Go test drive a Waja and some conti and Jap cars before making that ignorant statement. The feel of Waja are more like Conti and less like Jap. Nothing to do with your hair color.

waja is based on mitsu mah.. yeah when they put the renault engine inside sure feels like trying to maintain a french car reliability..

yes waja is asia's bmw i driving toyota vios, superior compared to waja.

This post has been edited by ar188: Sep 16 2012, 12:55 PM

Wira chassis is based on Mitsu. Waja chassis is more conti-centric. So when you drive a Waja, the chassis dynamic is certainly more conti feel. Chassis dynamic has little to do with engine.

automotive engineer class in session.

if you drive like an old aunty and in town, sure Vios better to drive. Compared to Waja, Vios is light (because it's a milo can), agile and very responsive. But if you take it on highway high speed and fast cornering, only then you know how does a conti feels. So you an old aunty and never driven on highway?

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Sep 16 2012, 12:53 PM

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This post has been edited by replymela: Sep 16 2012, 12:54 PM

well means jap brand can also be conti centric.. so what's your point? yeah used to have a Waja X in the house hold, while handling is good, ride vibration harshness was bad.. so is that supposed to be good? as opposed to real contis, where there is good handling with good NVH as well..

vios is more reliable compared to campro waja breaking down everytime and power window cant work

yes got engineers here..

I am saying Waja's handling is better or chassis dynamic is better than Vios. In other words, the driving feel is more conti-like. Generally speaking, when people said "feel of a car", they refers to chassis dynamic. Less about NVH or reliability or whether power window break or not etc.

So are you saying Vios high speed driving and conerning is as good as Waja? If yes, then that is the 1st time someone saying that.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Sep 16 2012, 12:57 PM

pls dont confuse me with the other vios owner here..

compared with the french pug that i had 6years ago, well waja is no where near that...

It may be no where near your Pug but still nearer to a conti than a Jap. Everything is relative. Anyone who have drive waja, conti and Jap can tell you that. I am refering to the way the car handle.

test drive only no use, how about daily ownership to compare more closely.. in terms of handling waja lose to my rx8, accord and in conti side, no where near my 407.. so how?

people dont just talk about ride, what about the interior feel? solid door closing too