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cybermaster98
post Mar 18 2013, 01:13 PM

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Another warning:

http://www.kinibiz.com/story/finance/9482/...-east-asia.html

http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-ma...in-2013-analyst


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post Mar 18 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ Mar 18 2013, 01:23 PM)
Any seasoned property owner knows those stickers mean nothing.

When I was looking at Dsara Twins almost two years back in 2011 Henry Butcher also had a big cardboard placard with stickers all over to show how many units being "snapped up by buyers".

Mar 2013 I believe you still can find units for sale from the developer, two years later. Probably with bigger discount too. And twins isn't even >1000psf.
Yup. Typical developer trick. But some developers actually have 2 separate stickers with 1 for confirmed purchases and another for units with loans being processed. but many developers purposely block out the better units while showing unpopular units are being available to push buyers into buying them first before opening up other units.

Typical!
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post Mar 18 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(asmabadr @ Mar 18 2013, 02:22 PM)
Hi,

Agreed the specifications reflects RM1000 per square feet! Better than a lot of other "luxury development"

Congrats buyers!

some of the specs are as follows :-

Interior Features
Gourmet Kitchens from Gaggenau
•Granite countertops with 6 color selections to choose from
*Note* Special-order granite colors are also available.
•Kitchen sink from Mielle or Han Grohe is per plan specs using finishes such as copper, bronze, nickel or stainless steel
•Cabinets are built to plan specs with customer’s choice of finish type Master Bathroom

Bathrooms
•Finished flooring per plan specs using materials such as natural stone, marble or ceramic tile
•Tubs are placed per plan specs, offering a choice of jetted tubs, garden tubs and free-standing tubs
•Rain Showers are built per plan specs using ceramic tile or marble wall coverings with either “open” or glass enclosure style designs
•Vanity tops are granite
•Vanity cabinets are built per specs and customer’s choice of finish
Living Room
•coffered ceilings
•heavy crown molding
•wainscoting
•wide window and door casings
•arch moldings
•hardwood wall panels with natural timber
•built-in cabinetry

Materials used
•Hardwood species in oak, cypress, heart pine, hickory, chestnut, mahogany and zebrawood
•Natural stone
•Marble
•Sile stone
•Ceramic tile (washing area only)
I have no regrets! Thks! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
Let me tell u a story.

A developer had 2 choices in general for their new development. First would be to offer normal fittings and price the development lower. Second option would be to bulk purchase all these higher end fittings (which would make it about 20% cheaper for the developer) and get them 'force fitted' into the units and then use the 'high end' tag to increase property prices by 30% as compared to Option 1. In the end the developer chose Option 2 and made a whopping sale.

Sound familiar? Moral of the story is that when something is given (mostly free), there's always another party getting a bigger share of the pie. And do keep in mind there is nothing free in the property market. The costs are just moved around so that unsuspecting buyers think they are getting a good deal. Same goes for all this free SPA, legal fees, etc. Do u really think the lawyer is acting on your behalf? Ure basically paying the developers lawyer to prepare docs for him which means that ure baring the legal costs on behalf of the developer. If its 'free', it just means the developer has priced the costs into the property price and ure taking a loan on this added on amount.

In the end, the developer is always the bigger winner in any new property launch. That why its important to ensure ure really getting the best deal possible. U cant beat the developer for sure but u can be a smart investor and shun properties which are ridiculously priced. Is TG one of them? You decide.

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post Mar 18 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(asmabadr @ Mar 18 2013, 03:15 PM)
Well to compare with the other "Icon-nic" development with per sq ft above RM1K, the luxury package seems more justified. i mean Gaggenau kitchen sets, mielle, grohe, don't come cheap even if bulk purchased. Better than Toto, Signature Kitchen IMHO  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
Yes thats true but when ure talking about market forces and banking systems, i doubt the Gaggenau kitchen sets would hold up the property price much.

http://www.asianewsnet.net/Asia-is-lending...isks-43900.html

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post Mar 18 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Mar 18 2013, 04:50 PM)
impressive! and lots of regrets.................

this 2 fellas just wouldnt give up!! come onlah sometime u win sometime u lose if u miss the opportunity to buy then just be happy for those who have bought lah!! better to act like a true gentlemen!

the more we talk the more like sour grape althought i belief u guys are not sweat.gif
Miss the opportunity? I dont think i missed anything. The only thing i regret was not starting my property investment before 2009. No other regrets to date. 4 good investments.

I think its rather childish to be talking about jealousy, sour grapes, etc. Im sure we're all way matured than all this rite? So lets keep the discussions mature shall we? I note Happyman as gone silent.
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:30 PM

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Thread gone quiet?
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post Mar 26 2013, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Mar 25 2013, 11:55 PM)
Busy signing snp lah brows.gif
What happened to Happyman? Did he buy any of the Phase 1 units since his price offer was good? Seems to have gone quiet since then. hmm.gif
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post Aug 13 2013, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(winner takes all @ Aug 13 2013, 09:34 AM)
awaiting the launch and announcement of pricing for phase 3 with bated breath.
does anybody know if phase 3 will be any different from ph1 & 2 in terms of sizes and finishes ?
the way prices have gone up really baffles me. at the rate things are going, will it transact at RM1700psf in the secondary market when phase 1 VP in end 2016?
possible ? just sounds too good to be true unless there is a wave of foreign interest. or is the market just over reacting to the hype ? If this is real all malaysians should just do nothing but invest in real estate ?? laugh.gif
Dijaya can launch at whatever price and Malaysians will still buy. Its all part and parcel of creating a hype using the previous launches and capitalising on the herd mentality. The problem with Malaysians is that they dont realise the difference between paper gain and actual valued pricing. I can claim a paper gain of 50% based on new launch prices, but will that materialise into an actual sale with the same margins in 3-4 years? Now thats a different story altogether.

In the end, its the developers who make money at the expense of the investors while investors with limited holding power blindly purchase simply because others are buying. Hence the term 'herd mentality'.

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