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post Nov 10 2021, 09:01 PM

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IREIT Global: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/IREIT%203Q20...t&FileID=690214
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post Nov 11 2021, 07:42 AM

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post Nov 11 2021, 05:10 PM

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BHG Retail REIT: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/3Q%202021%20...t&FileID=690324
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post Nov 11 2021, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 11 2021, 05:59 PM)
There is also no mention of funds one remitted outside to be accorded capital exemption. So,.. ALL funds being TT'ed back in will be counted as 'foreign-sourced income'. Capital gains will be counted as 'foreign-sourced income' too.

Any opinions,.. all bros ?
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This? Capital gain tax... ranting.gif

Still need to wait for 2nd reading for finance bill right? The details are not out officially but KPMG somehow knows so many stuffs already. Kind of wonder whether they have insider news?

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post Nov 12 2021, 07:31 AM

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post Nov 12 2021, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Nov 12 2021, 10:39 AM)
https://www.pwc.com/my/en/assets/publicatio...-2022-Part2.pdf

Similar findings from the finance bill 2021, with a little bit more clarity, this time from PWC, check out Page 6
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So only income stuffs are taxed, not capital gains. Also mentioned about forex issue. Not sure if loses on forex (if any) can be used to claim against the tax.
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2021 SGX REITs GIFT report and ranking data has been published: https://governanceforstakeholders.com/wp-co...usts-2021-1.pdf
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post Nov 12 2021, 12:54 PM

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New REIT from Daiwa House later this year.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...-listing-on-sgx

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...t-ipo-in-a-year

You can download the IPO prospectus from MAS OPERA public portal. https://eservices.mas.gov.sg/opera/Public/C...de31fe6b6840689

*I like the long WALE and yield, but large proportion of leasehold land can be quite a concern, leverage expect to be low around 30ish % after a few tax matters are sort out, ICR around 9.3 to 10.3.

"Hock Lock Siew" BT article for your reading:

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Companies & Markets
HOCK LOCK SIEW; Look beyond reported rates to get true picture of rental market for CBD offices
Kalpana Rashiwala
Kalpana Rashiwala , Look beyond reported rates to get true picture of rental market for CBD offices
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11 November 2021
Business Times Singapore
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© 2021 SPH Media Limited
DEMAND trends for office property in the central business district (CBD) are shifting, with implications for property groups and real estate investment trusts (Reits) with high exposure to the Singapore office market. Investors should keep their eyes peeled for signs of just how sustainable CBD office rents are.

Keppel Reit, a proxy for the sector, last month said that its average signing rent for Singapore office leases concluded in the first nine months of 2021 was S$10.49 per square foot (psf) per month.

This was down 2.2 per cent from the S$10.73 psf per month for first-half 2021, "which implies to us Q3 FY21 average rent declined 4.6 per cent quarter on quarter (qoq) to S$10.31 psf, compared to spot rental increase of 1.4 per cent", said Citi analyst Brandon Lee in a report dated Oct 25.

At CapitaLand Integrated Commercial Trust (CICT), the occupancy rate of its Singapore office portfolio slipped to 91.7 per cent as at end-September 2021, from 92.4 per cent as at end-June 2021, due to CapitaGreen and Asia Square Tower 2. "Office reversions were broadly negative and resulted in average portfolio rent decline of 1.8 per cent qoq to S$10.07 psf per month," said Lee in a report on Oct 24.

The Urban Redevelopment Authority's (URA) office rental index for Singapore's central region posted a surprising 3.5 per cent qoq drop in the third quarter of 2021, after gaining 1.3 per cent in the second quarter of 2021.

Flight-to-quality

Property consultants swiftly attributed the decline to rental weakness at older, poorer-quality office buildings caused by some tenants downsizing or relocating to newer offices with superior specs in better locations.

The resulting two-tier office market is reflected in URA data showing that Category 1 office buildings - the better-quality properties in the city area - posted the second consecutive qoq increase in the psf monthly median rental, the consultants noted. On the other hand, the monthly median rental fell in Q3 for the remaining office space in Singapore - or Category 2.

But some industry insiders told The Business Times that besides the flight-to-quality, there is another reason for the disparity.

Hidden story

Some of the Category 2 building owners lack financial power to pay for tenants' fit-out expenses or grant them extended rent-free periods. These landlords are more likely to agree to a lower rental rate to support occupancy rates in their properties.

On the other hand, the choice buildings in Category 1 are typically held by the more deep-pocketed landlords with the wherewithal to offer attractive inducements to tenants.

URA collects office rental data based on what is stated in rental contracts submitted to the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore for stamp duty payment.

The taxman may not be agreeable to have some of these incentives excluded from the rentals stated in the contract.

"The rental figure that flows through to the URA index may be inflated in such cases. This also helps landlords to protect the high face rent figure in their buildings and gain the upper hand over tenants for future lease negotiations," said a source who acts for major office landlords.

Most property consultants are sanguine about rentals for the CBD Grade A office market, pointing to the short supply pipeline.

They acknowledge the uncertainty about the impact of a hybrid work model on demand for office space. This may result in some space being returned to the market, especially by consumer banks but also other occupiers.

That said, they point to Singapore's overall attraction as a business hub and see tech companies continuing to drive leasing activity.

An office leasing agent said: "Tech companies don't need to be profitable to be able to expand. For most tech companies, their main motivation is to capture market share; so they need more people. Collaboration is the backbone of tech companies, and for that they will want their people to be at the office. This is especially the case for Chinese tech firms."

Indeed, Savills Singapore executive director of research and consultancy Alan Cheong said the proposition for the CBD Grade A office market's recovery in 2022 has rested heavily on more Chinese tech companies expanding here.

Cheong is cautious about the dependence on such companies. "Following the series of wide-ranging crackdowns by the authorities in China, there will be a hiatus in Chinese tech companies' expansion plans here," he said.

He nevertheless believes this gap can be filled by Western tech companies - whether in the public or private equity markets - that are flush with capital and looking to expand.

Acid test

Wherever these tech companies hail from, the acid test will be whether they can generate enough replacement demand for CBD Grade A office space in Singapore - especially if occupiers in many other sectors start giving space up.

As Savills' Cheong put it: "Although tech companies are expanding aggressively here, that may not offset the right-sizing moves by many companies, leading to elevated vacancies in 2022."

Nevertheless, he argued that the "low interest rate environment and the string of leasing enquiries from tech companies will give landlords the confidence to push for higher rents".

Put simply, the inverse relation between vacancy and rental rate may break down. Savills is forecasting up to 2 per cent growth in 2022 for the average gross effective monthly rental value (after taking into account rent-free periods and other incentives) for its CBD Grade A office basket.

For full-year 2021, it is looking at a drop of up to 2 per cent.

JLL has upgraded its full-year 2021 rent growth forecast for its CBD Grade A office basket to 3-4 per cent from its earlier projection of a 2-3 per cent increase made in September. It predicts 25-30 per cent total increase for a 5-year period to end-2025.

If challenging business conditions persist and given widespread adoption of hybrid-work models, companies themselves may not yet be certain about their office space requirements.

Investors should exercise even more caution when evaluating the face value of rental data and projections.

SPH Media Limited


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post Nov 12 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 12 2021, 02:52 PM)
Something to ponder abt, bros,.... IHH Bhd receives a lot of dividends from Parkway Life REIT. So,... when the dividends are sent back to Msia,... kena tax.

But when the divdiends are sent into TOS' CIMB SG acct but not repatriated back to Msia, TOS will not get taxed.

IHH will really be mad,.......
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lol I will reinvest my dividends directly from my IBKR cash balance. Given my age, the opportunity cost of holding cash is very high. I do leave some cash idle for emergency purposes though.

But your example illustrates the unfairness towards resident companies, especially GLCs as they need to "service the nation". I guess private sector companies are more likely to keep the cash overseas and reinvest into their business there, if there are opportunities out there.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 12 2021, 03:19 PM)
Ok to your first para, bro,...

But to your second para,... IHH Msia's shareholders will really be mad because their dividends will be lessened, right ? Then they will think,... shittt,... might as well I open a brokerage account to invest directly in Parkway Life REIT rather than using IHH Bhd Msia as a proxy,....
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Ya that is a good point, but if IHH somehow can "persuade" the GLICs (their shareholders) to keep the cash overseas then maybe this is fine. But I am pretty sure MoF won't be pleased and PNB, EPF need to find other ways of bringing the cash back (Cayman Island? tongue.gif ).

Anyway, IHH don't rely a lot on Parkway LIFE, their healthcare business still depends on health tourism, hospitalizations, surgeries etc.. real estate is just a small portion of their total revenue.

https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/docs.htm?file...2026.08.21a.pdf

And if M'sian investors really want to invest in Parkway LIFE I don't think they will go through IHH. Given the convenience of various brokers, they can just invest directly in Parkway LIFE, or directly via local banks like Kenanga etc.

prophetful So I guess you will be asking your broker to held the dividends received overseas right? (if you don't need it now) Is that possible? If the dividends are always kept overseas and not repatriated back then no need to pay tax. But I don't know if you can "order" your broker to not repatriate the money back into your Malaysian brokerage account. That way you can "delay" your tax payments.
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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Nov 12 2021, 03:39 PM)
Easiest thing to do now (for SG reits investors not using foreign broker + foreign bank account currently) is to SELL all your REITs before 31st Dec, then transfer the money to SG account and invest via foreign broker, and never bring your money back :-)
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That depends on the purpose of your investment though. If it is for retirement then you will need the cash one day (hopefully laws change again later). But as Hansel pointed out, the depreciation of MYR can help offset your tax liability. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Nov 12 2021, 03:46 PM)
If u have a SG account, u should have a Debit card, right ? There you go.... (no need to bring money back :-))
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 12 2021, 03:47 PM)
No, the GLICs can't keep their cash overseas,... gov't depends on their cash very much,... especially Petronas'....what can be done is the Minister of Finance has rights to continue giving FSIE to any entity he deems so.

I haven't checked into IHH Bhd's shareholders and PLife REIT,... but using local brokers to receive foreign dividends are expensive.
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Ya true. Can only hope for MoF exemptions. Your friend prophetful is using local broker (I think Kenanga) to collect dividends, am I right prophetful? Mind to share your experience on "cost of handling dividends"?

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2021, 06:24 PM)
Yeah. It's cheaper to just transfer.
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I don't think your 1M is fully invested in SREITs, so his calculations exaggerates the amount a bit. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2021, 07:50 PM)
Why not?
Rm1 mil is only SGD330K.
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Anyway, salute salute. notworthy.gif My generation will be very difficult to accumulate wealth like yours.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 12 2021, 09:08 PM)
I have been investing in SREITs since 2009. Since SGD was MYR2.3.  biggrin.gif
Just demonstrates what bro Hansel has been saying.
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3.08/2.3 = 34% HPR or 2.46% CAGR. smile.gif

Indeed MYR has not been performing. Glad to join you guys since last year.
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CICT divests its interest in One George Street.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Annc_Sale_On...t&FileID=690742
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post Nov 13 2021, 10:09 AM

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Looking at the PwC report posted by Victor earlier: https://www.pwc.com/my/en/assets/publicatio...-2022-Part2.pdf

The first 6 months next year if I bring money in, no matter the amount I will have to pay 3% tax, from 1st of July onwards, I am taxed based on the typical resident individual tax rate (0 to 30%) after income tax relief.

So my relief is (based on YA 2020): 9000 individual, education fee 7000, EPF 1667 (i-Saraan) = 17667. On top of that, first 5000 ringgit of chargeable income tax rate is 0% https://www.hasil.gov.my/bt_goindex.php?bt_...5000&bt_sequ=11

So I can bring back 22667 a year and not get taxed, that is almost 2000 ringgit a month without taxed.

That means I should being my money back after July next year rather than the beginning of the year? (Assuming I am a tax resident here.)

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post Nov 15 2021, 06:29 PM

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Ascendas REIT's 1 Science Park Drive to be redeveloped with Capitaland:

https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...61633252e1d04d8
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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Nov 17 2021, 01:21 PM)
hi all - try to invest in some medical reits from singapore, is raffles medical group a good one for long term? not really familiar with this company. thanks!
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Hi firstly, Raffles Medical is NOT a REITs/business trust. It is a healthcare company like IHH or UnitedHealth (in US).

These are REITs: https://www.sgx.com/securities/securities-prices?code=reits

And these are business trusts: https://www.sgx.com/securities/securities-p...=businesstrusts

Raffles Medical is popular among SG local retail investors, but not well-known globally or outside the retail circles. It is not a liquid counter either.

You can learn more about the company in their IR webpage: https://www.rafflesmedicalgroup.com/investor-relations/

Oh, and happy birthday. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 17 2021, 11:38 AM)
Many and most countries already signed OECD AEOI (Automatic Exchange of Information), that banks and financial institutions need to comply the CRS that overseas account holders info will be send to relevant country tax authorities every year.
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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Nov 17 2021, 11:39 AM)
So means cannot escape LHDN eyes if u have a SG account with regular dividend payout to that account?
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I am not worried that they know, but I am more concerned if they will tax those dividends even if we do not bring them back from overseas.

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