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 °°Official LYN Toyota Prius C Owners/Fans V2°°

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post Oct 29 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(engah @ Jul 9 2012, 11:55 AM)
Making some progress in FC over the last 3 months. I have traveled 593km, and still have 4bar+ of petrol (shown as 5 bars)

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October is coming to the end. The FC rate for my PC looks consistent over the past 4 months, except August (fasting month). On the top is the FC rate for today, from office to home.

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post Oct 30 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(timeonce @ Oct 30 2012, 08:35 AM)
Wow.. nice engah... i always come to envy seeing your FC.. Make me feel shame of how to improve it more TT
Timeonce,

When driving alone, I normally feel bored. So, this FC rate is the only "game" that makes my driving interesting. Frankly, if I have passenger(s), I will not pay attention to the FC rate at all. So I only achieve >30km/l when driving to and fro office (mainly expressway). For other trips, normally around 25km/l.


Added on October 30, 2012, 10:13 am
QUOTE(blu3hamm3r @ Oct 30 2012, 09:35 AM)
Just get my Prius C yesterday!! Feel so excited when i start the engine with push start button. Wonder the car alrdy start the engine or not...bcos...it is really too quiet! Haha........ really love it so much!
Nice car and nice number biggrin.gif

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post Oct 30 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(louis198920 @ Oct 30 2012, 01:06 PM)
guys, do you all use the steering wheel lock or any similar security measure for your PC ? just wondering whether I should invest in one for safety reason =/
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Yes, I do, I have a steering-brake Solex lock.

Better to have a visible lock to deter any breaking in attempt
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post Nov 1 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Nov 1 2012, 08:20 PM)
arghhhhhhhhhh

im torn between this car and honda jazz

both is really really nice car
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Jazz has no spare tyre. You need to repair yourself using the repair kit. If your tyre has a big cut, don't think you can repair.
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post Nov 2 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(aragongon @ Nov 1 2012, 11:28 PM)
With 5k discount, PC is now same price as Jazz. And dude, we don't rev PC often. You never try driving 140km/h on the wet road, you will be amazed how stable and silent PC is. I don't encourage you to speed here.  laugh.gif

The petrol engine at Jazz is on ALL THE TIME, of course you don't hear the big difference like PC. PC petrol engine doesn't run all the time, and its 1.5L, can give in power anytime you want. Therefore it is Honda hybrid average is 18km/h while PC is average 22km/h. With 4 km difference, PC can roughly go extra 120km per full tank pump.

So you got extra 1200km after 10 pumps, and how many times you pump petrol in a year? You tell me.  nod.gif
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You are right.

For example, the car can run >50% of the distance on EV mode, petrol is not needed most of the time. That's how a good fuel efficiency is achieved. In this example here, 65% on EV mode... biggrin.gif

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post Nov 4 2012, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(aragongon @ Nov 4 2012, 02:31 AM)
Ran over a ditch tonight at Mex highway during heavy rain, following a iswara in front and tire burst! Luckily air bags didn't jump out. Have to stop by a rest station to change tire under the rain. Luckily keanutan and others told me that the jack is under passenger seat. Thanks guys!!  thumbup.gif

So far no damage on car body. But worry got damage on bottom of the car or suspension, other than bring back SC, how to check?

Hopefully I am not the first one who change a PC tire in Malaysia. If I am the first one, the spare tire is damn heavy!!

Now I pity the Jazz Hybrid driver, I would have waited for tow truck if I am driving Jazz Hybrid.
Sorry to read about the incident.

Most likely the alignment is out
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post Nov 5 2012, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(ZaRR @ Nov 5 2012, 07:44 PM)
Hi all,

Currently I'm using Toyota SEG 1.6M year 1999, since it is quite old, there are lot of noise in cabin, wear and tear everywhere, and not a comfortable ride enough for me. So, I went to test drive 5 cars recently, H City, H jazz Hybrid, Vios, Prius C and Elantra. Jazz and Elantra already dropped from the list.

So right now I am considering either:
1. Prius C (97k)
2. Vios G Limited (88k)
3. H City E (91k)

You can get a 5K discount for PC. So, the price is now 92K only
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post Nov 6 2012, 12:32 PM

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Stuck in the jam before Central Sugar Shah Alam for 1hr. Took me 1hr 41 min to reach home, instead of 30min. FC rate was 22km/l. Speed 13km/hr. My worst record
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post Nov 6 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(ZaRR @ Nov 6 2012, 03:38 PM)
finally, finished reading all pages in this v2 topic. huhuhu...
info regarding comparison between pc and vios performance, some said pc better and some said vios better. so, i just assume both are about the same, might felt differ due to individual factors.

one more aspect i didnt find anyone discussing it (or maybe i missed it), between vios and PC, which one is more silent in cabin, and which one is better handling at both cornering and highway high speed cruising?
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Safety first, others secondary. Vios has no traction control and no stability control, only 1-2 airbags. Find out yourself how these can save life. Engine performance wise,
Max torque:
Vios = 141Nm
Altis 1.8= 173Nm
PC = 169 Nm

Performance wise, PC is about the same as Ailtis 1.8, provided the battery is sufficiently charged, other wise, it is just like Vios, I.e 1.5 litre engine
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post Nov 7 2012, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(deeplydeluded @ Nov 7 2012, 01:02 PM)
Boys, airbags are useless without seatbelts. Seatbelt holds you in position so that airbag can absorb your impact efficiently. SRS = SUPPLEMENTAL restraint system, means seatbelt is still the primary.
Means, driving a PC without buckling up is more dangerous than driving a Proton Wira buckled in unavoidable accidents.
Please watch the crash test and see for yourselves if airbags are really useless. I have posted this video link before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HEhX-5K4o


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post Nov 7 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(keanutan @ Nov 7 2012, 08:37 PM)
engah i think what he mean is driving a car with air bag but at the same times didnt buckle the safety belt .. is useless
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Those who refuse to buckle up their seat should not drive at all. This is a given thing.
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post Nov 9 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(deckbuild @ Nov 9 2012, 08:37 AM)
Hi, after my first servicing, my FC from from 28 to 25, same route same condition, anyone experience the same thing? I suspect they put W30 oil in instead of W20.
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For me, I did not see any difference after 1st and 2nd services. I have posted my FC rate since day 1 (April) earlier. I will go for my 3rd service next week.
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post Nov 19 2012, 04:04 PM

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Went for my 3rd service after doing 10k km (7months) last Friday. Waited for 5 hours to get it done, could be due to staff on leave. Will not go during holiday season next time. Opted for fully synthetic oil. Including alignment plus balancing, the bill was RM397.50. Overall FC rate stands at 27.5km/l for 10k km.
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post Nov 20 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(aragongon @ Nov 19 2012, 10:45 PM)

27.5km/l for 10k km?  shakehead.gif  It means every full tank you can travel 1000km!
I managed to get 22.1km/l only for 3k km so far.
Next time if we meet again, if you are willing, please sit in my car teach me how you drive, ok?
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QUOTE(timeonce @ Nov 20 2012, 07:19 AM)
Wow... mine to date is only 19.7km/l for 4650km. As when going home stuck in jam for one hour and half and fc down to 10 to 14km/l . TT

Do let us know the performance of fully synthetic oil engah.
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To aragongon & timeonce,

No problem.

The FC rate seems to be about the same with the Fully Synthetic oil.

In my case, the FC rate displayed is normally 1km/l more than the actual rate.

Yesterday, I started with 4 bars of battery power (managed to go for about 0.5km EV from the start) and drove 'normally' to office. The FC rate was 30km/l for a distance of 20km. This morning, I started with 2 bars of battery power (almost no EV from the start) and tried 'hypermiling', the rate was 33.2km/l. So the difference here is slightly more than 10% in FC rate.

During my third service, I requested my hand brake to be loosened a bit since someone in this forum commented about the effects of tight hand brake on the FC rate, although the SC guy tested it and said it was 'normal'. They adjusted it slightly for me anyway. Now it can go up to 6 clicks. Occasionally, there are some subtle noises around the passenger door but I did not complain as they 'come and go', very difficult to 'prove'

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post Nov 20 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(louis198920 @ Nov 20 2012, 09:11 AM)
i still don really get the hypermiling thing =/ when do we start gliding? around 60km/h ? or higher?
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You can glide at any speed. For me, I normally do it when going down a slope so that the speed will not reduce significantly.
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post Nov 20 2012, 09:12 PM

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Added on November 20, 2012, 7:06 pm
Yup metal hydrate batt is heavy. Hope there is lithium ion batt for replacement when its time for replacement. At least the car will be a bit lighter. I guess ....
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I saw on YouTube 1 Italian changed his Prius's battery to Li-ion type and converted into a plug in hybrid. May be it is easier to do this in advanced countries
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post Nov 21 2012, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(timeonce @ Nov 21 2012, 07:07 AM)
Haha... tried it yesterday and dont work. Will go see SC this coming friday and ask them how come no light come out one.

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Tried for the first time while stopped on a slope yesterday, did not work because I was a bit reluctant to press the brake really hard. Second time, I pressed the brake really hard to the bottom, it worked! Tried for the third time, and it worked again! So, I have no doubt that the system is in place.

So, timeonce, you need to press the brake really hard to the bottom. I know that you could be worried about spoiling the brake. (Actually it is using a hydraulic pump, so it will not break)


Added on November 21, 2012, 8:21 am
QUOTE(kasumen @ Nov 20 2012, 10:20 PM)
The 27.5km/l is coming from the multi information display screen or per your manual calculation?
Based on my trip meter B, which I have not reset since I received the car. The actual FC rate based on my manual calculation is about 1km/l lower than that of the trip meter. [Could be due to evaporation from the tank?]

BTW, after clocking 10k, it started to count from zero again but the FC rate is still unchanged, i.e. the trip meter can not display more than 4 digits. The difference between the ODO and my trip meter B is 11km, which mean the car had been used for 11km at the time I recieved it.


Added on November 21, 2012, 8:33 am
QUOTE(engah @ Nov 20 2012, 09:12 PM)
I saw on YouTube 1 Italian changed his Prius's battery to Li-ion type and converted into a plug in hybrid. May be it is easier to do this in advanced countries
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Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNcJ2acVOX8...ember_128470857

He was getting 50km/l after conversion.

You can access to this if you have a linkedin account:

http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&gi...ck=%2Egmp_76809



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post Nov 22 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldwmh @ Nov 22 2012, 09:59 AM)
Actually oversea there are battery swap station, 75sec, will swap your battery, but i'm not sure what kind of package n service they provide. And there is also an extreme charge oversea, 5mins charge 80%.
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Yes, I have seen this on TV. Isreal is one of them practising this. This is more practical than charging ourselves. The battery should be checked before charging and any mulfunctioned ones should be removed and cost borne by Nissan. With this system, I am sure more consumers will consider buying the full electrical car.
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post Nov 22 2012, 04:24 PM

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When I walked in the Kota Damansara show room in Feb, nobody bother to entertain me. I walked out and went back after 15min, still no SA wanted to attend to me. At the end, I walked to an agent and told him that I wanted to book the car and paid the deposit (before launching). I did not ask any question because I have done all my home work.
If Toyota's service remains like this, very soon it will be like today's Proton. Proton's service used to be like this 20years ago. Frankly, I do not feel like buying another Toyota in the future
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post Nov 23 2012, 03:11 PM

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Rattling (front) and squeaking (back) sounds, yes. Sent for repair in July and posted in this forum.
Smell, yes, mine is a kind of sour smell, like those silicone glues. Forgot to complain. Normally I wind down the window and turn on the fan before using the air cond.
Currently, I still have some noise, seems to be from the glove box. When I open the glove box, the. noise disappears but the vibration noise of the glove box latch appears

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