from my untrained eyes, usually a good circulation involves multiple ring roads around the mall.
MV is a very good example. plenty of highways weaving in and out top and bottom. plenty of entrance and exit points.
empire city is supposedly being model close to MV concept in terms of circulation.

sterling mall @ DU is another good example. similiar to klcc where you get access to the car park straight from a major highway. eg. akleh to klcc, ldp to sterling.
not only that, a good mall must design to cater to potential long queues incoming and outgoing.
paradigm mall did an astounding good job in their access too. i would have thought it would failed miserably with the jams at ldp too. but they did a great job at the basement linkages to opposite the road and also circle ring road both elevated and bottom.

as for tropicana gardens, i have no idea. but reckon it is a bit tough as they are restricted by the golf course behind and the mrt in front. tunneling works are limited.

Yeap this is also my observation elsewhere.. the normal RM5-12 makan still doing very well n ppl still eating out but cut down on premium makan.. Do u think business here will get better after the MRT is ready? 

In the gloomy market dont get caught with the most expensive condos in the neighborhood 😜

DPC is a nice place to stay but the maintenance fee is.... 

Means, phase 3 and phase 4 buyers most likely will not profit?

To have a better understanding, re Phase 1, how much $ and % gain are we talking about for each size?

1) Studio
2) 2-bedder
3) 3-bedder

Cascades residence 600sq.ft. is renting 1.5k p.m.

21+ is still damn high.

Other than the final 2 for ex-purchasers, the rest applies to all... so 18+ - ho yeah!

HI tkyong1,

I do not know about dianthus comparing to bayberry as i was a late comer to tropicana gardens.
However,wat i remember,d 2 bedroom 983sf unit in cyperus available during  tat time was at level 38 which is more premium by 40k,d SNP price was rm1.3m and after rebates came to rm 1.06m.Cyperus lowest 2 bedroom unit starts from 1.19m with rebates 5+3+2+Tpc special rebates for full furnished,bare unit has even more rebates.
Now looking at Dianthus pricing for lowest floor starts from 1.52m and after rebates it's still 1.22m
IF i hv proceed with d purchase of level 38 cyperus unit then i will b smiling now...its otherwise right now..

Looking good.

4 more years to decide KD's fate.

End 2019.. Probably take a year or two to fill up..

Nope, 1200psf after discount for 1+1 BR whilst 2BR will be pushing 1300 psf after discount.

Nope, 1200psf after discount for 1+1 BR whilst 2BR will be pushing 1300 psf after discount.

this is the rule of the world ah bro.

honda accord 2.4 selling 170k ppl buy
m benz 2.4 selling  300k ppl buy

same theory lo, same 2.4 different price, same apply to property...really cannot compare it is all about location, location and dd and ss.

As long as the take up rate can up to 70% within 24 months from the launching date then the price is at the right position.

How come?

Not entirely true la...
Lots of stuff can be negotiated...

Eg. Sub sale one can also give free legal fees, if the buyer can absorb...

Will the subsales property will sell below his/her purchase price? They are also buying from developer right? Developer successful selling price will be the latest value or new benchmark of the project.