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Ramjade
post Jun 4 2017, 10:41 PM

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ConquerorX also, keep in mind that dividend may rise or fall or remain the same depending on how much rental the reit can collect. That's why must see reit with increasing dividend (Dividend per share) over time.
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post Jun 5 2017, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 5 2017, 09:02 PM)
i interested in the US one.. but hv to calculate carefully the entry cost.
brokerage.. collection of dividend.. all got cost.
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Plenty of cheap US brokerage. US got estate tax whistling.gif SOme starting from US4.95/trade.

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post Jun 6 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 6 2017, 09:00 AM)
Nice. Funding for the acquisitions will be through borrowings entirely or a combination of borrowings and equity.
Which means rights issue coming. Come on baby. Let the price will drop.drool.gif
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post Jun 6 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 6 2017, 10:15 AM)
Thank you bro Hansel

I read some examples, if it is been offered at 1:1 then we will be able to buy 100% of our holding at 50%. How do we justify if we buy or not? How do we know the TERP?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 6 2017, 10:24 AM)
Bro,... yes, a very good question here,....What happens then is from now, you will need to familiarise yourself with this ctr,... if the Rights Issues is really thrown out later,... we will be ready to READ the prospectus of the RI. The prospectus of the RI will detail out everything, incl the TERP calculation inside. Without a good background knowledge of the ctr/offeror, you will not be able to decide what is the best course of action to take.

I went through my first Rights Issue with First REIT many years ago,... smile.gif  and learnt the ropes from there.
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Another way not to pening yourself is sell now. Buy again when they officially ask for rights abd suspend trading.

That time price will still be low.

Btw, hansel, since we are using DBS, how to subscribe for rights? AFAIK, DBS will auto sell our rights.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 6 2017, 10:32 AM)
Yes, bros,... the price might not drop,... I have seen this before,... and secondly,... they might not issue Rights,... if you selloff,.... then it's a big mistake.
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Really? I have thought everytime reits have right issue, the price will drop.

elea88 you have FLT? If yes, is it with DBS or MKE?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 6 2017, 11:46 AM)
with DBS
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So just going to buy after FLT resume trading? (assuming going to do rights issue)
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 6 2017, 11:53 AM)
if its really rights issue.. then i will sell.
and buy back at lower price later

coz with DBS cannot participate in the RIGHTS ISSUE.
u go analyse the recent ASCOTT RIGHTS ISSUE.
Price when announce.
price after announce.
Price cum rights
price ex rights

and price after all all the shares in.... the Price actually go back to price when annonce.
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But by the time announced rights issue, price sure drop what. If you sell off that time sure rugi right?

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post Jun 6 2017, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 6 2017, 12:06 PM)
when annonce price will up. coz its CUM RIGHTS.
price will drop ex rights.


but then again. is also DD & SS.. depending market people in favour of the rights or not.
not fixed rules.. just monitor closely.
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If that's the case then buy on ex date? Sorry for asking. Really noob when come to rights. If really rights, this is my first time.
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post Jun 7 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 7 2017, 11:16 AM)
i might dispose.. these few days
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Reason?
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post Jun 7 2017, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 7 2017, 11:47 AM)
MY MOTTO is... simple..

a favourite ‘buy’ pick among brokers

means its time to sell.

Do not forget the game is still DEMAND and SUPPLY.

But if keeping long term best is do nothing and just keep.

But my personal reasons.. i want slowly reduce my DBS portfolio to put in MKE.
I lazy to press the SECURE DEVICE thing...and I can only buy sell when sitting in front of office desktop
because of this DEVICE.

I am also having huge FUND idling too... but i do not want to rush..
as SREITS are really super high. cannot find safe 7% ....
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I am not doing anything. If sell later scared cannot buy back at lower price cry.gif
True. If broker issue a buy call, one should sell.
Elea, I think after Fed hike, maybe we can see selldown of reits. Also, UK election + ex FBI director testimony in congress may present some shopping time thumbup.gif

QUOTE(terrysoh @ Jun 7 2017, 11:51 AM)
elea, are you a fund manager or you're managing your own private wealth? just wondering

my next target is AIMS, if it showed sign of weakness i would go in, what do u think?
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If broker issue a buy call, one should sell. If broker issue hold or sell, you buy. Aims also all waiting. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 7 2017, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 7 2017, 03:20 PM)
Last Ramjade say need buy some insurance product or something..
let me go check out later.
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No charges for dividend or maintenance fee. Just pay brokerage fees. That's what make it interesting as a broker for foreign shares. But the bad thing is high forex spread. One alternative, buy using DBS and transfer into Standard Chartered. Transfer in is free. They absorb all charges. thumbup.gif

If you poor kid like me, yeah la. Need to buy insurance/have mortgage/buy SGD30k worth of unit trust with them. No money no talk sad.gif mega_shok.gif

QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 03:22 PM)
if you bring $$$$, I m sure they will take you in.

interested, email me.. I try to slow talk to the Relationship Manager.
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Money talks. cool2.gif Walk in and say you want to apply priority banking, they let you in. Sure no problem.

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post Jun 7 2017, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 7 2017, 04:23 PM)
Yeap. i hv just finish talking with Std Chart Relationship mgr.

transfer in shares.. cash.. to the value of SGD200K.

can even open the account from malaysia.

But then huge cash reserves sitting there not earning..!!?
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If your stocks worth SGD200k including foreign shares, you can transfer in. It's counted as SGD200k. No need SGD200k cash. Later during bear market, just downgrade to normal member should your value drop. They cannot kick you out rclxms.gif

That's why I said I want to work on getting SGD200k worth first before going for australia stocks etc.

This is one priority banking with incentive. Others tak da. Useless (except maybe better forex rates). If you can get priority banking for this, go ahead.

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post Jun 7 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 7 2017, 05:24 PM)
If you have SC premier in Malaysia, does it entitle you to have it in Singapore?

200k RM easier to aim le tongue.gif
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It's no longer RM200k. The new limit is RM250k. No cannot. SCB malaysia told me must be priority with MY and SCB SG. (if you are priority in Malaysia, you are not priority in SG) But I think if you are priority with SCB SG, you are automatic priority with SCB Malaysia.

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post Jun 7 2017, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 7 2017, 07:14 PM)
No idea about starhub.

Cmt... watch closely... this one like all retail reits wont fly but can wait a bit if wanna sell.

I will surely yell when i sell rest of what i have.  smile.gif
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I think when it approaches ex date again, the price will rise. Need to recycle funds for Netlink IPO and upcoming reit IPO.

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post Jun 7 2017, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 08:57 PM)
high forex spread for what ? can elaborate abit .

why buying using dbs no forex spread ?
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Eg.
You buy AU stocks. You use SGD to buy. If you were to buy using DBS, you use less SGD to buy AU stocks.

Another example. Manulife US reit. You use SGD to buy it from standard chartered. If you use DBS, you would have used less SGD.

After use DBS to buy, then ask Standard chartered to transfer in. No maintenance charges. Then use dividend earned in Standard chartered to buy more.

A trick I learned from a Singaporean.

QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 09:05 PM)
Boss...to obtain Sgd200k = RM600k.


Do you know it takes ard 10 yrs to save RM100k. Maybe you need half of the tenure I guess to save RM100k.

Even if you save RM1000 per month, you need 8 yrs ++ to get RM100k..

RM600K, I guess you got to save 48 yrs ? hahahaha.. unless you have inheritance wealth..

I don't have any gold spoon like you..
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Me also no golden spoon. I just need SGD100k. Then try to compound it 8%. Will get another SGD100k in 9 years

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post Jun 7 2017, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 09:41 PM)
As I can recall, DBSV has a minimum purchase on monthly else there s a charges. that s y I have not sign up for dbsV. Elea, can you confirm on this.

If you were to buy using DBS, you use less SGD to buy AU stocks. => what do you mean by this ? U mean the forex exchange from Sgd to Aud using dbs is better spread compare to Sg Stanchart ? I m not too sure on this. Can elaborate on this point
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That's only for foreign shares. If you buy SG shares, it's kept with CDP. No charges.

After buy just initiate a transfer straight away once it showed up in DBS V. Don't wait for them to charge you. That's how I will play it. You can try comparing the price you need to pay in SGD. Standard Chartered SG is known for their bad forex spread (among Singaporean). If you are investing in SG, you should learn their tricks and trips. Be kiasu like them. biggrin.gif

I am not very sure about SGD/AUD spread by DBS V. But I know their spread for HKD and USD is definitely way way cheaper than Standard Chartered. So if it's already true for USD and HKD, I am sure DBS's AUD will also be lower than Standard Chartered. This is just assumption (AUD is cheaper)


QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 09:43 PM)
Sgd100k = RM300k.

If you set period of 9 years, monthly saving is RM2700. you expected salary in coming job must be at least RM5000.

Well planned you.
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By that time 8 securities sure operational in AU/SG. Commission free trading. Takkan 10 years they cannot get their license. Also, maybe that time brokers in SG will be as cheap as Malaysia's broker.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 7 2017, 09:47 PM)
watch this one. if fed fails to hike, bond prices may rise further. so will reit prices then.
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It's almost 100% expected Feds will rise.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 7 2017, 10:10 PM)
i am not so sure it will happen in the near term.
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From what I read, it's 92-94% expected that Feds will increase interest rate.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 7 2017, 10:46 PM)
when?

The US economy is still un convincing. Jobs are also slowing.
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Read it on Bloomberg. But can't find it anymore. Here's other people who said Feds will hike.
http://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/...B2-665E119D65B4
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/30/busin...rest-rates.html
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post Jun 8 2017, 10:56 AM

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Property now so expensive in KV. How to buy? One house easily RM500k. Young graduates like me no chance to buy.
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post Jun 8 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 8 2017, 12:20 PM)
I bet you are not from Klang Valley...

true...500k maybe you can consider landed property in Rawang area.

landed is expensive nowadays. try go for apartment. cheaper.
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Actually I am from KV. That's how I know house prices so expensive.

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