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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V31, Renovatio

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post Sep 27 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Sep 27 2012, 03:52 PM)
ppl want stiffer spring u want softer spring ar? laugh.gif
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there is pro and con using soft/stiff spring. the choice is individual taste, as i want softer spring because i put comfort into my priority (but stability reduce). some people prefer stiff spring because it give better stability (but less comfort, bumpy).
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post Sep 27 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 27 2012, 04:02 PM)
gogoman, u free meh? i want to feel how stiff is flx spring. u come try blm lor.


Added on September 27, 2012, 4:02 pmflx user recognised blm, fl car spec. wow!
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where are you now? you can try to take some ride with me, taking same route using your BLM first, then switch to FLX and ride at same route condition again.


Added on September 27, 2012, 4:05 pm
QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 27 2012, 04:02 PM)

Added on September 27, 2012, 4:03 pmgogoman, u got 15" rim/tyre better stick to flx spring lor.
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mine FLX 1.3 is 14" stock la... sweat.gif
else FLX SE using 15"..

This post has been edited by gogoman86: Sep 27 2012, 04:05 PM
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post Sep 27 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 27 2012, 04:07 PM)
sleep.gif u guys faster spam lar! Dun wanto be TS anymore. Boring la sleep.gif
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david, you still keeping your BLM stock spring?
thinking to switch my FLX spring to BLM because i can't take those bumpy condition anymore, i prefer comfort ride sad.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 27 2012, 04:23 PM)
I think since FLX adi revise front ARB, so softer spring will not sacrifice stability too much.

Anyway, u better confirm shock absorber too, dun know for FLX got revise or not.


Added on September 27, 2012, 4:27 pm

Got BLM change front to FL style, now got FLX change spring to BLM...maybe he is the 1st if he done it.
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that's why i need confirmation from someone who know bout the revise version.
today i sit in my friend FL, so comfort with the stock spring and absorber, but then in the afternoon he sit in my car, FLX, and he also agree with me, so bumpy and stiff... doh.gif

QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 27 2012, 04:37 PM)
I was just about to say that tongue.gif

My mileage is about the same as GGM - so it's a fair swap thumbup.gif
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let me get some info and confirmation first blush.gif

QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Sep 27 2012, 04:39 PM)
trade at perak...fair enuf~~
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thanks nickzkuso for sponsor us petrol and toll money rclxms.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 27 2012, 05:07 PM)
guguman, wanna try test this saturday or sunday? maybe saturday i go aquaria. sunday free lor. or after go aquaria we go weekend run. ok? we show to unker david and luke, we two can also go daylight run meh. lol. what am i saying.???


Added on September 27, 2012, 5:08 pm
mieza's dad found out his daughter's friends are hamsap one.  icon_question.gif
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what car you driving? BLM or FairLady?

QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Sep 27 2012, 05:11 PM)
he jelly luke and david can dating..den he want similar date oso with guguman  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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someone jelly whistling.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 27 2012, 07:25 PM)
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post Sep 28 2012, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:09 PM)
For your information, sway bar/stabilizer bar are specifically designed to work within 10% extra stiffness of the spring. For example, if both your front springs has 200kg each, then your front anti roll bar should carry 440kg weight. So, if you go for BLM spring, which possibly the front springs compress weight could reduced to 160kg each. There is possibilities that your car may not turn in to corner correctly, you may even have problem parking your car as the spring will react weirdly on the harder anti roll bar. In the long run, the stiff part of the chassis has been focused on the ARB, where the weak part will be emphasized. Sooner or later, you may have hard time to adjust your camber.

To upgrade springs from soft to hard is easier, however if you wanted to downgrade from hard to soft, that's entirely different story. So, for me/Luke to exchange spring with you isn't any problem after all, but I'm afraid it will cause you severe damage to your suspension in the future. nod.gif Your rear will have no problem taking BLM/FL spring at all, but your tail will sag and looked like going to take off anytime, just like any other BLM/FL doh.gif
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how bout if i just switch my rear spring? the front spring ok for me because the weight from engine itself compressed it. i feel the bumpy came from the rear as sitting in front won't feel much but rear passenger bump like hell doh.gif

last but not least, using BLM taxi spring for rear spring to solve the sagat, but BLM taxi spring is as stiff as FLX or softer than FL spring?

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 27 2012, 10:11 PM)
actually, most of the bumpyness is caused by the shocks, not the springs. The springs is only stiffened in a small %rate, compared to BLM/FL springs.
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what u mean by shocks? hmm.gif

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post Sep 28 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Sep 28 2012, 09:44 AM)
gf says my ride bumpy, googling symptoms~ sweat.gif

blm absorber using gas type or oil type?
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i heard our gaga stock absorber using gas base and one of the factor lead to bumpy ride hmm.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 28 2012, 10:09 AM)
Standard shock is oil base. After 2-3 years usage, oil seal is weaken and will leak hydraulic fluid. Ride become bumpy and floating on highspeed.

Difference between oil/gas:
oil base
1) Suction base. It pull the weight of the chassis down.
2) Comfortable
3) More expansive compare to gas base

gas base
1) Reject base. It extend up to the spring tolerence, forcing the spring to work at maximum force. Very sportty and accurate feedback on high speed cornering.
2) Can cause vomit. Bumpy ride.
3) Cheaper than gas base
4) If it fail, no physical symptom to inspect. But the whole car will sway like Shakira, very dangerous.

My front will always go for oil, and my rear will be gas. Gas is cheaper anyway.
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ok, time for my action, rear spring change to taxi blm spring and rear absorber change to oil base... kao tim icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 28 2012, 09:59 PM)
serious? blink.gif
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if that taxi blm spring is same stiff as FL or most importantly softer than FLX stock spring, then shouldn't be problem...
i worry what david told me, changing just rear spring to BLM/FL stock spring, it will become sagat... sweat.gif
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post Sep 28 2012, 10:11 PM

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maybe not changing the spring, just changing the absorber will solve my bumpy problem.
found this at Lelong : KW Front & Rear Comfort Shock Absorber for Saga 1.3/1.5.
it listed there :
-Ensure a smooth, comfortable ride.


Added on September 28, 2012, 10:12 pm
QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 28 2012, 10:10 PM)
hmmm...stock spring will sagat if u overload ur ride or changed the tyre size bigger. but taxi spring is 1 coil higher than stock, and twice as hard as stock. hmm.gif  unless u dare to cut the spring half round
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i still can't confirm what is the factor causing our ride so bumpy. dunno it caused by the spring or absorber..

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post Sep 29 2012, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 28 2012, 11:14 PM)
so if it is a 4 lane way, 3rd lane got big lorry, optimus prime that type, ngam ngam pass the camera, then i potong from 4th lane with high speed..for sure camera wont get me, no? brows.gif

macamlah everytime got such peluang.
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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 28 2012, 11:16 PM)
Abang the camera take front picture from far far away wei. if you speed beside the lorry, it will have a nice picture of you sitting in your car with your dulan face, speeding beside the lorry. The lorry on the next lane won't block it  laugh.gif
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what SiuYi said is truth, at Puchong-Kajang 6.6KM SILK, the AES put too near to the road sensor, and if there is a lorry at middle lane, speeding at fast lane is safe because camera being blocked by that lorry.
don't know about others AES because haven't seen any other.

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Sep 29 2012, 08:46 AM)
guys, speed camera also will take ur butt plate number...

my own experience from cheras to summit usj...

my 1st and only summon from speed trap...
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AES only shoot the front image, but mobile type, depend on that pulismen whether he want to shoot the front or butt..
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post Oct 1 2012, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 30 2012, 10:53 PM)
Guguman, forget about BLM or FLX springs, terus go for this!!

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/fea...ve-dampers.html

brows.gif  brows.gif
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you want sponsor me? brows.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Sep 30 2012, 10:57 PM)
Guguman sell so many enduroshield....he can afford wan  brows.gif
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 30 2012, 10:58 PM)
can sponsor us each 1 set also...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 30 2012, 11:12 PM)
If guguman sponsor RCS then will be completely cured  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 30 2012, 11:14 PM)
lols... get well soon ya ! If guguman sponsor RCS i buy 100 T10 LED for him also no problem liao... LOL !
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what is all this sxxt?? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Oct 1 2012, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(kurz @ Oct 1 2012, 10:18 AM)
so far damansara-gombak 2 times trip very syiok!
mine is 1.3 exec manual

read the manual and unlike cvt which they advise to go below 90km/h b4 1st service, mine can go 110! thumbup.gif
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congratulation for joining gaga thread thumbup.gif

QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Oct 1 2012, 10:33 AM)
good morning
hehe. dude, 3 days after get car, i've reach 120kmh
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 1 2012, 10:37 AM)
hehe.dude, 3 days after get car, i`ve reach 180kmh
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increasing.. but dares reach 200kmh at 1st day after he got into his new car laugh.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 1 2012, 11:47 AM)
3 days? hmm.gif first day after I got my car ... ... I flip my wiper to 3x speed when I wanna turn right sad.gif
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very common case for everyone here tongue.gif

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post Oct 1 2012, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 1 2012, 12:36 PM)
you're not first owner, doesn't count  whistling.gif
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yea, doesn't count whistling.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Oct 1 2012, 12:36 PM)
Yep, I WOT my car out of the showroom floor, by the time reach the kaki lima outside is 200km/h, then terus fly into the old town restaurant opposite the showroom.  flex.gif  flex.gif
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fly into old town restaurant then? come out from the other side? just like action movie hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 1 2012, 12:45 PM)
Hastala vista, baby  cool2.gif

btw did you get my PM?
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sure, sad to say, but no problem blush.gif
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QUOTE(aakish77 @ Oct 1 2012, 12:46 PM)
I guess proton cars are inspired by  Conti specs. Such as wipers lever and fuel tank on the right.
Btw Dares, as you were saying earlier about the insulflex, do you need to do it on your own or is there a specific shop you guys go to?
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dares install insulflex by himself, DIY.. brows.gif
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post Oct 1 2012, 02:17 PM

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next TS:
1) dares - 2 votes
2) gpmm - 1 vote
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post Oct 1 2012, 02:27 PM

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Next TS :
1) dares - 3 votes
2) GPMM - 2 votes
3) zeone - 1 vote (dares not counted in as he already vote for GPMM)
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post Oct 1 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 1 2012, 02:29 PM)
dares. you just be a TS lah. susah susah sangat. haha
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ya ya, me also vote for dares, so latest vote for now is :
Next TS :
1) dares - 4 votes
2) GPMM - 2 votes
3) zeone - 1 vote (dares not counted in as he already vote for GPMM)
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i can sense the next thread is in the making progress now... got 'bau' from dares... hahahahaha

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