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post Apr 18 2013, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Apr 18 2013, 08:54 AM)
sweat.gif heh..i'm realy surprise at players collecting DEs up till the thousands or them players that keeping/collecting the bulk of the DEs saying they aint got anything to craft (reading in Blizz Forum & Reddit)....man...i wish i had them thousands of DEs, everytime my craft batch is around 30-40 DEs, no solid luck yet on crafting, only 2 low trifec ammy & 1 ok-ok bifec that i'm wearing, no trifec glove yet only 2-3 bifec with no AR (last time got but accident happen) & No champion STR/VIT shoulder with %HP...for Bracer & Armor..havent begin yet...

feel like stealing wlcling luck on crafting  hmm.gif that fella always champion luck man
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no le... my luck is one hit wonder only hohoho

not sure if i have u on friendlist but lets do de farming and crafting... find it fun to craft eq and laugh about the absurd stats of some rolls especially chest armor with damned DH bonus skills!

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post Apr 18 2013, 09:02 PM

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3 different 2 set combos biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Apr 19 2013, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Apr 18 2013, 11:51 PM)
bul kathos +180str =D
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cannot that one drop dps badly tongue.gif

the blackthornes increase my life by 10k and reduce dps by 10k (compared to ik chest and inna pants)

certainly a good investment for barbs... so cheap they are too!
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post Apr 19 2013, 03:16 AM

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basically cheap gearing hehe..of course it may not be best gearing but just having some fun changing costumes keeping in mind i am using skorn and trying to maximize rend farming build with low focus on aps but instead on cc and cd.

my trifecta priorities:-
low aps - not too important for rend build so have neglected this (budget barb ma)
high cc - important for rend build to crit those rends and get better fury regen for ww since i also have low aps
high cd - complement the high cc

ik combo - helm can go up to max 6cc (bis mempo but 6cc mempo too expensive). cheap belt with ls and decent main stats so that no need to spend too much on ls skorn. together gives +60ar!

blackthornes combo - chest and pants. great for ehp and surprisingly cheap! an easy 200k ehp boost (in my case) with only 10k dps lost compared to ik chest and innas pants (cheaper combo but unfortunately losing the pants movespeed bonus and the ias)

nats combo - ring goes up to 6cc (but ok this is a little expensive) and boots can get a 100 str 100 vit roll that is not too expnsive. importantly more cc bonus! and also 12% move speed bonus from boots is great

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post Apr 19 2013, 03:23 AM

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interestingly however now when i activate wotb, overpower, and brawler my sheet dps only 450k now.. (it was 550k earlier)... shoot.. wonder if it was partly because of my change to socket my skorn with ruby instead of emerald.
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post Apr 19 2013, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 19 2013, 03:31 AM)
assuming rend style works like archon where AS is not important, stacking tons of average damage will be much much better.

Try to go for rings that have high average damage. I think average damage should be your priority followed by CHD. If you wanna deal real damage, go find rings such as unity and wailing host. 4% bonus against elites on each. Find one with avg dmg, CC and CHD.

don't be fooled by the damage gain from AS weapons. Trust me on this cuz i've played a DH after all =P

oh emeralds will always be better for every class except the DH where they have too much CHD.
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thanks!not sure how archon wiz works but in existing gear seen in d3up each str point will give me +77dps. each minimum or max dmg affix will give me +66 dps so i decided that avg dmg on gear doesnt seem attractive? smile.gif

+1 Primary Stat 77.28
+1% Crit Hit 2,368.93
+1% Crit Hit Dmg 347.73
+1 Minimum Dmg 66.52
+1 Maximum Dmg 66.52
+1% Attack Speed 1,806.53
+1% Elemental Damage 1,942.87

since i am a 1.2 to 1.3 aps barb, would be curious to know how the breakdown looks for the higher aps

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post Apr 20 2013, 02:41 AM

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any barb with a soj -4 or -5 to hota can borrow for a test run? wink.gif
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post Apr 20 2013, 01:01 PM

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remove thrive on insanity but reduce cooldown to 30s. hehehe...
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post Apr 20 2013, 02:51 PM

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dont be too worried about it.. another blanket statement just like earlier ones made which they wanted to improve Dh's grenade skill... wont be changed for a long long time
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post Apr 21 2013, 11:27 PM

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soj with -hota rocks!!
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post Apr 22 2013, 04:38 PM

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yup its my most exoensice item on my barb.. summore with no billion dollar stash, can only afford a 26% bonus to elite and non cold soj
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post Apr 22 2013, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Apr 22 2013, 05:49 PM)
yes we can, insanity also nice  icon_idea.gif
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yes yes.. nerf toc but overall reduce the 2min cooldown la.... 30s sounds good hehe
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post Apr 24 2013, 03:42 PM

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one soj with -5 hota good enough for unlimited smash already(at max fury). using -4 and it does the trick ok...
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post Apr 29 2013, 03:23 PM

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going from skorn build to dw.. sheet dps lose 40k dps but sheet dps can get net gain 40k dps instead since wotb uptime is much better smile.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Apr 29 2013, 04:09 PM)
Farming mp10 , I say skorn ftw just my own view
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so far even on mp10 i see skorn only doable on dense mobs areas and doing solo otherwise you lose out on wotb pretty easily.. if team games 4 players and you have barbs wwing around the creeps and scattering them then lagi worse ..

and then i also saw the ww breakpoints and noticed with dw and wotb i would be doing 100% more ticks with each tornado.. so actually now i know why ppl call skorn as paper dps hehe

i guess u r doing fine bcos u have good aps!

QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Apr 29 2013, 06:07 PM)
Everybody please...
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I think we're here because we share the same interest for the game and passionate enough to care hence discuss bout game mechanics, build, gearing etc. Don't need to bring out cannon firing all... let's continue with constructive discussion thumbup.gif

Can I get some feedback on how you guys get LS and how many % is sufficient for life replenishment? Please state whether your barb get LS from mighty belt, passive skill or main/off/2-hand weapon... which MP you're normally running with that amount of LS... and other life replenishment stats you might have. TQ~ rclxms.gif
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your barb damn pro la... still need feedback hehe.. anyway i run on just ls on belt... on whatever mp without loh.

for RD sure tough but then rend lifesteal to rescue... the only issue for those who stack ias is that the rend wont be so effective and not enough to cover the RD... so i just dual wield... stack str high, cc, chd and least important is ias

my build now which i feel i cant live without rend bloodlust... passive maybe can take extra 3%ls but i feel mp10 ok so far unless too poisony or too arcany
http://d3up.com/b/567970
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post Apr 29 2013, 08:20 PM

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if wotb nerf then go back to skorn lo... haha.. i dont mind... just reduce the cooldown as well. 1 min cooldown will do hehe
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post Apr 29 2013, 10:37 PM

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if barbs have to use shield then the other classes will sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 11:50 PM

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cheer83.. do you use bash or frenzy for fury? or rely on ww? lets say single target
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post Apr 30 2013, 01:20 PM

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after being used to wwhotarend build with ww on left mouse click.. now try left click frenzy and rightclick hota or ww.... wow in a mess!
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post Apr 30 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 30 2013, 01:28 PM)
I see they use no fury generator build with WW,HOTA, REND that means no primary attack with bash, cleave or frenzy.. susah worrr... yeah hit few times and kena hit then battle rage and WW but when try, fuh... sometimes mati oso.. not to mention have to control fury to make sure after kill Elite still got fury to sprint. Some more want to maintain WOTB.. this one really need lots of practise to get used to..
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yah thats why i find it so hard to get wotb active with skorn. can only depend on slow ww ticks for fury. but now want to add back a main attk fury generator my fingers cannot coordinate already... lol now just do dw but stick with wwhotarend combo...the ww easy to generate fury..

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