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TSxetajones
post Feb 13 2006, 08:09 PM, updated 20y ago

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Have a problem when working with different monitors. When on CRT the colour seems to be lively but when working on LCD colours turn out dull. Is there a way to calibrate monitors to make sure that the colour you use on monitors are as close the one you are printing and producing.
Is there a way to make sure the colours does not run when i change stations?

Heard that a certain Epson model printer can print as close as offset printers. Is that true?

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post Feb 13 2006, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(xetajones @ Feb 13 2006, 08:09 PM)
Have a problem when working with different monitors. When on CRT the colour seems to be lively but when working on LCD colours turn out dull. Is there a way to calibrate monitors to make sure that the colour you use on monitors are as close the one you are printing and producing.
Is there a way to make sure the colours does not run when i change stations?

Heard that a certain Epson model printer can print as close as offset printers. Is that true?
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LCD monitors turn dull is not because of its color. Its because the surface of LCD monitors tend to reflect back lights that falls on it, hence you'll see dull matt views on it. try using in a dark or no so much light disturbance area and you'll see the difference.

Calibrating monitors will take some time to be be perfect. Mine took almost two years but stiil there are some problems with it. And you need to check the monitor time to time to make sure the colors are consistant. Never trust your monitor 100%. try to get used to the color that you are using like CYMK or RGB. It will be more safer. Colors definitely will run when you change stations unless they all have the same settings. Not only Epson, some HP printers also could print out as close as offset printers. Try getting a printer with 4 basic color tanks - black, cyan, magenta and yellow. These are the basic colors for offset printing. Colors will be nice with printers that have 6 or more ink catridges but they are not accurate smile.gif

BTW try not to use canon printers - their colors are too dark
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I notice that we can save colour profile or load colour profile in the colour management section. Will this help in making sure the colours as accurate as possible when you switch stations? Will the adobe gamma help in this area in calibrating?

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post Feb 14 2006, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(xetajones @ Feb 13 2006, 09:13 PM)
I notice that we can save colour profile or load colour profile in the colour management section. Will this help in making sure the colours as accurate as possible when you switch stations? Will the adobe gamma help in this area in calibrating?
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If you are using the same brand of monitor, YES -but you still have to check the monitor settings
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post Feb 14 2006, 12:44 PM

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i oso wonder how u guys tweaking CRT monitor color?!

Pls share~

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post Feb 14 2006, 01:46 PM

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for me, black must be black. white must be white. or at least they must be close to it.

it's damn annoying when you do a nice design and people start complaining it's dark la this la that la but when you visit their machine you found out that on their monitor, white is almost halfway to black. sheeesh, no wonder dark blue and white words look damn dark to you %(&$#*%( user.

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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Feb 14 2006, 12:44 PM)
i oso wonder how u guys tweaking CRT monitor color?!

Pls share~
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Usually there will be step by step guide in your photoshop that need to use the monitors menu (brightness, contrast etc) to adjust the monitor color. Just follow their instructions.
There is also one in the Control Panel > Monitor. Jut click the color icon and choose calibrate. Follow their step by step guide. But please, dont trust your monitor's color 100%.
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post Feb 15 2006, 10:10 AM

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monitor - RGB
printer - CMYK
some industrial printers - they actually manually mix colors to get the exact color you want. smile.gif

print output also varies from printer to printer (ie Epson vs Lexmark vs Canon vs HP) and also varies from paper to paper. biggrin.gif

so even if your printer outputs same like your monitor, the print service provider may still output it a bit differently.
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The only way to properly do color calibration and color correction is to use devices like the EyeOne and it's software, which costs a bomb and proper room lighting. You basically need to create profiles for your scanner, monitor, printer and your color separator. Oh yea, you need to do it frequently as color will run.
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first off. what kind of monitor u using?
dont waste ur time on some el-cheapo monitors they cant be tweak much.
this tell u why some same size monitor cost so much more.
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dat's the way i done my COlor adjustment , Providence..thx anyway..
It won't work if ur Monitor Color profile is inaccurate.. haih~
So, best thing to do before adjust ur color profile, is to get a reliable Monitor first.

Talk bout Monitor.. I got 3 SAMSUNG CRT monitor.. All color brightness is at their own Value. It is quite annoying... Haih..

Btw, any current LCD on the market having the accuracy Color brightness closer to CRT?

U knw, when we look at it ..it is so beatiful. Save alot of desktop space..
Good for my eyes to work long-hour too.
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just do what you can and make sure you ask for color test prints... hehe
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Feb 15 2006, 11:34 AM)
Talk bout Monitor.. I got 3 SAMSUNG CRT monitor.. All color brightness is at their own Value. It is quite annoying... Haih..
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Samsung - with the black casing one? Why dont try the Sony Trinitron range. I'm using that monitor for years, although not 100% accurate but it at least the colors are consistant
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i got two Samsung 753dF & another Grey Samsung case which got three brightness mode such as TeXT, Entertaintment & (forgot)...each mode givin brighter value.

Yeah..i eye-on the SONY 17inch costing RM1450.

It looks nice sometimes... sometimes it looks dark screen ..
Aiks..

Just wanna knw any1 using this SOny model i mentioned to do design or digital coloring?!



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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Feb 15 2006, 11:34 AM)
dat's the way i done my COlor adjustment , Providence..thx anyway..
It won't work if ur Monitor Color profile is inaccurate.. haih~
So, best thing to do before adjust ur color profile, is to get a reliable Monitor first.

Talk bout Monitor.. I got 3 SAMSUNG CRT monitor.. All color brightness is at their own Value. It is quite annoying... Haih..

Btw, any current LCD on the market having the accuracy Color brightness closer to CRT?

U knw, when we look at it ..it is so beatiful. Save alot of desktop space..
Good for my eyes to work long-hour too.
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Would like to know any LCD that is close to CRT. When i colour red in CRT it would turn out pink in LCD screen or LCD projector. Any ideas or recommendations? When using CMYK colour would normally go darker. It is recommended to change the curve of the images to a brighter one b4 printing.
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post Feb 16 2006, 10:51 AM

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i donno about you guys, but my Samsung 151s is nice. red is red. it looks just as good / bright as CRT.

on the other hand my CRTs (previously) always have brightness/ contrast to the high side, some times even max.

i like to see my whites as whites, black as blacks.
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post Apr 5 2006, 05:36 PM

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I Guess the answer here is to calibrate & profile your monitor. With that done, you can get your monitor to match your print. Thus you need your printer profile too.

Feel free to give this number a call regarding digital color management from GretagMacbeth.

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post Apr 5 2006, 05:48 PM

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This is what I used to test my monitor..

they're web safe colors..

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the problem when i got my LCD was that the White and lightest wb safe grey #EEEEEE could not be differentiated. smile.gif
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Hmmm, actually good monitor will solve your problem. But do your hobby/job justified enuf for you to spend those money?

If $$$ not issue, pm me. I can get good price for quality monitor.

Currently i am using dual HP19" and Eizo R22 monitor for my main workstation. R22 as monitor for artwork. No issue with color production once calibrated. But still need to be at production to color proof if the job is critical.

Go google.
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huh.gif might as well say buy that hardware used for monitor calibration.. forgot what it's called.

anyway, just think of it this way, even if you did calibrate your monitor to your friends or to your printers.. how sure are you others will view it the same?

different printers will view it differently.. so unless you stick to 1 printer your whole life and make sure his monitor doesn't change, then will there be a time when you can stop thinking of calibrating monitors.

i think as a published/graphic designer who's involve in a lot of print should have a stronger relation with his printer so that tweaking of the works are never too tedious.

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