if they nerf barb - wotb , then how to counter frozen , nightmarish and jailer affix ? barb unlike dh , monk and WD got their own power to break CC , if they nerf this time soon they will buff it again

I won't say other class can kill faster, they just have a quite balance power.

If there is a need of buff, it should be given to WD and Wiz.

DH is not exactly weak, way far from the worst class.
Bola/spike trap are really powerful. Killing bulk easily.
Sentry+gloom, makes you better tanker than melee heroes.
2890 said he recorded the same killing time as HOTA barbs @ MP10. It can't be weak.

The nerf on WoTB is something like nerfing night stalker + gloom on DH. 

Bola/spike = 0 mobilitly, fail for efficient farming. Sorry to say. Anyway, yeah.. WOTB is the backbone of all barbs and nerfing it would leave barb paralyze

Use it against you?
I think you think too much. 

Kongor said this EF he bought for 25B http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/28860218 

Hmmm... I find it quite strange as your APS seems to be sufficient. I'm sure you're hitting 2.5BP. I don't have problems with any affixes even plague/desecrator/arcane/molten even with only 520AR but then again, my APS buffed is above 3.0 and I'm generating 10 ticks for both hands. I think the lower your AR the more APS you should have but I think it shouldn't be a problem to you.

Sorry, WW doesn't involve standing. I'm sure you understand the mechanics

Sorry, WW doesn't involve standing. I'm sure you understand the mechanics. Maybe plvl30 on a barb would not make you understand what having 2.8bp and 500AR on barb means. Also, not implying i'm not taking damage but DTWW at 2.8bp gives double the fury and hp regen. Read up on the barbs WW mechanics 1st?

lol.. i always do that 

Sorry, WW doesn't involve standing. I'm sure you understand the mechanics. Maybe plvl30 on a barb would not make you understand what having 2.8bp and 500AR on barb means. Also, not implying i'm not taking damage but DTWW at 2.8bp gives double the fury and hp regen. Read up on the barbs WW mechanics 1st? Yes waller might be the only problem but there's always the option of kiting them to open areas.

Running around is what WW is unless you're delusional and thinking they stand and do nothing. You don't generate fury by not moving. I'm not running WWHota build. Since you decided to post your thoughts, I'm assuming you actually understood WW mechanics and further to that, I don't have a problem with said affixes does not imply I don't take damage. Maybe brush up yours instead?

For white trash mobs    Gotcha

Well I won't argue with mr. know it all but I will have to say that I do not need to read or comprehend better because :

1. You're not rolling a full on barb
2. i had ZERO knowledge about your so called breakpoints or mechanics<---- this
3.  i don't understand what your breakpoints mean <---- this as well
4. Try standing on plague, desc or arcane. Something like that and see how you fare. <----- and this since the original topic we were discussing was skorn vs. DW WW not Hota or whatever we do 

Oh my someone's mad and talking about Kongor.   

Wow so many posts and healthy discussion here, btw what's the breakpoint to judge whether a barb is "full on" or not?

no one here is throwing the offensive line..just frenly helpful advise...(btw..thx Deck)... if to you skill complexity, expensive gearing and gameplay challenge of a certain class determines the eliteness of the player..so be it sir, but why the need to harp and keep on expressing your anger and eliteness toward the LYN barb community, i haven't seen anyone here from Lyn with the attitude u mentioned before, even with all the statement, seems the players here still replies with a good and well manner behavior. perhaps in Europe the or maybe most of the AngMoh barb players tend to have the said attitude that u claim, but it doesn't seem to be here in this lovely LYN community.

Well, the above statement seems to be an implication that you know about barbs as per your understanding? No one's being harsh towards you. Merely suggesting doesn't read like this

how about you stand on plague and those nasty affix then tell me you don't have problem. LOL

spinning around them doesn't imply that you can deal with it because you barely receive any damage from it.

This is more like a statement rather then a challenge when clearly I was just suggesting something to HaruanX and not implying that we are all uber barbs on eazymode. I have no ill feelings towards you but maybe it's the way you posted it that made it seem hostile.

play on EU server as demon hunter.. and bising2 at US server to barb player.. what the fish!! why take so serious about diablo in ur life macha? u can roll what ever class u want. what does barb do in your life until u hate them so much? 

My barb reached 200K damage unbuffed!!  but the def now just left 6669 with 47k hp. Will the def too low for a barb?